Shouldn't the FBI look into Epassporte? - GoFuckYourself.com

AdPatron · 10-05-2010, 10:09 AM

Has anyone here thought about getting the Feds involved?

Oracle Porn · 10-05-2010, 10:12 AM

try it, lets see how it works out for you.

Shap · 10-05-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

Has anyone here thought about getting the Feds involved?

For what? St Kitts will be taking over the Virtual Visa. And ACH and Wires have been paying out people's Wallets. What would you need the FBI for?

signupdamnit · 10-05-2010, 10:17 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if they already are.

The secret service already apparently went after Mansef many months back and seized millions of dollars. For all we know that might have attracted more of their attention to adult. In fact it's probably naive to believe that it did not.

amateurbfs · 10-05-2010, 10:17 AM

People depend on their government for everything.

TylerBang · 10-05-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

For what? St Kitts will be taking over the Virtual Visa. And ACH and Wires have been paying out people's Wallets. What would you need the FBI for?

There may be an ACH problem. Another glitch

is happening right now.
As far as wallet payments go, many are still waiting.

I wonder if this is a bankruptcy or simply going out of business and "closing the doors"..

Shap · 10-05-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerBang

There may be an ACH problem. Another glitch

is happening right now.
As far as wallet payments go, many are still waiting.

I wonder if this is a bankruptcy or simply going out of business and "closing the doors"..

It's obvious the big money was in virtual visa. If St Kitts takes that over and the wallet funds are returned then i don't see how epass did anything wrong.

AdPatron · 10-05-2010, 10:22 AM

From what I see on here, not everyone has gotten their money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

For what? St Kitts will be taking over the Virtual Visa. And ACH and Wires have been paying out people's Wallets. What would you need the FBI for?

suesheboy · 10-05-2010, 10:23 AM

1) Of course they should look into these shady characters and their customers.

2) If you don't think feds watch this board you are delusional. If they don't, someone should be fired.

Shap · 10-05-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

From what I see on here, not everyone has gotten their money.

I haven't been reading the thread. They said all wallet would be paid out. Hopefully they honor that. It looks like the visa is being taken care of which was a huge worry for many people.

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I wouldn't be surprised if they already are.

The secret service already apparently went after Mansef many months back and seized millions of dollars. For all we know that might have attracted more of their attention to adult. In fact it's probably naive to believe that it did not.

They only went after their US company, they can't do shit about anything else they own/operate. So they can't do shit about epass either, since they used an offshore bank.

suesheboy · 10-05-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

It's obvious the big money was in virtual visa. If St Kitts takes that over and the wallet funds are returned then i don't see how epass did anything wrong.

You have also proven to be retarded throughout this ordeal so shut up.

Shap · 10-05-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

You have also proven to be retarded throughout this ordeal so shut up.

lol sure thing

marketsmart · 10-05-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

They only went after their US company, they can't do shit about anything else they own/operate. So they can't do shit about epass either, since they used an offshore bank.

wrong.... mallick is a US citizen and therefore within the reach of the US govt...

unless people dont get their money back, i dont see any laws that have been broken other than when they were involved with gaming years ago..

.

nmbr6 · 10-05-2010, 10:33 AM

I am certain the Feds are involved ... I have personal knowledge of the "Blackwater Group" investigating e-pass earlier this year as well.

All of these prepaid guys will eventually be gone

signupdamnit · 10-05-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

They only went after their US company, they can't do shit about anything else they own/operate. So they can't do shit about epass either, since they used an offshore bank.

I guess we'll see. Whatever this was it only took one month for Epassporte to be taken down.

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

wrong.... mallick is a US citizen and therefore within the reach of the US govt...

unless people dont get their money back, i dont see any laws that have been broken other than when they were involved with gaming years ago..

.

I never said Mallick is safe, but FBI can't do much about a bank in St Kitts, nor can they investigate them for anything.

PXN · 10-05-2010, 12:37 PM

Ya if u want them to see who hide paying their taxes.

CamJack · 10-05-2010, 12:38 PM

How about the IRS?

PXN · 10-05-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I haven't been reading the thread.

They said all wallet would be paid out. Hopefully they honor that.

It looks like the visa is being taken care of which was a huge worry for many people.

Where have you been? You got to be kidding me.

RaiderCash_Dominik · 10-05-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

From what I see on here, not everyone has gotten their money.

Correct. No ACHs lately. It will let you set up one but they go to no-where. Im missing 5 $2,500 transfers

harvey · 10-05-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

Has anyone here thought about getting the Feds involved?

who told you they aren't?

It's all assumptions, but let's see: everything Epass said since this started was a lie or a half truth, with a common behavior: always make sure the responsibilities are unclear. That was somehow smart since most people can't access the real sources. Probably none of us.

Now, if we play detective, let's say their first statement had at least some small part of truth: that VISA took the plug off immediately and without warning. If we assume this was true, then by VISA regulations the only way to do that is with a legal order by a superior court in the country or area the bank is located. And not only CARICOM falls under this regulation, BUT CARICOM IS THE MAIN REASON WHY VISA MADE THIS REGULATION TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

Now, due to their legal status, I don't know if the enforcement falls under US or St Kitts or what. Just mentioning the only objective fact I know assuming VISA really unplugged them without warning: some enforcement law was needed, some legal order was required, some federal force has to be involved. Out of that, I don't have a fucking idea about what's going on, same as everybody else.

On the other hand, if VISA took the plug off while they knew it with some anticipation, then Epass operations falls under the financial fraud figure. For this kind of multinational setups, it usually falls under the sphere of Interpol.

Either way, not a nice scenario by any means

seeandsee · 10-05-2010, 01:17 PM

if money is payed then blah

AdPatron · 10-05-2010, 01:31 PM

No one told me they were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

who told you they aren't?

It's all assumptions, but let's see: everything Epass said since this started was a lie or a half truth, with a common behavior: always make sure the responsibilities are unclear. That was somehow smart since most people can't access the real sources. Probably none of us.

Now, if we play detective, let's say their first statement had at least some small part of truth: that VISA took the plug off immediately and without warning. If we assume this was true, then by VISA regulations the only way to do that is with a legal order by a superior court in the country or area the bank is located. And not only CARICOM falls under this regulation, BUT CARICOM IS THE MAIN REASON WHY VISA MADE THIS REGULATION TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

Now, due to their legal status, I don't know if the enforcement falls under US or St Kitts or what. Just mentioning the only objective fact I know assuming VISA really unplugged them without warning: some enforcement law was needed, some legal order was required, some federal force has to be involved. Out of that, I don't have a fucking idea about what's going on, same as everybody else.

On the other hand, if VISA took the plug off while they knew it with some anticipation, then Epass operations falls under the financial fraud figure. For this kind of multinational setups, it usually falls under the sphere of Interpol.

Either way, not a nice scenario by any means

Pipecrew · 10-05-2010, 01:32 PM

haha, 95% of the webmasters were too afraid to call the bank and ask about their money, you think they are going to call the fbi?

Sly · 10-05-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

haha, 95% of the webmasters were too afraid to call the bank and ask about their money, you think they are going to call the fbi?

I can't believe nobody went down there. It's not that far and would make for a nice minivacation anyway. Not that visiting the bank would have done much... but still.

tranza · 10-05-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

For what? St Kitts will be taking over the Virtual Visa. And ACH and Wires have been paying out people's Wallets. What would you need the FBI for?

Well, as far as I know, I gave my money to Epassporte. NOT to a St Kitts Bank.

They should be liable for it.

tranza · 10-05-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I can't believe nobody went down there. It's not that far and would make for a nice minivacation anyway. Not that visiting the bank would have done much... but still.

I seriously thought of doing that. But I simply COULDN'T find any flights from Brazil-St Kitts. Even with multiple stops.

How the hell am I supposed to get there??

SleazyDream · 10-05-2010, 02:00 PM

the people that SHOULD be worried about the Feds the ones whining on here that didn't declare the income they got through epassporte

baddog · 10-05-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

No one told me they were.

J. Edgar Hoover must be spinning in his grave knowing you did not get the memo.

notime · 10-05-2010, 02:56 PM

So if we wire legit accountable money from our triple-A bank bank in Holland thru our verified business account to Epassport's Belgian's Fortis bank, who is now merging with ABN-AMRO bank (bought by the Dutch goverment), in Curacao, that falls under Dutch 'law and protection' so we can pay out affiliates... but then affiliates chose not to be paid in epassporte funds any longer because of fear and rumours and we ask for the wire back, how can that be a problem to epassporte or any of these 3-letter guys? We want a wire refund that we send ourselves.

CC and ACH seem to work to verified accounts I read. We have verified accounts also the last years. I don't see the problem to be honest.

Dear epass and/or people in control, please have this wire refund fixed. Very much appriciated in advance. Thank you.

V_RocKs · 10-05-2010, 03:12 PM

I have money between my wallets and ACH to my bank. Is this more money in motion?

Choker · 10-05-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I have money between my wallets and ACH to my bank. Is this more money in motion?

Me too, I think we can kiss that goodbye.

harvey · 10-05-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

No one told me they were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

J. Edgar Hoover must be spinning in his grave knowing you did not get the memo.

Dirty Dane · 10-05-2010, 04:43 PM

It's porn. FBI do not care.

MrDeiz · 02-15-2011, 04:06 AM

good point

Chosen · 02-15-2011, 04:30 AM

LoL I though this thread is new

Lykos · 02-15-2011, 04:49 AM

I hope they will asap!

naz2k6 · 02-15-2011, 04:57 AM

How many have filed an IC3 report?

AdPatron · 02-15-2011, 10:42 AM

What's the status on epassporte? I've been under a rock for the past few months.

chaze · 02-15-2011, 11:18 AM

Any business out of the US is barley regulated on the internet, you should find people from the US out of the country or reputable people if you want to do off shore business. It's about the people not the business when working off shores.

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webair · 02-15-2011, 11:31 AM

I'm sure they have received more than a few complaints already.

brassmonkey · 02-15-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by naz2k6

How many have filed an IC3 report?

file a local police report as well

i filed last year

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