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  • NiceGoodMan
    Confirmed User
    • May 2005
    • 76

    #1

    Any really good alternative to CCBill?

    We consider EPOCH and or Verotel.

    We are in EU and have paysites.

    Would you recommend any, EPOCH or Verotel, or any other?

    1000 USD yearly fee of VISA and Mastercard is a bummer. Is there any decent biller to waive it?

    Thank you.
  • f4rsAdd
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2023
    • 31

    #2
    The best overall CCBill alternative is Sage Intacct. Other similar apps like CCBill are NetSuite, PayPal Payments, Salesforce Revenue Cloud, and Chargebee.

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    • cerulean
      Web & App Development
      • Oct 2023
      • 229

      #3
      I like working with Epoch. They have some of the nicest reps out there. I have limited experience with Verotel. I have a good relationship with RocketGate. They have a very good software development kit. My usual recommendation is RocketGate, Epoch, and CCBill, from a programming perspective.

      There are fees with everyone. The reality is that this is high-risk and you're paying for it.
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      • goodoff
        Producer and Actor
        • Mar 2024
        • 38

        #4
        Use CCBill with their free and good affiliate system. This horse is not dead yet)
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        • SpicyM
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2006
          • 4575

          #5
          Originally posted by goodoff
          Use CCBill with their free and good affiliate system. This horse is not dead yet)
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          • czarina
            Webmaster Extraordinaire
            • Jul 2002
            • 10752

            #6
            Whatever you do, STEER AWAY FROM Segpay! Fucking useless company!

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            • sibsoft
              Registered User
              • Oct 2016
              • 5

              #7
              Originally posted by cerulean
              I like working with Epoch. They have some of the nicest reps out there. I have limited experience with Verotel. I have a good relationship with RocketGate. They have a very good software development kit. My usual recommendation is RocketGate, Epoch, and CCBill, from a programming perspective.

              There are fees with everyone. The reality is that this is high-risk and you're paying for it.

              Which one is the best fees-wise?
              I've heard that Mastercard hunt for high-risk sites (adult, file sharing, etc) and shut down POSes involved in such transactions. What a 150k$+ fines. Maybe you heard something about that?
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              • goodoff
                Producer and Actor
                • Mar 2024
                • 38

                #8
                Originally posted by czarina
                Whatever you do, STEER AWAY FROM Segpay! Fucking useless company!
                What's wrong with them? I know a number of sites that have been processing through them for years.
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                • NickBaer
                  Nick Baer
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1393

                  #9
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                  • S Monroe
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2025
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Segpay, Vendo, Verotel, NetBilling
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                    • AdultB2B
                      Adult Site Broker
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1493

                      #11
                      Epoch is very good.
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                      • clipper
                        OG DG
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 171

                        #12
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                        • adultbedtimestoriesxxx
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2025
                          • 12

                          #13
                          I've just started a website and I'm also annoyed to get hit with the annual visa and mastercard fees, especially with no income from the site yet. Does segpay absorb this?

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                          • funny_rick
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2025
                            • 5

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sibsoft
                            Which one is the best fees-wise?
                            I've heard that Mastercard hunt for high-risk sites (adult, file sharing, etc) and shut down POSes involved in such transactions. What a 150k$+ fines. Maybe you heard something about that?
                            What 150k fines? Where did you get that?

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                            • TheLegacy
                              SEO & GEO Connoisseur
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 18078

                              #15
                              Segpay, Vendo, Verotel, NetBilling by S Monroe

                              Ya I would agree with this list
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                              • ThirtyThreeEnt
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2025
                                • 3

                                #16
                                They all require the visa/MasterCard deposits, annually. Epoch will build in a monthly fee after your first full deposit so the following year it paid up by the time it rolls around. I thought I had noted that payment needs has a work around, depending on your exact industry, however they won't get approval for certain adult categories.

                                There are many alternatives to CCbill - Verotel (use a mysafe account though), NET Billings, SegPay, Signature Payments, paymentcloudinc is another good choice.

                                Good luck, I think there is no avoiding the visa/MasterCard annual fees. There are many strict requirements that have changed recently depending on where you are located and how your business is registered etc.
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                                • 2MuchMark
                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 50969

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by czarina
                                  Whatever you do, STEER AWAY FROM Segpay! Fucking useless company!
                                  Segpay is a great company with good services at a more than fair prices. There are also flexible and go out of their way to help new businesses get going. If you are shopping for a processor you owe it to yourself to check them out.

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                                  • JasonCollins
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2013
                                    • 970

                                    #18
                                    If you are operating from the EU, DialXS can often provide better rates than many of the providers in this thread.

                                    Credit card processing starts around 5 percent and scales down with volume and risk profile. With nearly 25 years in the industry, we have built a reputation for helping merchants lower costs while increasing conversion.

                                    The annual Visa and Mastercard scheme fee is an unavoidable part of accepting those cards, but beyond that there are no hidden charges. Payouts are made weekly in EUR, and we also provide a wide selection of local payment methods such as iDEAL, Bancontact, OnlineÜberweisen, and SEPA Direct Debit. These are usually around 2 percent or less and come with much lower chargeback exposure.

                                    As a licensed EU PSP we offer stability, compliance, and reliability. More importantly, we focus on building long term partnerships and providing hands on onboarding and support rather than simply handing over an API.

                                    If keeping fees under control while boosting EU conversions is a priority, feel free to reach out or send me a message and I will be glad to share more details.
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                                    • aladdin52
                                      Registered User
                                      • Oct 2025
                                      • 4

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by goodoff
                                      What's wrong with them? I know a number of sites that have been processing through them for years.
                                      Hot

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                                      • distorto
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2026
                                        • 4

                                        #20
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                                        I’m EU-based (Sweden, sole proprietor) launching a $15/month subscription site (100% digital; no UGC, no live streams). Content is explicit adult BDSM/fetish AI art (fictional adults 18+). CCBill and Segpay declined.

                                        Minimum required categories (must be allowed):

                                        Explicit female nudity incl. genitals

                                        Gags/hoods

                                        Latex/rubber/fetish gear

                                        Dungeon/dark BDSM environments + bondage

                                        If you process similar content from the EU, which biller/processor actually got you approved recently (RocketGate/Epoch/Verotel/NetBilling/Vendo/DialXS/other)? Any EU-specific gotchas (scheme fees, reserves, minimum volume)? If you don’t want to post publicly, DM me the contact.

                                        Thanks!

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                                        • JasonCollins
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2013
                                          • 970

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by distorto
                                          I’m EU-based (Sweden, sole proprietor) launching a $15/month subscription site (100% digital; no UGC, no live streams). Content is explicit adult BDSM/fetish AI art (fictional adults 18+). CCBill and Segpay declined.

                                          Minimum required categories (must be allowed):

                                          Explicit female nudity incl. genitals

                                          Gags/hoods

                                          Latex/rubber/fetish gear

                                          Dungeon/dark BDSM environments + bondage

                                          If you process similar content from the EU, which biller/processor actually got you approved recently (RocketGate/Epoch/Verotel/NetBilling/Vendo/DialXS/other)? Any EU-specific gotchas (scheme fees, reserves, minimum volume)? If you don’t want to post publicly, DM me the contact.

                                          Thanks!
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                                          • kuprum
                                            Affiliate-Programs.Biz
                                            • Oct 2016
                                            • 17914

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by distorto
                                            I’m EU-based (Sweden, sole proprietor) launching a $15/month subscription site (100% digital; no UGC, no live streams). Content is explicit adult BDSM/fetish AI art (fictional adults 18+). CCBill and Segpay declined.

                                            Minimum required categories (must be allowed):

                                            Explicit female nudity incl. genitals

                                            Gags/hoods

                                            Latex/rubber/fetish gear

                                            Dungeon/dark BDSM environments + bondage

                                            If you process similar content from the EU, which biller/processor actually got you approved recently (RocketGate/Epoch/Verotel/NetBilling/Vendo/DialXS/other)? Any EU-specific gotchas (scheme fees, reserves, minimum volume)? If you don’t want to post publicly, DM me the contact.

                                            Thanks!


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                                            • cxcx1
                                              Registered User
                                              • Mar 2026
                                              • 3

                                              #23
                                              Which one is allowed on dating sites?

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