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![]() Sorry, but if you believe in cookies ? you are seriously kidding yourselves. |
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yes, the affiliate model is dying a pretty long, drawn out, slow death, unfortunately.
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The Affiliate "business model" is not dead or dying ? it is just that the smart sponsors are modifying the terms under which they compensate their business partners ( the affiliate). |
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Well, unless the surfer will change IP address between clicking my link and joining
the pay site, the IP tracking should record my sale.
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i've yet to see a sponsor worth a damn not already have a non-cookie solution
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This is why I suggested that AFFILIATE PROGRAMS create a Better/more caring reliationship with their affiliates.
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fucking up with user's cookies is evident for a longer period of time now...
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affiliate model died! and there is no money in porn for affiliater...
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Oh snap... no more cookies?
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I'm sure TMM will stay ahead of the game and keep all your referral sales safe and secure
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there's no $$$ in porn
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Sponsors that track using cookies will enjoy this in the short run because they won't be crediting their affiliates for a big part of the traffic they are sending. However, they will lose a lot of traffic in the long run as their affiliates ratios keep getting worse and worse.
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what are systems like Epoch and CCBill doing about this, anyone knows?
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by a decade . IP tracking has been around for a long time. Since the beginning of the internet in fact. This question comes up all the time and the answer is always the same. This cookie shit is becoming the new "Birther Movement". ![]()
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I doubt people will be using the private browsing feature anymore than rushing out to buy porn on their mobile. Remember the script that strips out the ad banners on web pages? More Chicken Little. Cookies are going to be around for a long time. Tracking by IP, seems like it would work great on mobile devices, eh?
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actually this is good for affiliates. remove cookies from the mix, replace with no-leak tours and proper id passing, and the correct affiliate who sent the traffic will get paid for the traffic. the end of cookie stuffing would be good for the average affiliate.
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I recall back in the day AOL was all about setting the parental controls like that. Then one day they hid them to make it harder to switch them off.
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So far as I'm aware, the major browser require you to enable the privacy feature. A lot of mainstream sites rely on cookies as well. The browsing experience basically sucks with the privacy feature enabled. So I don't see it becoming popular enough to impact my affiliate sales.
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Maybe the pay per click model will come back.... That would be nice.
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What would happen to Google without the cookie?
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You say it shouldn't negatively impact your affiliate sales but it definitely will not be having a positive impact on affiliates. Even if the number is 5% that's still 5% more that the affiliate is losing and sending the sponsor for free without compensation. 5% here, 5% there, 5% a year ago, 5% when this browser enables the feature by default etc and before you know it the affiliate is losing 30% of sales sent while the sponsor laughs all the way to the bank with what used to be the affiliate's money. It's almost like having an account with a bank who will not credit you for any deposits if the last digit of the minute during which the deposit transaction is made is a 1, 2, or 3. This would be considered outrageous and unacceptable. It's time for affiliates to demand some changes. |
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Tracking by IP is no better, obviously that only works with static IP addresses and even those change unless the customer is paying a fee for it. I don't even believe there is static IP addresses for mobile. So when you get down to it, there actually is not a better tracking solution than the cookie. So much Internet commerce relies on it, that until everyone is assigned a permanent IP address, nothing much is going to change. Just imagine usernames/passwords, I use a ton of them and several programs to manage them. With the privacy feature enabled, I have to remember the user/pass for every single site I go to and, believe me, that is going to get old in a hurry.
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ccbill is stuck in the 1990s
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the flash part is non-news, I don't think any adult sponsor uses "flash cookies" for tracking, do they?
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What tracked with this?
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Not sure, but I think that ADobe is talking about the Cookies stored in Flash, not in the browser. Yes, Flash tracks surfers too.
When you clear your cookies in IE for example, you are clearing your web cookies. Any cookie-like info collected from Flash remains in place when you only clear your web cookies. Adobe's update announced now makes it easier to clear your flash cookies. That being said, the affiliate model sucks anyway. Demand for higher and higher commissions and more and more tools and hosted-everything coupled with the fickleness (sp?) of most affiliates make the affiliate model less and less interesting for program owners. It is much cheaper and easier to buy ads these days, and has been for years.
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omg porn is dead ! again...
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I don't think "porn is dead" nor the "affiliate business model" is obsolete. However, I do think that we all need to rethink our marketing strategies realizing the slippage of our affiliate's revenue directly related to our tracking processes. |
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I have some good news for our Affiliates and our future Affiliates, with all cookies disabled our PHP sessions will record your affiliate ID and your referred customer account will be tied to your affiliate account for a guaranteed lifetime revshare. |
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Recall posting about it in 2009 when it was in the making still.
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Cookie monster is stuffing your cookies!
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this thread is funny
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No prob. There are many way to set up a cookie even if user has them disabled. E.g.: http://samy.pl/evercookie/ - the affiliate programs can use this script.
But do they really want it?..
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Cookies are bullshit ...
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