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Originally Posted by crockett
No I happen to hold a few very choice rankings and I've had them for a long time. I've been knocked off the top a time or two, but I always come back. Why? My sites are on target to the related search teams. I don't spam shit and it works well for me.
It might take a little time, but I know I will never be banned for doing shady BS. Don't think just because some of us do things legit, means we rank low.
Trust me I've thought about wasting a few domains and doing some black hat for the hell of it. Who knows I might try it.. However don't think the only way to get to the top is to be black hat.
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that wasnt my point at all. I was just questioning the validity of the term " legit" . Optimizing your page for google is un-legit period.. in google's eyes , anything you do to increase your rank , and you and i both know there arent very many sites ( almost ZERO ) including google itself that doesnt do things primarily to increase rank.. Its a double edged sword.. If you create pages and never once did anything to increase your rank , then i commend you for being one of the very few that can make a success using this method..
but take the devils advocate approach , when your site didnt rank better it was because the other site ranked higher, nothing less nothing more.. your rank has nothing to do with your ethics.. , sure there are ways to increase your se rank by doing unethical things , i'm not questioning that fact , im saying "black hat seo " and unethical are 2 seperate things