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Old 01-25-2011, 03:57 PM   #1
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BitTorrent Users Sued for Sharing Paris Hilton?s Sex Tape

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Just when we thought it couldn?t get any worse, the company exploiting the Paris Hilton Sex Tape ?One Night in Paris? has filed lawsuits against 843 alleged BitTorrent users. While it has already made millions of dollars in profit from the dubiously obtained ?motion picture?, the company is demanding compensation for losses allegedly caused by mass copyright infringement on BitTorrent networks.

one night in parisBitTorrent lawsuits have been popping up everywhere in the United States in recent months, especially from companies dealing with adult content. They have embraced this new revenue stream by the dozen.

Through these mass lawsuits the copyright holders are trying to obtain the personal details of BitTorrent users who allegedly shared their material online. Once this information is handed over, they then offer the defendant the oppotunity to settle the case for a few hundred dollars, thereby avoiding a full trial.

In the United States the judicial system is currently being overloaded with new cases, and it has reached a point where it?s virtually impossible to track every new case introduced. However, one case filed recently stands out from the rest, as it concerns one of BitTorrent?s most downloaded videos ever.

The Paris Hilton Sex Tape, officially released in 2003 and currently owned by XPAYS Inc., is now the subject of a new round of lawsuits. The motion picture, as it?s referred to in court documents, is still being shared among thousands of users every week and 843 alleged downloaders have now been sued at the District Court of Central California.

XPAYS claims that they ?spent a substantial amount of time, money and effort to produce, market and distribute? the film, and that their profits are now dwindling due to mass copyright infringement. In addition, they claim that the illegal distribution is a threat to minors, since the illegal copies can be downloaded without age verification.

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Aside from the noble deed of protecting minors, most of the complaint deals with the losses and irreparable harm BitTorrent users have caused the company. This is in line with most other complaints we?ve seen so far. A special section and several attached ?exhibits? further show that XPAYS is the legitimate copyright holder of the sex tape.

In the hope of stopping ?copyright trolls? such as XPAYS, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus brief last week in which it asks an Illinois judge to quash subpoenas issued in pay-up-or-else lawsuits involving alleged illegal file-sharing of pornography.

?Copyright owners have a right to protect their works, but they can?t use shoddy and unfair tactics to do so,? said EFF Intellectual Property Director Corynne McSherry. ?We?re asking the court to protect the rights of each and every defendant, instead of allowing these copyright trolls to game the system.?

Despite the increasing resistance, both from judges and opponents of the lawsuits, we expect that similar cases will continue to be filed for the time being simply because they have the potential to be extremely profitable. XPAYS for one is determined to continue legal action against those sharing the Paris Hilton Sex Tape and says it will keep monitoring BitTorrent networks for further infringements.

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XPAYS claims that they “spent a substantial amount of time, money and effort to produce, market and distribute” the film

What money did they spend producing the film?
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Did EFF coin that phrase "copyright trolls?" lol.

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courts in germany have ruled that only in the first 6 months after a song/movie is launched a financial loss through filesharing can be claimed. after that timeframe all cases are dismissed now. i expect that something like this will at one point also in other countries become the norm.
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It's shocking to read how these mother fuckers feel entitlement to the content for free. Why because it first was released 7 years ago, or because they think the company already made a lot of money??? So there is some limit to how much money someone can make off of something before it should be given away for free?

I wonder what these people do for a living, the ones that actually work. I would love to see how they would feel if they were told that they make too much money and for now on they get paid to work till 1pm and then 1pm - 6pm they were expected to work for free, because they had already made too much money that day.

If you going to steal because you are cheap or don't want to pay then steal, but call a spade a spade. Don't try to kid yourself into believing what you did was ok and play it off like you "should" get it for free and the company suing you is in the wrong. If you want to play with fire then don't get mad when you get burned.

All these content supporters are either outcast, lonely kids looking for a cause, anti-establishment type, or socialist, hippies, and/or broke and can't afford it, liberal "everyone owes me", fuck you mr. rich man types.... all of which could go fuck themselves.
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courts in germany have ruled that only in the first 6 months after a song/movie is launched a financial loss through filesharing can be claimed. after that timeframe all cases are dismissed now. i expect that something like this will at one point also in other countries become the norm.
That is retarded, movies/songs continue to make tons of money and sales beyond the 6 month point. how in the fuck did they come up with 6 months ??? So i guess all content produced and sold after 6 months is fair game to be ripped off, stolen and shared for free ?

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What money did they spend producing the film?
probably how ever much it cost them to buy the rights to it???
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That is retarded, movies/songs continue to make tons of money and sales beyond the 6 month point. how in the fuck did they come up with 6 months ??? So i guess all content produced and sold after 6 months is fair game to be ripped off, stolen and shared for free ?
yes, this is exactly what the court thinks.

i am not saying that i agree or even liking it, just stating how the ruling has been recently

one reason that could have led to this, are the dozens of law firms who have specialised on mass suing users and were congesting courts. and in germany this has been going on for more than 5 or 6 years, not just recently.

so they obviously saw the need to draw a line somewhere
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yes, this is exactly what the court thinks.

i am not saying that i agree or even liking it, just stating how the ruling has been recently

one reason that could have led to this, are the dozens of law firms who have specialised on mass suing users and were congesting courts. and in germany this has been going on for more than 5 or 6 years, not just recently.

so they obviously saw the need to draw a line somewhere
Why the fuck you have to draw a line. Why does someone's work and ability to make income from it have to have an expiration date???? There is no need for the line. I dont care if it is 6 months or 6,000 years, why should that movie, song, or whatever "legally" according to the govt be declared for free all at some point in time? That is bullshit. Wont happen in the US.
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Why the fuck you have to draw a line.
You have to stop copyright troll cunt lawyers trying to get rich out of blackmail.

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I remember sitting in a cafe for a few hours and whipping up a Paris Hilton site that made weekly grocery money for about a year afterwards.

And that was only a few years ago........
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courts in germany have ruled that only in the first 6 months after a song/movie is launched a financial loss through filesharing can be claimed. after that timeframe all cases are dismissed now. i expect that something like this will at one point also in other countries become the norm.
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Would you would rather see porn companies getting poor because of piracy?

As a marketing man you suck donkey bollocks. What's your real job?
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Would you would rather see porn companies getting poor because of piracy?
Fascinating. That is the choice as you see it?

Option A
Blackmail people into paying a fine for a crime you have no actual proof of, and have no plans to actually litigate against. Take the money and run. Something that the MPAA and RIAA tried and have now stopped.

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Do not blackmail people, and wither and die.

?

Really?

You are a funny old thing, aren't you!

Paul, I guess we'll never agree on this. You think it's brilliant and awesome to blackmail end users. I think it is immoral and despicable.

I know, why don't - rather than make anything that resembles a point, or counter argument - why don't you just go back to calling me names and insulting me?

Makes you look well'ard and really helps back up your side of the discussion.


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Ah, there we go! Normality resumes. You are incapable of actually arguing against the very simple point I make, so you name call instead!

You go, girl!

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Damian you never answered my question... Are you an all out Pirate?

I retract my earlier statements that you aren't a Pirate. I honestly just felt sorry for you when you were exposed for being a Magician for childrens parties and Bar Mitzvahs... But now Im seriously wondering if you are an all out pirate.

You have already been proven 100 percent wrong in your pro-piracy crusade against copyright holders. Suing IP address' is already paying off in several verifiable ways. Your blackmail argument has no basis in logic.

I guess you missed the thread about the 250k settlement for Liberty and Corbin Fisher... the repurcussions of these anti-piracy measures are very apparent and absolutely verifiable. Please try to find some Corbin Fisher torrents and I dare you to download them.

You seem to have a problem with people protecting thier content but you have never givin the slightest justification for your views, is it because you are sitting there in your magicians cape, shaking in your little black boots because you are afraid that you are about to be served a summons?

Just because some lawyers are making money from these actions doesn't mean that they aren't working, torrent sites are starting to shut down, thier revenue streams are drying up, and this is just the beginning.

You're in the wrong forum to be pro-piracy Damian my man, you should go play on a torrent board where you belong.
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Damian you never answered my question... Are you an all out Pirate?
I did when I tried, so very hard, to explain to you, clearly fruitlessly, that opposing blackmail is not the same as being propiracy.

I see you've failed yet again to wrap your head around this HUGELY complicated issue.

Lemme break it down for you.

Pirate - I love piracy, I steal things from people
Damian - I think copyright troll lawyers legally blackmailing people is bad.

Can you see how those two statements are different?

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I retract my earlier statements that you aren't a Pirate.
Brilliant. So your proof is where?

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I honestly just felt sorry for you when you were exposed for being a Magician for childrens parties and Bar Mitzvahs...
Exposed? Everyone worth anything in this industry knows, and has seen my magic. As the thread you refer to proved. Massive Markham backfire, thanks for reminding me about it, it was fun.

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But now Im seriously wondering if you are an all out pirate.
I'm wondering if you are an all out pedo. Are you?

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You have already been proven 100 percent wrong in your pro-piracy crusade against copyright holders. Suing IP address' is already paying off in several verifiable ways.
I never claimed people wouldn't make money from the legal blackmail, love. Steve Lightspeed is planning to use it as his retirement! Loaded!

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Your blackmail argument has no basis in logic.
Er, come on man. If you are going to make a stupid point, at least make it amusing, like the rest of your posts.

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I think you downloaded Nazi Gay Porn and I am going to take you to court unless you pay me 500 bucks.

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How is that anything but legal blackmail?

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I guess you missed the thread about the 250k settlement for Liberty and Corbin Fisher... the repurcussions of these anti-piracy measures are very apparent and absolutely verifiable.
I know all about it, I was on a panel on this subject and spoke to the lawyer who did that case afterwards. I even know that he actually only got 25k of the 250,000 for it.

Did you know that? Course not. You see, in these cases they settle for pennies on the dollar because the defendant doesn't actually have the cash.

Bless you, waving your ignorance around like it's something to be proud of.

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Please try to find some Corbin Fisher torrents and I dare you to download them.
You dare me to commit a crime?

Grow up, son.

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You seem to have a problem with people protecting thier content
Not at all. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.

My problem is SOLELY with 20k john doe legal blackmail letters. How many times do I need to explain this to you. Would a picture help?

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but you have never givin the slightest justification for your views,
Because what you claim are my views, are not my views.

Hope that helps clear up that tricky problem for you, hun. It was a real doozy, eh?

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is it because you are sitting there in your magicians cape, shaking in your little black boots because you are afraid that you are about to be served a summons?
Nope. I won't receive such a letter, because I don't commit such crimes.

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Just because some lawyers are making money from these actions doesn't mean that they aren't working, torrent sites are starting to shut down, thier revenue streams are drying up, and this is just the beginning.
So, you honestly think ambulance chasing porn lawyers that keep 60-70% of the cash are doing this to stop piracy? That's sweet.

Why do you think the RIAA and MPAA stopped doing it? If it worked, they would keep doing it, wouldn't they? You can't be suggesting they are THAT stupid? Can you?

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You're in the wrong forum to be pro-piracy Damian my man, you should go play on a torrent board where you belong.
Please quote anything from me that is pro piracy. Just one thing.

I love the hard on you have for me. Shame we never met in Vegas. I thought you would have come along to the panel on suing end users I was invited to speak on. I'd love you to meet you. You coming to LA or Phoenix? We should have a sit down chat about your malicious lies.

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I'm wondering if you are an all out pedo. Are you?
Not cool man, not cool at all. Wouldn't be surprised if you got hit with the ban hammer for that statement.
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Not cool man, not cool at all. Wouldn't be surprised if you got hit with the ban hammer for that statement.
I just wondered. I didn't make any accusations of crime, unlike slutboat, who repeatedly libels me with baseless accusations he fails to back up with any proof.
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Why the fuck you have to draw a line. Why does someone's work and ability to make income from it have to have an expiration date???? There is no need for the line. I dont care if it is 6 months or 6,000 years, why should that movie, song, or whatever "legally" according to the govt be declared for free all at some point in time? That is bullshit. Wont happen in the US.
we're talking about mass sueing filesharing users here btw - not stealing and profiting from copyright violation

law firms have annoyed courts so much by flodding them with 200 Euro lawsuits that they had to draw a line.

and in case you didnt know, copyright is already limited by time:

http://inventors.about.com/od/copyri...expiration.htm
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I guess you missed the thread about the 250k settlement for Liberty and Corbin Fisher... the repurcussions of these anti-piracy measures are very apparent and absolutely verifiable. Please try to find some Corbin Fisher torrents and I dare you to download them.
you mean the totally fake settlement that was created just for show



http://torrentfreak.com/movie-studio...ves-in-110126/

the real settlement is hidden from view and referenced by the statement in the public settlement

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Defendant has an opportunity to reduce the amount payable to Plaintiff if Defendant ceases any further content theft (whether the Plaintiffís content or anyone elses), and if he makes regular payments toward the judgment on a schedule which will be agreed upon between the parties in a separate settlement agreement.
so basically the offered some smuck a sweetheart deal say settled with himm for 1cent
in exchange for him appearing as if he paid out 250k.

so they coulld offer an amnesty to a shit load of people who would be scared of the 250k settlement.
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boo hoo!!! Mama he libeled me! Waaa! I wish my magic wand could just make him go away!!! waaaa mama!!

I didn't make any accusations of a crime you whiney limey.

And when I said that suing IP's is paying off are you really so stupid to think I meant in settlement money? And who gives a flying FUCK if it was 250k, 25k or 25 cents... All of us shooters and site owners are benefitting enormously from the massive amount of public exposure these cases are generating. The torrent guys are running scared, even posting all kinds of warnings to users about getting sued.

It's working Damian Copperfield, much to your chargrin Im sure!

Cant believe I had to come back to this thread to clarify such an obvious point.
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You have to stop copyright troll cunt lawyers trying to get rich out of blackmail.

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he said "draw a line" as it pertains to how long before something is legally ok to rip off. Apparently Germany thinks 6 month is the line in the sand.

Nothing to do about lawyers blackmailing people so quote someone else and fuck off.
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we're talking about mass sueing filesharing users here btw - not stealing and profiting from copyright violation

law firms have annoyed courts so much by flodding them with 200 Euro lawsuits that they had to draw a line.

and in case you didnt know, copyright is already limited by time:

http://inventors.about.com/od/copyri...expiration.htm
filesharing is stealing. The file sharers might not be profiting, but the company they are stealing from is losing money... isn't losing money the same as stealing? it is in my book. They are stealing the companies profits...
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Cant believe I had to come back to this thread to clarify such an obvious point.
I think by "clarify such an obvious point" you mean "to lie and try and troll Damian again".

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he said "draw a line" as it pertains to how long before something is legally ok to rip off.
No, he said "draw a line" as it pertains to cunt lawyers sending tens of thousands of john doe cases clogging up the courts and stopping them doing sensible things.

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yes, this is exactly what the court thinks.

i am not saying that i agree or even liking it, just stating how the ruling has been recently

one reason that could have led to this, are the dozens of law firms who have specialised on mass suing users and were congesting courts. and in germany this has been going on for more than 5 or 6 years, not just recently.

so they obviously saw the need to draw a line somewhere
yes. under US copyright law the line is 90 years if the copyright is owned by a corporation it's 70 after the death of the owner if it's owned by a person. Now while I think that is rediculously long, that is the law.
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Nice, people shouldn't share crap-videos like that. People that share screeners should be sued too!
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