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Old 09-25-2002, 08:43 AM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally posted by GoLiaT
If there is a solution where war and violence isnt used
its worth trying,
i served as a united nation soldier in the balkan war for 1.5 years
and guys i have seen alot of shit
there is no heroic deaths, there is just deaths...
and i also notice that the people that scream war highest
is almost always those who is NOT being in the frontline...
i seen children (4-5 years old) sitting for hours with the remains
of their mother in there lap and i have seen mothers walking around with just an head or an arm of their babys ...
12 year old girls thats been gangraped by 15-20 soldiers
i dont judge any sides here but its easy to talk when you
havent been involved and seen the shit at close
i dont think that anyone believes that war is a good thing. i dont think anyone supports killing people, watchin people die etc.

there was war in the Balkans for a variety or reasons and it was rooted deeply in enthnic, religious and historical hatreds for each other. When one person is causing that war, wants war, will not be happy if there is no war... such as Miloslovich who caused 4 wars then a better solution would have been if he was removed the second he began the conflicts.

it goes back to the original point i try to make. These horrible people exist because the rest of the world wont fight them. thats how they got as far as they did.... thats how they cause the death and destruction that they do.

to have peace between two parties... you need two parties that want peace

to have compromise between two parties... you need two parties willing to compromise

to negotiate peace between two parties... you need two parties willing to negotiate.

if one party is insisting on war, then swift action needs to be taken. there is no "clean" way to deal with people in power who only want death and destruction. You can only act swiftly and decisively to minimize losses.

however, endless debate, reluctance, hesitation and inaction is not a solution either and does not save lives.

The case against Saddam Hussein has been made repeatedly over the last 11 years. his intentions are pretty clear. he track record is pretty scary. waiting for him to have a change of heart is not proving to be realistic. Relying on the UN Securtiy Council and the International community to inforce its own rules and decisions is not making the lives of Iraqis better or weakening Saddam Hussein either.
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