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Old 02-08-2006, 01:39 PM  
Lev
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Buddy you basis is hollow.
You keep running back to BS examples that don't represent the whole.
There is no way you can use that to wipe out over 50yrs of "ally" status. If you haven't noticed just about the rest of the world doesn't agree on the invasion of Iraq and that includes many "ally's". So excuse Turkey for making a call there. If you didn't notice 95% of the US operations that have been going on in Turkey are still.

Turk,

Friendship between nations takes years to establish, but one day to destroy. Yes Turkey and America has been allies for 50 years. Then when America really needs Turkey they turn them down. Ok, this is fine, because the parliament voted and a democratic vote always needs to be respected. But why then go a say "if you gives us more money" we will let you use the Northern front? Isn't this a little two-faced trick? The whole point of an "ally" is to support your other ally in every time, especially during war.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78890,00.html

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Its obvious that you're using the whole "OMFG can u believe a Turkish film portrays Americans in a bad light" BS as you're soapbox for the genocide issue.
It's understandable.
Do you think the majority of the free-minded educated Turks don't want some kind fo resoultuion on the issue. They would all like to see some kind of grievances made about it and move on in a better light. Absolutely.
No, my original thread was about the movie, but they all you hypocrites started to talk about the freedom of speech in Turkey and that this movie is a portrayal of this. My, friend selective freedom of speech does not count. If Turkey showed movies about the Armenian Genocide or stopped jailing writers and journalists for insulting Turkey, I would drop the issue:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4688992.stm

So, I still missed it, do you accept or not the Armenian Genocide, because your words sound sincere but they are still not fully understandable? And you know the only solution is for Turkey coming clean with its past and accepting it, period!

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Are you that ignorant that you let a small percentage of the people in power (and fanatics) be your representation of a people as a whole (in which ever time period) ?
I guess you're to blind to see that there are over 70 million Turkish people from just about ever corner of the globe. One of the most diverse cultures around. Sure we are struggling with reform and right wing politics. But we are PROGRESSING. We're not bombing or invading, killing or oppressing other countries. The more that are educated the more the awareness level comes up and the more change occurs. I'm sure you know separating religion from state is not an easy task. But we've managed to become secular and managed to loosen the grip of Islam in government and politics in so many big ways. Come one man.. look at our neighbors. It ain't no cake walk.
You are not oppressing other countries, because you have already done this 91 years ago, no more countries and people to oppress lol. They are now 40,000 Armenians left in Turkey from 2 million.

Anyways, I do not want to drag this any further. Lots of Turks are good people, actually lots of them helped Armenians escape the Genocide by risking their lives. But, they are still lots of ignorant fools that were and are still being brainwashed by your government to believe that there was no Genocide, while most of the world accepted this horrific fact in history. Your country needs to come clean. Have a good day.

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