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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
Please do not cloud the discussion with facts. Facts and science have NO PLACE in conspiracy theory.  |
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Steven E. Jones, Professor of research in fusion and solar energy at
Brigham Young University.
BYU website: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
and Utah Deseret Morning News, both in print format and on the web at:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
BREAKING UPDATE: Professor Jones? updated work can now be found at
Scholars for 9/11Truth, http://www.st911.org comprized of Jim Fetzer, University
of Minnesota Duluth distinguished McKnight professor of philosophy, and up of 50
academicians and others.
They include Robert M. Bowman, former director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space
defense program, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the
Department of Labor in President George W. Bush's first term.
The group's charges include:
? Members of the Bush administration knew in advance that the 9/11 attacks would happen but did
nothing to stop them.
? No Air Force or Air National Guard jets were sent to "scramble" the hijacked planes, which were
clearly deviating from their flight plans, although jet fighters had been deployed for scramblings 67 times
in the year prior to 9/11. The procedure for issuing orders for scrambling was changed in June 2001,
requiring that approval could only come from the Secretary of Defense, but Donald Rumsfeld was not
alerted soon enough on 9/11, according to Scholars group.
? The video of Osama bin Laden found by American troops in Afghanistan in December 2001, in
which bin Laden says he orchestrated the attacks, is not bin Laden. The Scholars for 9/11 Truth
compared the video with a photo of the "real" bin Laden and argue that there are discrepancies in the
ratio of nose-length to nose-width, as well as distance from tip-of-nose to ear lobe.
? Molten metal was found in the subbasements of WTC sites weeks after 9/11; the melting point of
structural steel is 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit and the temperature of jet fuel does not exceed 1,800
degrees. Molten metal was also found in the building known as WTC7, although no plane had struck it.
Jones's paper also includes a photo of a slag of the metal being extracted from ground zero. The slag,
Jones argues, could not be aluminum from the planes because in photographs the metal was salmon-toyellow-
hot temperature (approximately 1,550 to 1,900 degrees F) "well above the melting temperatures
of lead and aluminum," which would be a liquid at that temperature.
? Building WTC7 collapsed in 6.6 seconds, which means, Jones says, that the steel and concrete
support had to be simply knocked out of the way. "Explosive demolitions are like that," he said. "It doesn't
fit the model of the fire-induced pancake collapse."
? No steel-frame, high-rise buildings have ever before or since been brought down due to fires.
Temperatures due to fire don't get hot enough for buildings to collapse, he says.
? Jones points to a recent article in the journal New Civil Engineering that says WTC disaster
investigators at NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology) "are refusing to show
computer visualizations of the collapse of the Twin Towers despite calls from leading structural and fire
engineers."
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WHO: Robert M. Bowman PhD., Lt. Col., USAF (Ret.) head of advanced space
programs for the Department of Defense [DOD], Combat Veteran, Rocket
Scientist, Businessman, College Professor, Fighter Pilot, Executive in both
government and industry, family man (seven children, twenty-one grandchildren),
B ishop, and Peace Activist
WHERE: Posted on his personal Website:
http://www.rmbowman.com/ssn/Secrecy.htm
WHAT: ?Many people are convinced that George W. Bush knew what was going to happen and
purposely allowed it to happen so he and his neo-conservative buddies could have the ?new Pearl
Harbor? they needed to justify their wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. Others go further. They are
absolutely sure Cheney and company actually planned and carried out the attack. What is so disturbing
is that their arguments are quite convincing. If an enormous cloud of suspicion is not to be permanently
over the head of our government, the Bush Administration must ?come clean,? releasing information thus
far withheld from the American people. Why did John Ashcroft and top Pentagon officials cancel plans to
fly commercial airlines the morning of 9/11? If they knew what was about to happen, why wasn?t it
stopped? Who made all the millions of dollars selling short United and American Airlines [stock] just
before 9/11? Why weren?t the hijacked airliners intercepted by jet fighters and shot down before they
could fly into the WTC and Pentagon? What did the air traffic controllers say, and to whom? Why did the
FBI impound the tapes of those conversations? Why has the public never been told what was on them?
Why weren?t the congressional investigators told? If it was just a matter of incompetence or somebody
not doing their job, why hasn?t anyone been fired or reprimanded??
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NO SCRAMBLED MILITARY JET INTERCEPTORS:
1. NO SCRAMBLED MILITARY JET INTERCEPTORS:
From the first official notification of a hijacking until the last
hijacked plane crashed, one hour and forty-six minutes elapsed.
During that time no serious attempts to scramble fighters to
intercept the known four hijacked airliners were made.
Prior to 9-11-2001, it was standard operating procedure to
scramble or redirect already airborne military fighters to assist air
traffic control when an aircraft, even small civilian aircraft, is off
it?s flight plan, and non-responsive radio contact. At that time, the
average number of military sorties scrambled to intercept various
airplanes reported to be off course was between 90 and 100
annually, yet on September 11th, four hijacked passenger
airliners were flying in the most restricted and protected airspace
in the world, and there were NO INTERCEPTIONS.
2. NO STEEL BUILDINGS HAVE EVER COLLAPSED FROM FIRE:
In the over one hundred year history of steel high-rises and skyscrapers there has never been a single one, which has collapsed due to fire. On September 11, 2001 there were three such structures, which fell, World Trade Center Buildings Numbers One, Two and Seven. Since that time, there have been no others.
3. FIRES WERE ALMOST SELF-EXTINGUISHED:
The smoke billowing from the towers deteriorated into a slow thick black pall, indicating an oxygenstarved fire. Smoke of this color and consistency is a product of a fire that is being deprived of an essential component, and consequently must be a relatively ?cool? fire.
4. NO EVIDENCE OF HIGH TEMPERATURE STEEL-MELTING INFERNO:
People, soon to be victims of the collapse, were seen standing at the jagged holes in the towers, waving for help. How could they stand there if an inferno capable of melting steel was raging behind them?
Woman standing in entry hole Man standing next to entry hole
5. ALL FOUR AIRLINERS CARRIED MUCH LESS JET FUEL THAN REPORTED:
All reports stated the hijacked airliners as starting out with a full load of fuel (23,980 US Gallons max capacity, max range 6,600 nautical miles). The reality is they carried only enough fuel to reach their scheduled destination, with an additional nominal amount for safety. Fuel is extremely heavy, and
needless added weight results in added expense. Airliners are never ?over-fueled? beyond the trip requirements. This fact further compromises the ?steel melting inferno? theory of the collapses.
6. TOWER COLLAPSE SPEED DEFIED THE LAWS OF PHYSICS:
The towers, as they collapsed, actually fell at the
speed of an object falling with zero resistance, as if
in complete free-fall. It is physically impossible for
any structure falling down upon itself to achieve this
tremendous rate of fall.
Even if the tower fell at two floors per second, an
incredibly fast rate, it would have taken over 50
seconds to complete the fall.
WTC Tower One actually completed its collapse in
10 seconds, with WTC Tower Two in just 9.5
seconds.
7. UNEXPLAINED COLLAPSE OF BUILDING SEVEN:
Building Seven (WTC7) collapsed in exactly the same
?controlled demolition? style as the 2 main Towers, although an
airliner did not strike it. Official reports determined that fire
caused the collapse, as in WTC1 and WTC2. The construction
design of WTC7 was completely different from WTC1 and 2,
and did not rely on trusses from a central core, but was a more
standard construction steel frame covered with brick.
WTC 7 was actually designed and built far stronger than a
typical building of its size because it straddled a pre-existing
electric plant. Yet WTC7 fell in the exact ?controlled demolition?
type collapse as WTC1 and WTC2. The 9-11 Commission?s
Report did not even mention Building Seven at all, and when a
representative of the commission was directly asked why WTC7
was omitted from the massive report, he replied that they did not
think it was significant enough be to included
The photo of Building Seven at the left is the largest visible fire
at any point before the collapse. Does this look like a steelmelting
towering inferno?
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