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Old 12-18-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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Online School for Web Design?

Anyone know of any worth paying for?

I have a "friend" who wants to know.

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:10 PM   #2
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:29 PM   #3
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CSS the Definitive Guide by Eric Meyes.

You can learn web design by reading online and messing around with firebug in firefox.

There's more to design than creating and positioning elements. There's a whole branch of colour theory and the like that I have no clue about.

I outsource design because it tends to be cheap.
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:31 PM   #4
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If you need to take a course, there's a 95% chance your "friend" is wasting his time, because he'll never become a competitive designer.

You can't teach either, creativity or ambition.
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:05 PM   #5
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youd find better tutorials online than in any book. a good place to start is envato they have a tuts site for photoshop.

http://psd.tutsplus.com/
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:42 PM   #6
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:49 PM   #7
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:55 PM   #8
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:15 PM   #9
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this is the best out there without taking online courses that colleges offer...

I learned from a "Dummies" book
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:48 PM   #10
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:48 PM   #11
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go to some local community college, will be 10x cheaper and better than any bs online degree...
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:27 PM   #12
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I might try some of the courses offered by this site myself..
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:34 PM   #13
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:13 AM   #14
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Skills can be taught, talent cant. If you dont have a designers eye... then dont bother.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:44 AM   #15
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:33 PM   #17
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But he needs to learn how to use Photoshop, Dreamweaver etc.

Sure you can learn this from a book, but a class will sort of force you to do it, and you also have someone to ask for help when you are stuck.

Everyone is as gifted as AMP with design. Though I don't think he designs anymore.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:45 PM   #18
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I taught myself. never read a book or any theory.

Design is about testing and developing your own style.

Open up photoshop and start to fool around. do that for 10 years.

For CSS i just broke down others peoples code and you read about browser errors as they come along and eventually (2 years) you will have it mastered.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:46 PM   #19
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:34 AM   #22
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I run www.designcourse.com - It's very straight forward and geared only towards the web design process alone (opposed to lynda which covers every software under the sun), and focuses on teaching specific features of the application alone mostly.

My approach is a bit different, mine takes you through the very first step (logo design in illustrator or photoshop) -> the full web design mockup in photoshop -> how to prepare and save the images for html/css -> html coding -> css. First project is a very simple home page, next one is a bit more elaborate and so on.
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if he really wants an online course, check USF, i think tehy're the ones running banners at me nonstop on adsense. They have course sin that sort of shit. Prepare to get soaked on retarded tuition fees though.
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if he really wants an online course, check USF, i think tehy're the ones running banners at me nonstop on adsense. They have course sin that sort of shit. Prepare to get soaked on retarded tuition fees though.
yeah that's the thing. A college course for web design is so unnecessary, unless you have aspirations of working for the man and not becoming a freelance designer; but even then, most employers will still take a guy that has a better portfolio over someone who has a piece of paper with a shitty portfolio.

A few of my own friends got computer science degrees who were interested in web design and they were still quite clueless about the whole process. A lot of colleges/courses teach really outdated shit from old material.

Everything a person needs to learn web design is available online through sites like mine, or even free if that certain individual has enough motivation to sift through all the shitty free resources to find the good ones.
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Might want to take a look at your main page in chrome!!

This doesnt speak to well for a design course.

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Skills can be taught, talent cant. If you dont have a designers eye... then dont bother.
This is so true. I know html/css like the back of my hand but I cant make anything that doesn't look like shit. some things you have to be born with
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Honestly, You need to be an Artist. And you are either good one or not. A school can teach you the tools of the trade. But being creative is all YOU.

JR.
I'm not talking about being creative, or ability to draw etc.

I'm interested in the school that teaches you everything from what FTP/SSH to what a html page means etc.

Everyone here says, just buy a book. But that won't work in this case.
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Might want to take a look at your main page in chrome!!

This doesnt speak to well for a design course.

who uses chrome?
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Everyone here says, just buy a book. But that won't work in this case.
in that case i recommend Lynda.com

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Enough people to support it.
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I'm not talking about being creative, or ability to draw etc.

I'm interested in the school that teaches you everything from what FTP/SSH to what a html page means etc.

Everyone here says, just buy a book. But that won't work in this case.
Then you might consider learning by Reverse Engineering. That's how I've learned over the years. A school would help you get a jump start. But what schools and books teach is pretty far out of date.

Now that I think about it... Learning to Reverse engineer is in my opinion: A Necessary Skill.

When I see something on another site that I want to add to my site... the fastest way for me to do it is to rip the code from that site... strip it down... and use the parts I want. Takes a while to get good at that... but worth it in the long run.

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