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hjnet · 02-09-2006, 07:37 AM

Step 6: Preview Thumbnails
I?ve made a separate explanation for these, since I think preview thumbnails are more important than many submitters might know. At first preview thumbs are required for so called ?Thumb TGPs? or ?Thumb MGPs? (madthumbs.com). As you can see almost all of these sites trade traffic with each other, that means that they need a good overall productivity (number of clicks per visitor) on their sites. To get that high productivity these sites would need good thumbs, that means for us submitters, the better we make our preview thumbs, the more likely it?s to get listed at these sites.
So don?t make your preview thumbs with any automated tool, make them by hand, and make them with a program like Photoshop. Adjust brightness, colour balance and sharpness if required.

Step 7: Submission Tools
If you?re absolutely new to gallery submitting, stay away from any tools at the beginning, just start with good old manual work to learn everything. A while ago I?ve built a list for handsubmission at AdultSponsorTest.com, you can use that one to get started, although it?s a bit outdated by now

Just use 3 Recips per gallery and submit away. If possible use an email like webmaster(at)yourdomain.com, you?ll need that later on anyway. When you get used a bit more to the very basics, you can start using a submission tool like AdvancedSubmitter.com, you should only use it as a manual submission tool, that means only to create your mirror galleries with Recips, and to fill the submission forms. When you?re also used to that tool, the next logical step would be to expand your existing submission list with either the TGP Database or the MGP Database I?ve built. In the end you should be able to submit a TGP and a MGP Gallery per day, but at first I?ll have to show you how to get started with them.

Step 8: Different ways to get listed
Before I can continue here I?d have to explain what kind of different TGPs and MGPs are existing.

-At first there are the ones that accept your submission for free and without any limitations. That means you (and ~5000 other submitters) can submit their galleries to them completely for free. After a review the site owner might decide to list your work, or to not list it. Obviously the competition there is rather big, so you?ll not get listed very often, and the number of these sites keeps declining too. So at max. you?ll be able to get ~10-15k uniques per day from these sites. But considering that an average gallery should be able to make a sale every 20-40k uniques it?s a start. That would mean ~$200-250 per month for the beginning. You?ll remain at that stage for the first 1-2 months.

-The second group is more important. Many sites pre-select their submitters, that means you?d have to contact them, or send in an application with your name, nickname, email, some sample galleries and a short story about yourself. If your application was good enough you?ll be granted with a Partner Account for that Site. This Partner Account enables you to submit with less competition, which means that you?ll get listed more often. And those Sites are bigger than the ones from the first group too, so with a reasonable number of Partner Accounts (150+) you?ll get ~70-150k uniques per day. And since your galleries should also convert a bit better meanwhile I?d say that would be ~$2-$4.5k per month.
Since there are more and more sites out there that require a Partner Account I?ve developed PartnerRequester.com a while ago, that tool gives you a ready to go list with ~1200 Sites, so you wouldn?t have to built/maintain that list yourself. You should also consider that it takes a long time to went through this stage, so if you?re completely new to gallery submitting it will take you at least 1 year from now until you?ll reach these traffic levels.

-The third group contains sites that require a payment or a fee to get either a paid partner account, or a paid gallery spot. These sites are obviously the biggest ones, but many of them give a rather small ROI, so you?d have to know what you?re doing. If you?re able to make use of lot?s of these sites you?ll be able to get 300k+ uniques per day, but take care of your overhead costs. Consider that it takes a lot of work to get there, and at least 2 years of experience and networking.

Step 9: Submitting
Now after I?ve explained the different ways to get listed I?d like to explain how to continue with submitting. Meanwhile you should be familiar with AdvancedSubmitter, and if you?re using my DBs you?ll start to submit to the sites from the first group I?ve mentioned. It takes a while until traffic builds up, so just keep submitting, and don?t draw any conclusions until the first month is over. As soon as you have a few samples of your work, signup with PartnerRequester.com and start applying for Partner Accounts. You can also always drop me a message at ICQ#344688791 or tutorial(at)adultsponsortest.com with samples of your work. I?d review them and give you a few hints before you actually start applying. Add your new partner Accounts to your actual submission List ASAP, and after a month or so start to remove those sites from your list that never list you.
Always follow the site rules perfectly, that means correct descriptions, correct preview thumbs, correct Category, etc.

Step 10: Things to think about!
-Always keep in mind that you?re competing with ~5000 other submitters, that means to get good results you?d need to be better than at least 90% of them. So average work isn?t enough, if you want to belong to the top 10% earners, you?d have to deliver top 10% quality.

-Try to do some networking on the boards, many site owners only give away partner accounts on WM Boards, so don?t be shy.

-Never get lazy, the harder it is to get listed at a specific site, the harder it is for others too, which means that you have better chances to get listed if you comply with the sites requirements.

-Don?t get mad about a specific site or webmaster, it?ll happen quite often that you?ll have to bend over. Get over it and see it as a business expense.

Finally I hope my little Tutorial is helpful, if anybody wants to ask me some questions, hit me up on ICQ 344688791 or tutorials(at)adultsponsortest.com. Or just reply in this thread.

I?ve also put up the same Tutorial at http://www.partnerrequester.com/gallery_submitting_tutorial.htm if somebody wants to bookmark it.

02-09-2006, 07:37 AM
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Step 6: Preview Thumbnails I?ve made a separate explanation for these, since I think preview thumbnails are more important than many submitters might know. At first preview thumbs are required for so called ?Thumb TGPs? or ?Thumb MGPs? (madthumbs.com). As you can see almost all of these sites trade traffic with each other, that means that they need a good overall productivity (number of clicks per visitor) on their sites. To get that high productivity these sites would need good thumbs, that means for us submitters, the better we make our preview thumbs, the more likely it?s to get listed at these sites. So don?t make your preview thumbs with any automated tool, make them by hand, and make them with a program like Photoshop. Adjust brightness, colour balance and sharpness if required. Step 7: Submission Tools If you?re absolutely new to gallery submitting, stay away from any tools at the beginning, just start with good old manual work to learn everything. A while ago I?ve built a list for handsubmission at AdultSponsorTest.com, you can use that one to get started, although it?s a bit outdated by now Just use 3 Recips per gallery and submit away. If possible use an email like webmaster(at)yourdomain.com, you?ll need that later on anyway. When you get used a bit more to the very basics, you can start using a submission tool like AdvancedSubmitter.com, you should only use it as a manual submission tool, that means only to create your mirror galleries with Recips, and to fill the submission forms. When you?re also used to that tool, the next logical step would be to expand your existing submission list with either the TGP Database or the MGP Database I?ve built. In the end you should be able to submit a TGP and a MGP Gallery per day, but at first I?ll have to show you how to get started with them. Step 8: Different ways to get listed Before I can continue here I?d have to explain what kind of different TGPs and MGPs are existing. -At first there are the ones that accept your submission for free and without any limitations. That means you (and ~5000 other submitters) can submit their galleries to them completely for free. After a review the site owner might decide to list your work, or to not list it. Obviously the competition there is rather big, so you?ll not get listed very often, and the number of these sites keeps declining too. So at max. you?ll be able to get ~10-15k uniques per day from these sites. But considering that an average gallery should be able to make a sale every 20-40k uniques it?s a start. That would mean ~$200-250 per month for the beginning. You?ll remain at that stage for the first 1-2 months. -The second group is more important. Many sites pre-select their submitters, that means you?d have to contact them, or send in an application with your name, nickname, email, some sample galleries and a short story about yourself. If your application was good enough you?ll be granted with a Partner Account for that Site. This Partner Account enables you to submit with less competition, which means that you?ll get listed more often. And those Sites are bigger than the ones from the first group too, so with a reasonable number of Partner Accounts (150+) you?ll get ~70-150k uniques per day. And since your galleries should also convert a bit better meanwhile I?d say that would be ~$2-$4.5k per month. Since there are more and more sites out there that require a Partner Account I?ve developed PartnerRequester.com a while ago, that tool gives you a ready to go list with ~1200 Sites, so you wouldn?t have to built/maintain that list yourself. You should also consider that it takes a long time to went through this stage, so if you?re completely new to gallery submitting it will take you at least 1 year from now until you?ll reach these traffic levels. -The third group contains sites that require a payment or a fee to get either a paid partner account, or a paid gallery spot. These sites are obviously the biggest ones, but many of them give a rather small ROI, so you?d have to know what you?re doing. If you?re able to make use of lot?s of these sites you?ll be able to get 300k+ uniques per day, but take care of your overhead costs. Consider that it takes a lot of work to get there, and at least 2 years of experience and networking. Step 9: Submitting Now after I?ve explained the different ways to get listed I?d like to explain how to continue with submitting. Meanwhile you should be familiar with AdvancedSubmitter, and if you?re using my DBs you?ll start to submit to the sites from the first group I?ve mentioned. It takes a while until traffic builds up, so just keep submitting, and don?t draw any conclusions until the first month is over. As soon as you have a few samples of your work, signup with PartnerRequester.com and start applying for Partner Accounts. You can also always drop me a message at ICQ#344688791 or tutorial(at)adultsponsortest.com with samples of your work. I?d review them and give you a few hints before you actually start applying. Add your new partner Accounts to your actual submission List ASAP, and after a month or so start to remove those sites from your list that never list you. Always follow the site rules perfectly, that means correct descriptions, correct preview thumbs, correct Category, etc. Step 10: Things to think about! -Always keep in mind that you?re competing with ~5000 other submitters, that means to get good results you?d need to be better than at least 90% of them. So average work isn?t enough, if you want to belong to the top 10% earners, you?d have to deliver top 10% quality. -Try to do some networking on the boards, many site owners only give away partner accounts on WM Boards, so don?t be shy. -Never get lazy, the harder it is to get listed at a specific site, the harder it is for others too, which means that you have better chances to get listed if you comply with the sites requirements. -Don?t get mad about a specific site or webmaster, it?ll happen quite often that you?ll have to bend over. Get over it and see it as a business expense. Finally I hope my little Tutorial is helpful, if anybody wants to ask me some questions, hit me up on ICQ 344688791 or tutorials(at)adultsponsortest.com. Or just reply in this thread. I?ve also put up the same Tutorial at http://www.partnerrequester.com/gallery_submitting_tutorial.htm if somebody wants to bookmark it.