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Old 03-15-2011, 10:06 AM   #1
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Japan crisis exceeds Three Mile Island, expert says; no-fly zone declared

Japan crisis exceeds Three Mile Island, expert says; no-fly zone declared - Mar 2011

SOMA, Japan ? The catastrophe at Japan's stricken nuclear complex is now worse than Three Mile Island, experts said Tuesday. An explosion overnight at Unit 4 at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant opened two large holes in the structure housing spent nuclear fuel rods in a large pool. Japanese officials told the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) that the spent fuel storage area had caught fire and that radioactivity was "being released directly into the atmosphere."

The radiation releases prompted Japan to order 140,000 people to seal themselves indoors and a30-kilometer (19-mile) no-fly zone was imposed around the site Tuesday. Soon after the latest events, France's nuclear safety authority ASN said the disaster ranks as alevel 6 on the international scale of 1 to 7. Level 7 was used only once, for Chernobyl in Ukraine in 1986. The 1979 accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania was rated a level 5.

"It is very clear that we are at a level 6," ASN President Andre-Claude Lacoste told a news conference in Paris. "We are clearly in a catastrophe." "This event is now closer to a level 6, and it may unfortunately reach a level 7," added David Albright, head of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, D.C.

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i'll wait til dyna comments.. he has convinced me that there will be no disaster...

i am pretty sure he is talking directly with the reactor staff in japan...






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i'll wait til dyna comments.. he has convinced me that there will be no disaster...

i am pretty sure he is talking directly with the reactor staff in japan...






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It's all very well sealing yourself indoors but I don't know anybody that lives in a radiation proof house.
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I just took an iodine tablet just in case ...
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:25 AM   #6
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dynamo said this wasn't going to happen. wtf.
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dynamo said this wasn't going to happen. wtf.
did you catch the part when he was trying to stir up panic? then he switched to 'nothing to worry about'
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Well, at least they're telling people whats going on to some extent.
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dynamo said this wasn't going to happen. wtf.
just remember what's important.... you & I predicted this shit.
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We wanted the no fly zone for Lybia. way to go, assholes.
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what you all doing here? shouldn't you all be hiding under your beds?
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what you all doing here? shouldn't you all be hiding under your beds?
Traveling east is more like it. This shit is getting worse by the hour, and I have no reason to believe it's going to be any better in the days to come. That shit is going to go full nuclear meltdown very soon. They know it, they just aren't telling everyone else yet.
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Traveling east is more like it. This shit is getting worse by the hour, and I have no reason to believe it's going to be any better in the days to come. That shit is going to go full nuclear meltdown very soon. They know it, they just aren't telling everyone else yet.
if it's a jet stream issue, why travel east?
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if it's a jet stream issue, why travel east?
best chance for survival short of a fallout bunker?
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best chance for survival short of a fallout bunker?
well, for example, if i were to flee, wouldn't i head north rather than east?
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The iodine risk is livestock eating grass rained on by iodine contamination, and you eating the milk or meat from the livestock. So first, you shouldnt get overly excited about that one I dont think.

This according to an expert I saw on tv anyway, who knows.
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The iodine risk is livestock eating grass rained on by iodine contamination, and you eating the milk or meat from the livestock. So first, you shouldnt get overly excited about that one I dont think.

This according to an expert I saw on tv anyway, who knows.
Potassium iodine is meant to prevent radiation sickness to some degree.

Not sure this is quite such a big deal, venting off the steam that they're using to cool the units is not the same as the rods themselves being exposed to open air.

Lawrence Berkeley Labs say as well that the released radiation isn't going high enough into the air to be picked up by the jet stream as of yet either. Dispersal over the ocean is most likely with the drifting particulate.
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well, for example, if i were to flee, wouldn't i head north rather than east?
your choice. It's gonna be every man for himself in this brave new radioactive world, and I'm not looking for apocalypse buddies.
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venting off the steam that they're using to cool the units is not the same as the rods themselves being exposed to open air.
word is, they are exposed.
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"no-fly zone declared" = we don't want everyone to see how bad it really is.
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"no-fly zone declared" = we don't want everyone to see how bad it really is.
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thanks for all the comments!

yes, you are all correct, Richard, i guess i did stir up panic with my thread re wanting viable information from a single source back on saturday, i think it was.

that issue obviously sorted itself out as time went by and i was able to get better and updated information and understanding re: the single reactor that was the issue when i started that thread.

and yes, after getting a better idea of what was going on, i believed that the engineers and scientists working on the crisis had a solid plan- flooding the reactor with sea water, would continue to work as it turns out it did on that reactor.

unfortunately, things got worse elsewhere and the same exact methods of dealing with the 1-2 punch experienced an issue and now we are in another crisis with that.

there ya go.
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oops, so i apologize for publically trying to understand and comprehend the extent of this triple disaster.
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your choice. It's gonna be every man for himself in this brave new radioactive world, and I'm not looking for apocalypse buddies.
just saying the jet stream goes east as well
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i wonder which stirred up more shit, my observing the lack of a 30' wall of water as described by reporters or my opining a glass half full view on the nuclear disaster.
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I can't help but to think - what if this was me? ;/
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I can't help but to think - what if this was me? ;/
me too man. it trips me out.
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So I'm looking at google maps to see what japan looks like, and I notice this weird icon....

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It looks as though this nuclear reactor meltdown is going to cause the whole world to rethink using them ever again. It's scary to think that with all our technology we still cannot control this energy at all.

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i wonder which stirred up more shit, my observing the lack of a 30' wall of water as described by reporters or my opining a glass half full view on the nuclear disaster.
You sure seem to be winning with that ignorance you've got going. Great job
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You sure seem to be winning with that ignorance you've got going. Great job
doing what i can to get a grip on it all, as i mentioned above, so my level of understanding is the best i can have it imo. you can try and use that to insult me all you want but that really reveals more about you than me.
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here's a very good article on the subject i read early yesterday that helped me form a perspective at that time, if reading a ton of similar articles and watching tons of video over & over again has made me ignorant on the subject in some eyes, so be it.

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Analysis Japan's nuclear powerplants have performed magnificently in the face of a disaster hugely greater than they were designed to withstand, remaining entirely safe throughout and sustaining only minor damage. The unfolding Fukushima story has enormously strengthened the case for advanced nations ? including Japan ? to build more nuclear powerplants, in the knowledge that no imaginable disaster can result in serious problems.

Let's recap on what's happened so far.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03...iima_analysis/
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