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Old 12-19-2010, 11:03 AM   #1
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All internet porn will be blocked to protect children, under UK government plan

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The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, are being called to a meeting next month by Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, and will be asked to change how pornography gets into homes.

Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography - so-called "opting out" - the tap will be turned off at source. Adults will then have to "opt in."K
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full-on censorship is on it's way.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:22 AM   #3
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If this passes, dvd sales will probably go up in UK.
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porn = mental health issue?

First they attack porn sites because they think no one will want to risk his reputation defending those... once the filters are in place it will be trivial to block other things as well.
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and then once someone points out that its impossible to block porn on the internet they will stop trying.

Youtube is pretty big and they dont have the capacity to do that yet on their own servers much less the internet, combine that with the next to impossible task of defining what is porn.
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How? To start making cartoon sites for kids?
Evidently HM Government, otherwise known as The Little Nanny State In The Channel is unfamiliar with the use of proxies.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:29 PM   #14
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This is exactly what the industry needs, for too long now porn has been on tap, the novelty is wearing off and so people don't join sites much anymore. It you make it harder to get it becomes more exciting again, like when people first started getting the Internet at home and they were going wild joining all kinds of sites.

If you take it away you will make people more hungry again, then when they come to feed they will eat like wild animals
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porn = mental health issue?

First they attack porn sites because they think no one will want to risk his reputation defending those... once the filters are in place it will be trivial to block other things as well.
yet the average 12 year old watches hours and hours of murders, decapitations, ect but oh no, only porn affects kids mentally..
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Just what us Aussies need... another liberal democracy to agree with our government's crackpot ideas about filtering the web...
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As if a respectable husband and father is going to call the ISP to "opt in".

The 13 to 18 year old demographic will be the only ones who know how to bypass the blocks using proxies. Their social network at school will tell them all the tricks.

So they're essentially going to limit porn to children-only in the UK.
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yet the average 12 year old watches hours and hours of murders, decapitations, ect but oh no, only porn affects kids mentally..
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:29 PM   #21
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it will not happen.

they anounced this before they broke up for the two weeks holidays.

its so it gets in the news.

its so they can look like they are fighting porn.

next year when they meet the isp's, i am 99.9% sure the isp's will say its not possible to block, as it would cost too much to deal with.

you have to remember too is what will they decide what is and is not porn.

and will they look at every siggle blog going?
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They'll opt in.

In droves.
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If this passes, dvd sales will probably go up in UK.
I was thinking the same thing. I actually made a lot more money (for less work) back when DVD sales were rocking. Would love to see things revert to that again. Wishful thinking, but that would be nice.
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as I said in other threads.... This is just the beginning to the very near end of porn world wide.
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porn = mental health issue?

First they attack porn sites because they think no one will want to risk his reputation defending those... once the filters are in place it will be trivial to block other things as well.
you don't think there's any consequence to come from your 10 year old stumbling across some bdsm needle tit torture scat sex? what you can accidentally click your way into on some porn sites online these days is a long shot from stumbling onto dad's playboy mags...

a little censorship would be good for the online porn biz. the simple fact that porn is so easy to get is why the industry is dying in the first place. supply and demand motherfucker. the demand isn't going anywhere...
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you don't think there's any consequence to come from your 10 year old stumbling across some bdsm needle tit torture scat sex? what you can accidentally click your way into on some porn sites online these days is a long shot from stumbling onto dad's playboy mags...
keeping kids away from 'inappropriate content' is the parents responsibility, not the state's.


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a little censorship would be good for the online porn biz. the simple fact that porn is so easy to get is why the industry is dying in the first place. supply and demand motherfucker. the demand isn't going anywhere...
Let's say the gov blocks access to porn sites unless you optout of the filter. Once you optout, you will be able to access all sites, including the free ones. Censorship will not reduce the amount of free porn out there.
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God damn those Americans. they are.... OOOPS..

Wrong country.

UK Peeps. step up to the plate and complain about that or it will hurt us ALL!
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If it passes it will be a great thing for the porn industry. If they can make it work. No free porn means people will have to buy it.

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This is exactly what the industry needs, for too long now porn has been on tap, the novelty is wearing off and so people don't join sites much anymore. It you make it harder to get it becomes more exciting again, like when people first started getting the Internet at home and they were going wild joining all kinds of sites.

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you don't think there's any consequence to come from your 10 year old stumbling across some bdsm needle tit torture scat sex? what you can accidentally click your way into on some porn sites online these days is a long shot from stumbling onto dad's playboy mags...

a little censorship would be good for the online porn biz. the simple fact that porn is so easy to get is why the industry is dying in the first place. supply and demand motherfucker. the demand isn't going anywhere...
Protecting kids versus protecting ones income? Kids come a poor second. The people talking about a free Internet don't have that view on legal porn Tubes.

I doubt if it will pass, but it's going to one day. The unregulated Internet is going to change.

Would it be a bad thing for the porn industry, if ALL porn was removed from the Internet? No, it would be good. People would have to go back to buying instead of getting it for free.

Would it be the death of men jerking off to images on the Internet? No but traffic to lingerie catalogue sites would grow 1,000 fold.
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They'll opt in.

In droves.
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Well, when you stop and really think about it, a change in the way sites are censored doesn't really sound all that outrageous. Yes, it would SUCK for those of us working in this industry, but I'm open enough to see it from both perspectives. I also think we will see a change in other countries eventually as well, (just maybe not to this magnitude).

People talk about it affecting the "mental health" of a adolescent kid growing up nowadays, and I can't help but somewhat agree. I'm only 28, but when I was growing up it took a lot of work to get my hands on porn. Steal a magazine or videotape from your parents or friend's parents. Internet porn meant looking at playboy type material that took forever to load on my 9600baud modem.

What was available 12-14 years ago was nothing like what's available today. There is rape, face fucking, scat, vomit, spit, domination, fuck you name it, it's out there for anyone to view with just a few clicks. You can argue it's the responsibility of the parents and the use of parental controls should eliminate access.

But, we all know that's bullshit. If it's out there kids are going to find a way to watch it. It was true then when parents hid a box of porn in the basement and it's the same now. If I was a kid growing up in today's world, no parental control or censor would stop me from viewing porn. The generation of kids growing up today are way more tech savvy than their parents.

Millions of terabytes of the sickest porn imaginable is out there, and nearly every household has a DSL or faster connection to it. It's really not that difficult to present a case for change.
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The case is always made. "It won't stop the kids who want to see it."

Well what about the millions of kids that don't?

As for a law stopping people who want to break it not being passed. Folks think about that one for more than two seconds with your knees jerking.

If the criteria for passing a law was, IT HAS TO STOP THOSE WHO WANT TO BREAK IT. There would be no laws.
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This is exactly what the industry needs, for too long now porn has been on tap, the novelty is wearing off and so people don't join sites much anymore. It you make it harder to get it becomes more exciting again, like when people first started getting the Internet at home and they were going wild joining all kinds of sites.

If you take it away you will make people more hungry again, then when they come to feed they will eat like wild animals
You have a point
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It will be interesting to see what people will do when the government takes their porn away from them. One should think they would riot. But they are probably already too dumbed down and controlled to riot and they will say that "one can always opt-in".
Well, let's hope they wake up when the first news stories go round that this high ranking politician opted-in and gets marginalized for it.

Society is truely doomed if this thing passes.
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:20 PM   #47
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porn = mental health issue?
There is no Mental Health Service in the UK.
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:59 PM   #48
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This is exactly what the industry needs, for too long now porn has been on tap, the novelty is wearing off and so people don't join sites much anymore. It you make it harder to get it becomes more exciting again, like when people first started getting the Internet at home and they were going wild joining all kinds of sites.

If you take it away you will make people more hungry again, then when they come to feed they will eat like wild animals
Sorry but porn will be "opt-in" which of course ISPs will gladly CHARGE for. Now if you are paying to "opt-in" for porn why would you pay for a porn site? Wouldn't your attitude be "Hey I already pay for porn"? Even if free many people aren't going to call up their ISP and say "Yes I'm a perv and I would like to see porn on my computer".
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:01 PM   #49
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There was a program about this just now on BBC one and the internet companies have told them it is unlikely they will change to a opt in service
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:03 PM   #50
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There is no Mental Health Service in the UK.
More true than most people know...
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