Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

personally i don't see any difference in black hat seo's and spammers. you are spamming search engines. if google didn't spider sites automatically you know damn well you'd be submitting to them the old fashioned way.

black hats make things totally unfair, they force everyone else to use black hat methods if we want to surpass them in the rankings and just keep making the se's make things harder and harder to get good listing because the black hats keep them changing the rules. you can blame the black hats for lack of se traffic for those who stick to the methods of content and backlinks.