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Sid70 · 02-13-2011, 12:19 PM

Design doesnt matter that much to convert an average surfer. If you have a great product / content you will have surfers signing up, AVERAGE surfers, and they are probably those indifferent fucks who pay for porn, who are dumb enough to pay for it.

If you wanna look legit and respectable hire a designer, do it for YOURSELF and to SHOW OFF in the industry.

Porn is dirty. All they need is a pussy wide open.

loreen · 02-13-2011, 12:35 PM

I agree.
But it helps alot when your content sucks

mixing · 02-13-2011, 01:59 PM

I kind of agree with you. Design isn't everything..I think honestly when it comes down to it in the adult biz you are right, Content is King....However, your design should be good enough that visitors can navigate around easily and browse through all of that content.

wehateporn · 02-13-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixing

I kind of agree with you. Design isn't everything..I think honestly when it comes down to it in the adult biz you are right, Content is King....However, your design should be good enough that visitors can navigate around easily and browse through all of that content.

Exactly, it is important for a site to be functional, but pretty is a far lower priority (unless you want to sell the site)

MetaMan · 02-13-2011, 02:23 PM

design matters:
usability
layout
size of call to action buttons
flow
speed

all matter. If you dont find different you are doing it wrong. Above all testing tells the tale. There wouldnt be a different in stats if nothing mattered.

things spinning and looking cool do not matter.

facebook slaughtered myspace because of design.

Ron Bennett · 02-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Simple, basic design is often better ... look at the huge popularity of CraigsList (ok, that one could use a little updating, but it just works), The Drudge Report (a near perfect design for what it's used for), and Wikipedia.

Sites choke-full of flash and javascript keep the web designers busy - yeah, I know they've got to make a living, but all the extra nonsense (and that often is what it is) comes at a cost to both website owners (more money and stuff to fix) and visitors...

Slowness and flakyness; often lack of functionality compared to an older design - Google's Picasa is a prime example of that - their most recent chages degraded image zoom for many people. Weather Underground's most recent updates - so bad with so many complaints they've kept the old design active on a separate sub-domain. And Slashdot, much the same thing - many users stick with the older "classic" site, since it at least still runs half-way decent.

And YouTube's design changes - wow, what a mess with many users with lots of videos furious about "Load More" button and all the clicking. And many viewers frustrated about playback resolution automatically changing (in the previous version, the user had total control) when they go from viewing in a window to full-screen.

Rambling on, but anyways, there's a lot to be said for the K.I.S.S. principle - solid, updated content will keep visitors coming back for more assuming they can get to it without getting blocked / frustrated by all the flashy web design nonsense.

Ron

blackmonsters · 02-13-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

Design doesnt matter that much to convert an average surfer. If you have a great product / content you will have surfers signing up, AVERAGE surfers, and they are probably those indifferent fucks who pay for porn, who are dumb enough to pay for it.

If you wanna look legit and respectable hire a designer, do it for YOURSELF and to SHOW OFF in the industry.

Porn is dirty. All they need is a pussy wide open.

Why did it take 10 years?

If I had ever thought that designed mattered then I would have never made a
website 10 years ago.

Did you used to do site approval for Adult check?

Adult Check rejected one of my sites because I had text links instead of
buttons for navigation.
I took the same content and built a pay site with it and never heard from them again.

kazbalah · 02-13-2011, 02:56 PM

I have a page, thats a simple white page with a few lines of text, and a ENTER text link.

Converts at 1:400

Grapesoda · 02-13-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

Design doesnt matter that much to convert an average surfer. If you have a great product / content you will have surfers signing up, AVERAGE surfers, and they are probably those indifferent fucks who pay for porn, who are dumb enough to pay for it.

If you wanna look legit and respectable hire a designer, do it for YOURSELF and to SHOW OFF in the industry.

Porn is dirty. All they need is a pussy wide open.

all the design BS is for affiliates

Chosen · 02-13-2011, 03:30 PM

It took you pretty long to figure this out

pristine · 02-13-2011, 03:46 PM

design is much more important in mainstream.

chaze · 02-13-2011, 03:47 PM

Speed is important, slow websites will piss potential buyers off.

DWB · 02-13-2011, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley

all the design BS is for affiliates

Bingo.

Now it starts to make sense why so many have horrible ratios.

raven1083 · 02-14-2011, 01:15 AM

exactly design matters :0)

02-13-2011, 12:19 PM	#1
Sid70 Downshifter Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Road trip Posts: 16,413	After 10 years i can tell that... Design doesnt matter that much to convert an average surfer. If you have a great product / content you will have surfers signing up, AVERAGE surfers, and they are probably those indifferent fucks who pay for porn, who are dumb enough to pay for it. If you wanna look legit and respectable hire a designer, do it for YOURSELF and to SHOW OFF in the industry. Porn is dirty. All they need is a pussy wide open. __________________ Русня, идите нахуй!

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mixing Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,195	I kind of agree with you. Design isn't everything..I think honestly when it comes down to it in the adult biz you are right, Content is King....However, your design should be good enough that visitors can navigate around easily and browse through all of that content. __________________ Homepage/Sitewide Links For Sale \| Profile Link Package

02-13-2011, 02:29 PM	#6
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	Simple, basic design is often better ... look at the huge popularity of CraigsList (ok, that one could use a little updating, but it just works), The Drudge Report (a near perfect design for what it's used for), and Wikipedia. Sites choke-full of flash and javascript keep the web designers busy - yeah, I know they've got to make a living, but all the extra nonsense (and that often is what it is) comes at a cost to both website owners (more money and stuff to fix) and visitors... Slowness and flakyness; often lack of functionality compared to an older design - Google's Picasa is a prime example of that - their most recent chages degraded image zoom for many people. Weather Underground's most recent updates - so bad with so many complaints they've kept the old design active on a separate sub-domain. And Slashdot, much the same thing - many users stick with the older "classic" site, since it at least still runs half-way decent. And YouTube's design changes - wow, what a mess with many users with lots of videos furious about "Load More" button and all the clicking. And many viewers frustrated about playback resolution automatically changing (in the previous version, the user had total control) when they go from viewing in a window to full-screen. Rambling on, but anyways, there's a lot to be said for the K.I.S.S. principle - solid, updated content will keep visitors coming back for more assuming they can get to it without getting blocked / frustrated by all the flashy web design nonsense. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales Last edited by Ron Bennett; 02-13-2011 at 02:32 PM..

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	design matters: usability layout size of call to action buttons flow speed all matter. If you dont find different you are doing it wrong. Above all testing tells the tale. There wouldnt be a different in stats if nothing mattered. things spinning and looking cool do not matter. facebook slaughtered myspace because of design.

02-13-2011, 03:30 PM	#10
Chosen VIPPay.com \| AdultWebSponsors.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63,151	It took you pretty long to figure this out

02-13-2011, 03:46 PM	#11
pristine So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,176	design is much more important in mainstream.

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chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Speed is important, slow websites will piss potential buyers off.

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raven1083 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,687	exactly design matters :0) __________________ Femdom Stories \| Bound BBW Blog and Videos \|Bondage Sex Videos and Pictures Hardcore Japanese Bondage \| BDSM Movies And Galleries Mistress Cuckold CBT