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| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
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|  01-31-2011, 08:04 PM | #1 | 
| Hmm Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. 
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				 |  What's the longest you were working on a single website? What is the longest time you were working on a website project before putting it all on-line? In other words for how long you were preparing your biggest website project before the launch. | 
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|  01-31-2011, 08:07 PM | #2 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 
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				 | some years ago I could work a whole day non-stop improving a site, because I knew it would mean "time=Money"... or one full month in a new site... Nowadays you can work 1 whole month in one ADULT site and it can make 0:50,000... And anyone saying: "that's because you don't know what you are doing", is obviously an idiot. | 
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|  01-31-2011, 08:38 PM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2007 
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				 | Since late 2005.  Still not online though. Well, it is in a way, but not really. Not sure if it ever will be either. Might keep it for internal use only. 
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|  01-31-2011, 08:53 PM | #4 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL 
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				 | I'm a fan of developing a project and rolling it out in phases. Get something basic up and out first, then build off of it. You should never spend more than a couple of months laying out the ground work. The longer you spend working on a concept, the older the idea will be when you finally bring it to market.  Put something soft out there, send a little traffic to it. Tweak it, perfect it, add some more features and functionality, etc etc. IMO that's the best way to get something up and out there. First impressions are important, and no matter what you throw at it in a dev environment things never go 100% smooth. I've seen a handful of people do a simultaneous product, affiliate program, launch announcement on a half cooked product. | 
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|  01-31-2011, 08:58 PM | #5 | |
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|  01-31-2011, 09:00 PM | #6 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL 
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|  01-31-2011, 09:14 PM | #7 | 
| Pay It Forward Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House 
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				 | 10 years 
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|  01-31-2011, 09:24 PM | #8 | 
| Affordable Content! Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona 
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				 | It took me a little over a year to get my multi-model site online because I had tons of photos and videos to prepare. 
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|  02-01-2011, 02:10 AM | #9 | 
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				 | more or less 6 years | 
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|  02-02-2011, 10:53 AM | #10 | |
| Hmm Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. 
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				 | Thanks, I feel now a bit more comforted. I've recently realized that I've spent for mine more than a year. Quote: 
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|  02-02-2011, 11:46 AM | #11 | 
| Choice is an Illusion Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama 
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				 | I learned long ago to launch a site once it's half way ready. If you are waiting for everything to be perfect, you waste a lot of time and the results can be the same as a half ready site.  I've done it both ways more than once. Now sites are launched 25-50% in and ramped up accordingly over time with more content, link building and the rest. Sometimes even with a starter design that is swapped out a few months or year later.  | 
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|  02-02-2011, 11:54 AM | #12 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Great White North 
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				 | Quote: 
 End of story. 
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|  02-02-2011, 12:21 PM | #13 | 
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|  02-02-2011, 12:47 PM | #14 | 
| Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2001 
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				 | So long I don't even remember   | 
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|  02-02-2011, 01:29 PM | #15 | 
| porn cartoonist Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vatican City 
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				 | I guess there are three basic factors involved.  - financial - how much money you'll get for that job - as freelancer you'll be having interest of getting the job done asap. if you're working in a company - then there are two (maybe three) sub options /human factors involved/: a. low salary employee- cmoon would you do something you hate fast? Wouldn't you hate your job if the payment is too low? b. high salary employee- sometimes they act like superstars. The term depends on their professional abilities - like skills, experience and so on. c. grey employee - those who push the companies ahead. they work fine under pressure and with a deadlines. The above three options should not be considered as part of person's character - it's variable - sometimes you get high paid job, sometimes not. Being grey - depends on the payment and circumstances. - human factors - what kind of professional you are. - what kind of person you are. - what kind of person is on the other side. - what kind of people working with you and what kind of professional are they. - circumstances: unpredictable situations - bad weather, health or family issues. | 
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|  02-02-2011, 01:32 PM | #16 | 
| Coupon Guru Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis 
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				 | I've got a site that I've been working on for about 2 years now. 
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|  02-02-2011, 01:36 PM | #17 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles 
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				 | My convertion ratio for VirtuaGirl was between 35,000 and 50,000 per sale. Are you saying the VirtuaGirl guys don't know what they are doing? 
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|  02-02-2011, 01:40 PM | #18 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. 
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				 | Real ideas are eternal hence imperishable, think again. 
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|  02-02-2011, 02:15 PM | #19 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver 
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				 | No, he's saying YOU don't know what you're doing. (I agree if your rations are 1:35,000-1:50,000) 
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|  02-02-2011, 02:21 PM | #20 | 
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				 | So what should I do differently? Storm the VirtuaGirl studio and demand a better ratio? 
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|  02-02-2011, 02:43 PM | #21 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL 
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				 | Better tailor the traffic to the sponsor you are using or send that traffic to a program who can better convert it. | 
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|  02-02-2011, 02:57 PM | #22 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Springfield 
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				 | about 6 months on mainstream site... 
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|  02-02-2011, 03:03 PM | #23 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 
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				 | ya no kidding, he makes countless amount of threads saying its impossible to make sales, he should know from this ratios that obviously he has no clue how to do it right. 
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|  02-02-2011, 03:31 PM | #24 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portugal 
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				 | As a webmaster/affiliate... Mainstream 100 hours. splited over several months... a script for second hand cars seller. www.jdauto.com.pt Adult Well, every days/weeks I make improvements on my (small) websites. I got SpicySolos.com since September and I worked on it yesterday and today. Tnks RocHard  
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