those whacky arabs

[Grapesoda]

In Israeli prisons, Louai Faisal, sentenced as a would-be suicide bomber for Hamas, learned to be a florist. In Palestinian Authority prisons in the West Bank, the resident of Hebron said he was accused of belonging to Hamas and tortured.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

[Phoenix]

interesting that they taught him something that he could go get a job at afterwards

there should be something like that here in canada

although maybe not for would be suicide bombers...but younger guys/girls who are still not a lifer..or they have a shot...teach them tool and die...or plumbing...or something....and then wham, they can get a decent job outside

[SmokeyTheBear]

Leading rabbi encourages IDF soldiers to use Palestinian human shields

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...ields-1.320311

During the Israeli onslaught against Gaza earlier this year, Mordecahi Elyahu, one of the leading rabbinic figures in Israel, petitioned the Israeli government to carry out a series of carpet bombing of Palestinian population centres in Gaza.

[_Richard_]

west bank is arabian?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Leading rabbi encourages IDF soldiers to use Palestinian human shields

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...ields-1.320311

During the Israeli onslaught against Gaza earlier this year, Mordecahi Elyahu, one of the leading rabbinic figures in Israel, petitioned the Israeli government to carry out a series of carpet bombing of Palestinian population centres in Gaza.

there will be always something going on there. both sides want the other to die. i say arm both sides and put it on pay per view. new tv series "holy wars" its over when their all dead. j/k war is a terrible thing.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

west bank is arabian?

the Palestinians are pretty much Arabs these days.... maybe 4000 years ago not, but now, yes

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

there will be always something going on there. both sides want the other to die. i say arm both sides and put it on pay per view. new tv series "holy wars" its over when their all dead. j/k war is a terrible thing.

whoa!! a reaity show!!!

[papill0n]

and so whats your point?

you seem to like to talk about arabs, so lets hear what you have to say about the story.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by papill0n

and so whats your point?

you seem to like to talk about arabs, so lets hear what you have to say about the story.

you obviously have an agenda with that questiin... what's your thinking on the story?

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

you obviously have an agenda with that questiin... what's your thinking on the story?

you obviously have an agenda with this thread... what's your thinking on the story?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by papill0n

you obviously have an agenda with this thread... what's your thinking on the story?

hmmmmm I'm gonna go and think, about what to think

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by papill0n

you obviously have an agenda with this thread... what's your thinking on the story?

rather think about pussy

[SmokeyTheBear]

the IDF's top rabbi, instructed soldiers: "There is no such thing as civilians in wartime… A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail!"

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the IDF's top rabbi, instructed soldiers: "There is no such thing as civilians in wartime? A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail!"

straight out of the old testament (Torah) nothing new there.....

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

straight out of the old testament (Torah) nothing new there.....

no it isn't... it is straight out of a racist scumbags mouth

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

no it isn't... it is straight out of a racist scumbags mouth

read the Torah be my first thought... and don't drink so much coffee, and have a some prune juice be my other thought

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

no it isn't... it is straight out of a racist scumbags mouth

One difficulty arises out of the numerous commands from God recorded in the book for the Israelites to destroy people and animals in the land that they are occupying. This is related to the concept of cherem (set apart for God, or set under a ban) in which entire cities (such as Jericho, 6:17?19) are recorded as commanded to be devoted to destruction.

Some theologians (including many adherents of liberal theology) see this as an ethically unjustifiable order to commit genocide, which is inconsistent with the overall view in the Hebrew and Christian scriptures of God as a loving, compassionate Creator. They see it as a theological polemic, with the majority of events invented during or after the Babylonian captivity, to encourage faithfulness to the Jewish creed at a time when it was being threatened. For instance, Morton says that Joshua "should be understood as a rite of ancient peoples (Israel among them) whereby within the context of their times, they attempted to please their God (or the gods)".[29]

Others, including many conservative theologians who see the book as a historically accurate account written during or soon after the life of Joshua, explain the cruelty of the Israelites as God's way of making an example of nations that engaged in abhorrent practices. Although the book gives no explicit justification for the commands to kill, Deuteronomy 9:4 indicates that this is on account of the "wickedness of those nations". Some theologians have pointed to evidence of practices such as child sacrifice, although others argue that it may have been polemic invented at a later date in order to justify the act of extermination.[30] Hence they believe that the message of Joshua was intended not only for the surrounding nations, but for the Israelites as well (e.g. the stoning of Achan due to his transgression of the cherem).

A Christian alternative viewpoint is to cite progressive revelation in which God reveals himself partially to Joshua and the Jews, but (in due time) fully through Jesus Christ.[31] Proponents of this view argue that the description of war in the book of Joshua was culturally conditioned. For instance, Chapman suggests that the accounts of war and genocide are "the gradual process by which God works in the history of a particular people for whom war is an essential part of religion and culture".[32] The Mennonite scholar John Howard Yoder suggests that the concept of cherem was unique in relation to the morality of the time not in its violence, but in ensuring that "war does not become a source of immediate enrichment through plunder",[33] and hence was the beginning of a trajectory that would lead ultimately to the teaching of nonviolence. The Mesha Stele, however, contains a statement by King Mesha of Moab that he captured the town of Nebo and killed all seven thousand people there, "for I had devoted them to destruction for (the god) Ashtar-Chemosh."[34] This suggests that the concept of herem was not unique.

[Antonio]

whoever made the falafel first, I'm on their side

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Antonio

whoever made the falafel first, I'm on their side

yep.... love persian food as well

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

read the Torah be my first thought... and don't drink so much coffee, and have a some prune juice be my other thought

not found sorry ,please try again. only match found is by racist scumbag so far.. but feel free to post the passage

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

not found sorry ,please try again. only match found is by racist scumbag so far.. but feel free to post the passage

this post makes no sense actually... try again? here ya go dipshit:

http://www.thevillageatheist.co.uk/genocide.html

Deuteronomy 2:

33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

this post makes no sense actually... try again? here ya go dipshit:

http://www.thevillageatheist.co.uk/genocide.html

Deuteronomy 2:

33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain

and once again you prove you cannot read properly..

doesn't say anything remotely similar to what the racist scumbag said..

i think the confusion is perhaps you misunderstand of what "straight from the torah" means. I think what you meant to say was.. "it doesn't say anything even remotely close to that in the bible, but the torah is full of bullshit like most bibles"


in the book of smokey that was published centuries before the torah it is written..

smokeyotomy 4:20

"there will be a book called the bible , it will be full of shit, only sheep shaleth read it"

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

and once again you prove you cannot read properly..

doesn't say anything remotely similar to what the racist scumbag said..

i think the confusion is perhaps you misunderstand of what "straight from the torah" means. I think what you meant to say was.. "it doesn't say anything even remotely close to that in the bible, but the torah is full of bullshit like most bibles"


in the book of smokey that was published centuries before the torah it is written..

smokeyotomy 4:20

"there will be a book called the bible , it will be full of shit, only sheep shaleth read it"

the old testament are portions of the Torah almost verbatum... before you get too excided you might want to look up a bit of info