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Old 02-06-2006, 09:38 PM  
Lev
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Originally Posted by buraque
Being the ignorant you are, i find it only fair to inform you that Turks do not have a history of 83 years. The Ottoman Empire was built in late 1230's. But it is only the precedessor of Turkey. The earliest know Turkish empire is the Hum Empire which goes back to B.C 400.

you say 'your bloody history - your country is built on other people's blood' now that is funny since it's coming from an american. (Indians, Black People, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Japanese people in concentration camps, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again. these are all i can remember now) Even if what you say is true, i think you should be the last one to blame us for building our country on other people's blood.

First of all there were never 1.5 million Armenians living there. And the reason why they were forced to move, and yes killed, was that they back stabbed the Ottoman Empire in the WWI, and began killing Turkish civilians in the area. I mean it's not like we wanted to own the oil in that area and therefore made up a lie that they owned chemical weapons and killed some and put the rest in prisons and tortured them and well, you know how the story goes.

Yes we killed many Greek soldiers during the independance war after they had invaded Anatolia, but i cannot see anything wrong with this. Is there something else about the Greeks i do not konw? And i would also very much appreciate it if you informed me about Bulgarians. And the Kurds, yes, if you are talking about PKK it is officially declared as a terrorist organization by your very own government. Come on, come to your senses, even if what you say is true the most recent issue you talk about took place like 80 years ago, but now as i write, american troops are killing innocent people in Iraq. Again even if what you say is true, at least we have been trying to better ourselves for the past 80 years, what about you? I guess all that slaughtering in Iraq doesn't help much.

anyway, i think the topic we were talking about was the movie showing americans killing innocent people in Iraq. i saw the movie today. it is a movie, fiction, everything shown in the movie doesn't have to be true, but yes, americans are killing innocent people in iraq. and also torturing some.
Ottoman Empire, Mr. Dumbass, consisted of many cultures, not just Turkish. Turks are nothing but a mix of Mongols, Kurds, Persians ect.. Under Ottoman Empire there Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Albanians, Kurds and they were all citizens and were supposed to be protected, but instead were rounded up and killed.

What happend in Iraq, Afghanistan, Hiroshima was during WAR, yes during war horrible things happen. But what your ancestors did to Armenians was not war, but a Genocide! Killing a peacful population, which were loyal to the Ottoma Empire does not consitute a war. In 1914 there were around 2 million in Eastern Anatolia, of which your ancestors massacred 1.5 million. Nobody backstabbed Turks, again Armenians were the most loyal, while Greeks got their independence, Bulgarians aparted, Armenians waited that maybe things will get better as the Young Turks came to power, but what happened, they started to drive Armenians from their homeland and massacre them, thats war to you?

And you are saying all those countries who adopted the Armenian Genocide are all lyers and only Turkey is telling the truth?

International bodies that recognize the Armenian genocide include the European Parliament, the Council of Europe, the European Parliamentary Assembly, and the United Nations Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities, the International Center for Transitional Justice, based on a report prepared for TARC, the Association of Genocide Scholars, the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, the World Council of Churches, the Turkish Human Rights Organization, the League for Human Rights [14], the Parliament of Kurdistan in Exile (an unofficial organisation with no parliamentary powers), and the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal.

The majority of US states recognize the Armenian Genocide, but there is no federal (country-wide) recognition.

The Canadian House of Commons voted to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide. The federal government, in opposing the motion, did not express a position on whether the genocide took place.

And soon the United States will this year, then we will see how your shitty country reacts.
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