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Old 10-03-2002, 01:09 PM  
flyingco
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Originally posted by BazookaDog

You've really got a bug up your ass against CCBill don't you?

Great. You founded a 3rd Party Company way before CCBill & got out of the business, but were looking at this a long time ago...and that means what? Nothing. CCBill & all the rest have to actually deal with the situation (as in lay their business on the line), not sit here and speculate on what they should be doing to help you avoid paying a fee.

Glo-Bill has decided to take their chances by trying to work around the issue...More power to 'em. They're going to play the game a little differently, but even they can't say with absolute certainty that their gameplan is going to work. I'm sure they believe it will, & they may be right, but at this point nobody really knows.

But I just don't get it....How can anyone fault a company for not taking their operation offshore so they can save you a few bucks? Further, how can anyone claim the processors are using strong-arm tactics in this? Visa's making the rules.
Firstly, I don't have a thing against CCBill, they grew their company to what they are because of smart marketing and good business sense. I am ONLY using them as an example.

I already sympathize with what they must be going through right now ok? I know it will be a huge issue for them. But let me put it this way, there are a few things that I am stating right now which I feel is necessary to be said.

1. Third Party Processing if what the "Big 5" have stated there is NO way around, is going to lose a LOT of business. In every matter, there is a solution. I chose to believe the Big 5 haven't found a solution to their problems yet. And I strongly urge them to find one.

2. They aren't saving me jack cash ok? It doesn't matter to me if Visa starts their regulations. I don't depend on Visa right now and could give no more then 2 hoots about what they choose to do. But it is what I feel the misinformation that is going about that I am choosing to correct. And you don't have to be up on my ass ok?

3. I empathize with people who are not based in the US that is it. Ok? Is that a ~!@#$%^& crime to state that I feel this way?

You are right that no one is right until things come to past and we look on hindsight. This ruling can change the way a lot of stuff goes on THOUGH.

Here is my issue and LET ME ONCE AGAIN CLARIFY.

You are a US company and you place your trust in an IPSP.
Now, what happens if their fraud scrubbing causes you to have 5% for 6 months? You get black listed and can no longer get any one to process for you then what happens?

This can happen to ANY BIG COMPANY ok? So then what? They default and then? Think about it ok? It has a chain reaction ok?

-Nato
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