Food control

[kostas]

http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news233.htm
The same fascism is promoted in EU. It's a Stalin's method to control the people by their food. What do you think?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kostas

What do you think?

i think you should actually read the bill and not just the propaganda about it. then return here and state what's so stalin-esque about it.

[CurrentlySober]

i like food

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i think you should actually read the bill and not just the propaganda about it. then return here and state what's so stalin-esque about it.

Do you like Gestapo better?

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Do you like Gestapo better?

If it's made with tomatoes

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Do you like Gestapo better?

i think you should actually read the bill too, then return here and try and engage in a debate without the personal comments.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i think you should actually read the bill too, then return here and try and engage in a debate without the personal comments.

Ok, how about this:

If you grow your own vegetables and sell some of them to your neighbors, you are committing an illegal act.
If you buy raw milk from a local farm, you are committing an illegal act.
If you harvest seeds and sell or give them to your neighbor, you are committing an illegal act.
If your neighbor plants seeds you harvested and sold to him, he is committing an illegal act.

They are forcing people to solely rely on larger corporations for their food... and you don't think there's something wrong with that?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Ok, how about this:

If you grow your own vegetables and sell some of them to your neighbors, you are committing an illegal act.
If you buy raw milk from a local farm, you are committing an illegal act.
If you harvest seeds and sell or give them to your neighbor, you are committing an illegal act.
If your neighbor plants seeds you harvested and sold to him, he is committing an illegal act.

They are forcing people to solely rely on larger corporations for their food... and you don't think there's something wrong with that?

absolutely false. not one single thing you mentioned is in this legislation.

[Amputate Your Head]

welcome to the police state.

[spazlabz]

?The FDA is about to become the SS of food fascism,? Adams predicts. ?This is not an exaggeration. Who would have thought, five years ago, that the TSA would be reaching down your pants and feeling your genitals? Just imagine now what the FDA will do with similar powers over your food and farms. Crudely put, the TSA may be feeling your junk, but the FDA will have us all by the balls.?

I like my paranoia with a side of humor thank you!

[dyna mo]

specific text re: milk

(5) REVIEW- In promulgating the regulations under paragraph (1)(A), the Secretary shall review regulatory hazard analysis and preventive control programs in existence on the date of enactment of the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, including the Grade ?A? Pasteurized Milk Ordinance to ensure that such regulations are consistent, to the extent practicable, with applicable domestic and internationally-recognized standards in existence on such date.

specific text re: vegetables

(f) Traceback and Surveillance Report- The Secretary shall include in the report developed under subsection (a)(1) an analysis of the Food and Drug Administration?s performance in foodborne illness outbreaks during the 5-year period preceding the date of enactment of this Act involving fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities (as defined in section 201(r) (21 U.S.C. 321(r)) and recommendations for enhanced surveillance, outbreak response, and traceability. Such findings and recommendations shall address communication and coordination with the public, industry, and State and local governments, as such communication and coordination relates to outbreak identification and traceback.

(2) CONTENT- The Secretary shall conduct 1 or more pilot projects under paragraph (1) in coordination with the processed food sector and 1 or more such pilot projects in coordination with processors or distributors of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities. The Secretary shall ensure that the pilot projects under paragraph (1) reflect the diversity of the food supply and include at least 3 different types of foods that have been the subject of significant outbreaks during the 5-year period preceding the date of enactment of this Act, and are selected in order to--

(A) develop and demonstrate methods for rapid and effective tracking and tracing of foods in a manner that is practicable for facilities of varying sizes, including small businesses;

(B) develop and demonstrate appropriate technologies, including technologies existing on the date of enactment of this Act, that enhance the tracking and tracing of food; and

(C) inform the promulgation of regulations under subsection (d).

(II) the term ?commingled raw agricultural commodity? shall not include types of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities for which the Secretary has determined that standards promulgated under section 419 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (as added by section 105) would minimize the risk of serious adverse health consequences or death; and


no provisions re: seeds

[MrCain]

It's 1984.

[wehateporn]

Kissinger: "Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people."

In the EU they are trying to bring in CODEX, they claim it is to protect us, but it is really to reduce the average life expectancy so as we will have a more productive population. If these guys really cared about protecting us they wouldn't be banning Vitamin C they would be banning Paracetamol

http://www.natural-health-informatio...mentarius.html

[Cherry7]

Life expectancy is already falling fast due to Fast Food Crap, Factory farming and low wages....