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Old 12-29-2005, 02:39 PM  
Nilsy42
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I agree!

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Originally Posted by webmeister
Ibill is one of the leading payment processors and I for one am tired of all the negativitiy here. Be happy that you received partial payments.

They are relocating to a smaller office so there will be more money for you in the future. Plus new webmasters are signing up every day when they here the crazy rates they charge at IBill.
Hey Webmasters... I have zero problem in admitting that I am a WebAmateur... but I have both Pure Mathematics and Physics from Oxford and London Univeristy, and a long business career small advertising agencies to huge computer companies as an Art Director.

So sure, programming etc may not be my ace card to play, but understanding logic and biz stuff I know as well as any of you.

You guys are slinging shit like old women.
The Director of the first advertising agency I worked for said it is always better to go after good money, than to spend time and money going after bad money.

Now, it seems fucking clear to me that iBill has been doing business with most of you for some years, without any problem at all.

Now, in order for them to accomodate that kind of initial growth that the Web industry needed inturn for their growth, brings automatically overhead costs in all sorts of directions as they as a company had no choice than to grow.

While things are going good, no problem, and everyones happy.

But times are changing, as you all are VERY well aware of, and are probably the main reason of.
Affiliate programs etc, and off-the-shelf solutions and a zillion other simple to install payment systems, not to mention the SMS payment systems are bound to have profound effects on any and all companies like these!!!

Just as the PC had on every single computer system of the old days!
The company I worked for (Norsk Data AS) had nearly 4 billion kroner JUST sitting in the bank, OUTSIDE of their normal accounts etc, plus a shit load of buildings etc.
They went broke as a result of the PC market!

It "seems" to me, from my clear amateur status, that iBill are in trouble. And have been for some time now.
But it also "seems" that they are in fact trying.

Their seemingly lame answers etc, may not be lame.
They may be genuine, but just seem lame, as they can't deliver.
And there IS a difference between CAN'T and WON'T.

I mean, you have afterall been doing business with them for many years without trouble!
What do you think, that they were just waiting to get big in this business, just to butt-fuck themselves and you lot like this?

I don't think so!

I don't think it's exactly the smart choice for newcomers etc, as they are in trouble.
Seems to me they are trying, but can't get there, and you guys are hurting in the meantime.
Frustration is running high.

As Sting said, there's no such thing as a winnable war.
Personally I think it's a sad situation, that such a big runner seems to be going under, and so many are getting hit in the process.
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