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Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 02:19 AM

It looks like googles new brilliant panda algorithm is doing every porn surfer a favor.
All the illegal tubes have jumped up the serps, so by the time they get to our paysites, they already KNOW they dont have to buy shit from you because everything they saw up till then is free.

Another nice factor is the weight of bouncerate and pv's. Great idea google, guess you didnt count the fact that paysites often have a higher bouncerate and less pv's because of all the free surfers that immediatly close any paysite now.

Great fucking idea. As if we wherent fucked already

So as off today, im going to gradually give away FREE porn on my paysites. As a gift, to google, for the love of getting things for free!

grumpy · 04-13-2011, 03:17 AM

sure, blame google

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

sure, blame google

Not blaming them, but surely you agree they arent helping us either.
And if nobody cares, why would i?

Chris · 04-13-2011, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

sure, blame google

this is one of those rare times that you can actually blame google

search for porn

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

this is one of those rare times that you can actually blame google

search for porn

Exactly my point.

And its for any major keyword.
If you arent in the webcam biz (or selling products), you will notice the big fucking ownage anytime soon.

Chris · 04-13-2011, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Exactly my point.

And its for any major keyword.
If you arent in the webcam biz (or selling products), you will notice the big fucking ownage anytime soon.

Products such as myself we have seen a major hit in the SEO world. Things that worked last month just flat out don't work anymore.

Until google stops fucking with ppl i am going to stick to the tried and true ppc method of things - hell the rules for that even changed with your landing pages..you will now get paid if they feel like its just a page to advertise and offer now real value lol

Aussie Rebel · 04-13-2011, 03:53 AM

adapt or die

PornHero · 04-13-2011, 03:53 AM

A pornsite is a website that links to porn.

By that definition, Google is the biggest pornsite in the world.

Sure, other people upload and host the porn pics and videos, but Google has the most links to porn.

It's Google's world, we are just squirrels trying to get a nut on the information superhighway.

Chris · 04-13-2011, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PornHero

It's Google's world, we are just squirrels trying to get a nut on the information superhighway.

lol i said something like that to a friend yesterday

Chezter · 04-13-2011, 04:22 AM

i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chezter

i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

I think you missed the news about googles new geniusly build algo.

plsureking · 04-13-2011, 04:42 AM

u are preaching to the choir...

.

BlackCrayon · 04-13-2011, 04:51 AM

google fucked me this time around. was number one for a term for a couple years, made some decent money off it. now my site is nowhere to be found and tubes fill the first couple of pages..

seeandsee · 04-13-2011, 04:53 AM

they dont care about what site have, they care about backlinks

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

u are preaching to the choir...

.

The choir already got fucked by god for free, amen google.

Barefootsies · 04-13-2011, 04:54 AM

I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

That being said, it sounds like you need to re-invent a more interactive website that keeps people clicking on it longer. Maybe a free tour with a decent chunk of scenes to keep them clicking before asking for the sale. Or some other form of interaction.

Then you should decrease bounce rates, and increase time on site, hence climb back up.

DamageX · 04-13-2011, 04:57 AM

Google serves the surfers, not the webmasters.

OT Friskyman, hit me up on ICQ yo!

Si · 04-13-2011, 05:17 AM

I noticed my sites that have high bounce rates but still produced results (people clicking through to what I was selling) have dropped.

So obviously keeping that visitors on a site longer is a big thing to them at the moment.

Django · 04-13-2011, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

That being said, it sounds like you need to re-invent a more interactive website that keeps people clicking on it longer. Maybe a free tour with a decent chunk of scenes to keep them clicking before asking for the sale. Or some other form of interaction.

Then you should decrease bounce rates, and increase time on site, hence climb back up.

Good point.

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

they dont care about what site have, they care about backlinks

Maybe you should get out of your cave a lil more ;)

TeenCat · 04-13-2011, 06:37 AM

you know, google is not our babysitter ... google is search engine, and if someone is looking for porn and some stolen content website have best backlinks and content and traffic, that website have to be first sure. they cannot ban the sites, you know what it will ends? banned anything, people complains, only shit ... so, do better to get before the stolen site, its what you have to do, do not sleep, business is still fight ...

Paul Markham · 04-13-2011, 06:37 AM

So you all know the problem and it's going to get worse and never get better.

The days of selling tons of memberships to sites with the same boring pre recorded porn are coming to an end.

There are solutions, but few want to bother with them.

Go to live sex that can't be downloaded.

Make the experience and cost of a site something people want to buy.

Don't tell us problems, look for solutions.

But I'm too old to have a clue. Like you young ones.

The problem isn't Google. It's your sites. People hit them and say NO. People hit Tubes and say YES, bookmark and you're fucked, because you just lost a potential customer.

arock10 · 04-13-2011, 06:48 AM

google owns youtube, so what do you expect?

Chris · 04-13-2011, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chezter

i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

the rankings they picked up in the past few weeks is nothing like it was a few months ago

dyna mo · 04-13-2011, 07:31 AM

should google change their algo because we give porn away?

Jack Sparrow · 04-13-2011, 07:39 AM

Lots of people completely missing the point.

FlexxAeon · 04-13-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

G & Matt have already said they are proud of their results. they're clearly looking at specific types of results and not porn. we're one of the last things on their minds when it comes to algo tweaks. it's like in a car accident, the last thing you're worried about is if your big gulp of mountain dew spilled or not.

all we can do is hold on for dear life and/or figure out how to work the panda to our benefit

i'll tell you this much, if it wasn't for branding and longtail i'd be destroyed. lost some major top spots that i've literally been the authority in and had for years. looking like it's climbing back (slowly), but it's the branding and longtail that is keeping me afloat right now

Agent 488 · 04-13-2011, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

It looks like googles new brilliant panda algorithm is doing every porn surfer a favor.
All the illegal tubes have jumped up the serps, so by the time they get to our paysites, they already KNOW they dont have to buy shit from you because everything they saw up till then is free.

Another nice factor is the weight of bouncerate and pv's. Great idea google, guess you didnt count the fact that paysites often have a higher bouncerate and less pv's because of all the free surfers that immediatly close any paysite now.

Great fucking idea. As if we wherent fucked already

So as off today, im going to gradually give away FREE porn on my paysites. As a gift, to google, for the love of getting things for free!

i agree man this update sucked.

although the bounce rate theory, people are spreading it but has google said anything (link?), or an any proof?

i suspect they devalued certain types of backlinks though, increased the weight of link spammed from twitter and facebook.

should call it the tube update.

Agent 488 · 04-13-2011, 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=FlexxAeon;18053480

i'll tell you this much, if it wasn't for branding and longtail i'd be destroyed. lost some major top spots that i've literally been the authority in and had for years. looking like it's climbing back (slowly), but it's the branding and longtail that is keeping me afloat right now[/QUOTE]

i shared one of those with you for years man but site got deindexed for no reason. i feel your pain. unless you got me deindexed ...

2intense · 04-13-2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Lots of people completely missing the point.

i agree

FlexxAeon · 04-13-2011, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

i shared one of those with you for years man but site got deindexed for no reason. i feel your pain. unless you got me deindexed ...

nah i don't do that.

sucks though because right now those top spots are either tubes, thin landing pages, or really shitty sites that had no chance at getting a top spot over me pre-Panda

AdultKing · 04-13-2011, 09:29 AM

Klen · 04-13-2011, 10:49 AM

Funny how on keyword sex pornhub is still there,but brazzers dot com is completely gone.

cooldude7 · 04-13-2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So you all know the problem and it's going to get worse and never get better.

The days of selling tons of memberships to sites with the same boring pre recorded porn are coming to an end.

There are solutions, but few want to bother with them.

Go to live sex that can't be downloaded.

Make the experience and cost of a site something people want to buy.

Don't tell us problems, look for solutions.

But I'm too old to have a clue. Like you young ones.

The problem isn't Google. It's your sites. People hit them and say NO. People hit Tubes and say YES, bookmark and you're fucked, because you just lost a potential customer.

whats ur point ?
we should start illegal tube site ?

arock10 · 04-13-2011, 05:31 PM

illegal puzzle tube site that counts bathrooms

04-13-2011, 05:51 PM

Was interesting to wake up yesterday to see 50% less google traffic for some terms that I've had top spot on for YEARS. Time to reduce those bounce rates and increase time on the sites. There are a few ways to do so, and one of them includes giving away more :X

Go figure! Thanks Google!

Seth Manson · 04-13-2011, 06:34 PM

I never really liked the business other than how easy it was to make a large amount of money. I didnt care for anything else that goes with it. I have to say I'm kind of glad its on the way out and I'm really glad the other stuff I started working on months ago is really picking up now.

And one thing I've always said about Google: Relying on it for your sole source of income is just retarded.

Jack Sparrow · 04-14-2011, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete

Who you kidding, you don't have a paysite.

Lol ok, i dont then. Im just pretending because erm..

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Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	So if google doesnt care, im giving away all my porn for free now too.. It looks like googles new brilliant panda algorithm is doing every porn surfer a favor. All the illegal tubes have jumped up the serps, so by the time they get to our paysites, they already KNOW they dont have to buy shit from you because everything they saw up till then is free. Another nice factor is the weight of bouncerate and pv's. Great idea google, guess you didnt count the fact that paysites often have a higher bouncerate and less pv's because of all the free surfers that immediatly close any paysite now. Great fucking idea. As if we wherent fucked already So as off today, im going to gradually give away FREE porn on my paysites. As a gift, to google, for the love of getting things for free!

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	[QUOTE=FlexxAeon;18053480 i'll tell you this much, if it wasn't for branding and longtail i'd be destroyed. lost some major top spots that i've literally been the authority in and had for years. looking like it's climbing back (slowly), but it's the branding and longtail that is keeping me afloat right now[/QUOTE] i shared one of those with you for years man but site got deindexed for no reason. i feel your pain. unless you got me deindexed ...

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