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Whats the average price of medical insurance in the states?
I'm talking about some family package and full coverage, something what pays for the basic stuff, but also surgeries, etc. Are we talking hundreds or thousands a month?
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Depends on the state first of all and then the coverage so you'd be best served just doing a google search for the area you are interested in.
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believe the scientific answer for this is 'an arm and a leg'
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On average, the US family pays $13,375 for insurance per year. Those are 2009 numbers so it is probably higher now. http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ce-costs_N.htm
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![]() i was just looking at the new rates and on my plan would be around $800/mo for family benefits. you can get crazy with $0 deductibles, better prescription coverage, eye, dental (mine covers basic dental) and life, but that would probably set you back around $1,200 to $1500/mo
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Sounds right to me!
Actually it depends greatly on the following: -State you get coverage in -The genders in your family/group -The ages in your family/group
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NJ HMO 1700.00 for a family of five.
20,400 a year! I love America!
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When I was in the union in the 80's, I didn't pay for anything, I miss that. NO payments, NO deductibles, didn't pay for meds either, was pretty sweet
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When I worked for DJT my health insurance was $3/paycheck. Covered family for health, dental and life insurance.
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a full time job that pays the bills and offers benefits are about as common as white buffalo now in the US, it is putting more and more pressure on the middle class and working poor |
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Thanks, that helps a lot. And I'm interrested mainly in 3 states, NY, FL or CA.
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Med Insurance
With a pre-existing condition, it's almost cheaper to pay for ANY surgery. My only hope is Obamacare stays as law. Otherwise, I'm facing a surgery for more than I've made in my entire life.
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Just looking at some online rates and HMO type of insurance sounds interesting. With no deductibles($500-700 a month for 1 parent and 2 kids). Does it cover all surgeries that need to be done to save a life? If people sign the papers as 100% healthy?
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I'm in florida. Me, wifey, baby = $1200/month PPO $500 Deductable
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You have to go through an underwriting process. Humana, for example, wanted over $5k a month with two months pre-paid for 4 employees (minimum requirement). That's group.
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3 very different states. Florida is the cheapest with the lowest taxes, but pays the poorest.
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Ny is pretty damn expensive for even a 2k high deductible plan
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for a family, good insurance. in the XXXX range for sure. 1200-1500
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It's pretty much the same as when shopping for a yacht. If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it
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I pay around 1k per month for my wife and I.
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To answer your question it could be $100 - $5,000. Need more details.
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Sorry, friends. This is a heartbreaking thread.
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If you have a decent office job, you pay nothing. Your employer usually picks it up.
If you are poor, you go to the emergency room and the hospital is stuck with the bill. If you self employed, you have two options: -regular plan that will cost about $400-600 for you -high deductible plan where you are responsible for the first X,XXX/year of health cost, but everything after that is covered. This sort of plan will cost $150 or so/month.
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Thanks a lot, guys, what about the above question?
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fucking hilarous what you guys pay / month we pay per year in Australia.
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How much you do you pay in income tax ????
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I pay nothing and go to the hospital for check ups once every 2 months. I'm retired and after a lifetime of paying for health it's now free. My cure for cancer was also done on the CZ National Health scheme. IMO we pay too little for medical insurance here and facilities are basic unless you're in grave danger. Like Eva and I were. |
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self insurance FTW
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My wife had eye surgery in 2001 cost about 12k. Insurance picked up about 9 so it was not bad. Now she needs the other eye done. Cost in the US is more than 20k for ambulatory. means she walks in and walks out same day. Instead she is going to Cuba. ( She is from there ). The best Hospital in the country will do it for 2.5k. 3 days in the hospital 7 in a hotel and check ups daily for a total of 10 days care.
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I can't understand for the life of me how a family of 4 is paying 800 dollars a month. I pay 100$ for decent coverage. Even if you had full coverage for your kids and just the regular for your wife I would assume that couldn't be more than 600 (100 per adult 200 per kid.) Just seems like people are getting ripped off.
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Or you can pay for medical care, instead of making insurance company middlemen rich.
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some people are paying more for insurance than the average canadian making 50k/year pays in income taxes total. sad situation. i really hope the care and treatment you get is above and beyond and that the insurance companies don't dare dick you around after paying such insane sums.
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I got it made
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We have insurance through my husbands work, union, via the county/state. For our family of 4 our plan costs (though is 100% covered) about $1300/month. I still have co-pays on things ranging from $5 to $75. I totally understand why most people have no health insurance here.
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My corp pays $1,466/mo for group health and $46/mo for group dental. Covers me, employee, their family. We have a $15 co-pay, no deductibles.
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Well since the public sector has to compensate for the insanely low price fixes the government puts on pay outs for medicare/aid, insurance prices will just continue to go up and up and up.
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If you still can pay that it means you earrn at least 5 times more, if so, why complain? Majority of the world earn this much for a life time.
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Found out some interresting stuff. For a family of 3, tourists, non-US citizens, a $1mil health insurance for 6 months costs only $1600, with no deductibles, insurance covers 90% of the first $5k and 100% of the rest, until $1mil. Thats crazy, its better to stay a non-US citizen to get better threatment than an US citizen? And you can renew this insurance until forever, too.
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I pay $400 a month for mine.
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a reasonable amount but then not a huge amount extra than what many americans on the same wage would pay.
Id take our tax / medical system any day over the nonsense you guys have over there.
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I used to be in a union. Go to the doc in January, pay the visit in full. After that everything was covered 100% for the rest of the year.
Later I worked at a small business. The owner had pooled with a few other small businesses to self insure. I can't remember what big insurance company to actually manage the plan, but their self insured company was registered in the Netherlands Antilles. So every winter, they got a tax deductible trip to the annual meeting. |
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