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Old 05-05-2011, 06:17 PM   #1
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When America kills people its cool. When it's brown people not so good.

Am I wrong?

I don't see the difference between a drone attack vs a suicide bomber. Or even a IED vs tank shells. Why is it God's work when America kills and when brown people who just happen to believe in a different God kills it's evil?
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What gives America the right to decide what's good and evil?
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I don't think it has anything to do with Race or whatever country it's coming from my friend.
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What gives America the right to decide what's good and evil?
Being a strong United country. Hints The United States Of America
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What gives America the right to decide what's good and evil?
A large arsenal of nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them. Really,what's the point of being a superpower if you can't flaunt it from time to time.
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Its called might is right.

The one who has power defines what is terrorism and what is patriotism. Who is freedom fighter and who is terrorist.
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A large arsenal of nuclear weapons and the willingness to use them. Really,what's the point of being a superpower if you can't flaunt it from time to time.
+1

Plus huge collection of state-of-the-art conventional weapons, shit load of tax money to spend on wars etc. etc.

Its all about staying in power. Ruin whatever comes in the way, be it ethics, civil and human rights, or even human lives.

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So can you blame Iran for wanting nuclear weapons?
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Am I wrong?

I don't see the difference between a drone attack vs a suicide bomber. Or even a IED vs tank shells. Why is it God's work when America kills and when brown people who just happen to believe in a different God kills it's evil?
Would you rather Radical Islamic terrorist rule Canada?

Would you rather serve in the military, fight in holy wars, then work in the porn industry?

Your views are seriously screwed up.
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muslims kill the enemy to go to heaven, enemy is america ... actually according to quoran Osama must be in heaven now

America kills people because they think is terrorism (wich is, if u don´t consider the quoran)
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What gives America the right to decide what's good and evil?
What gives the so-called "brown people" the right?

Seriously these views of yours show a great lack of responsibility, a lack of worldly experience, and general lack of maturity.
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So can you blame Iran for wanting nuclear weapons?
I wouldn't blame Al Qaeda for wanting nuclear weapons either.

What does that change?
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Funny thing is there's probably more handwringing here and elsewhere in the west about what happened to Osama than there is in Pakistan or any Arab country (who are generally either anti-Islamist or, in the case of Iran, ideologically divided, and where Osama was pretty much hated and/or even Wanted).

I doubt there's anyone there who is thinking 'poor Osama'. I doubt anyone is even really angry about it, except the usual crackhead followers of 'Al Qaeda'. And, assuming Osama was who he was portrayed as, and not a CIA asset, I doubt he or any of his allies really would expect anything less from the USA, or would have any complaints about how he was taken care of.
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muslims kill the enemy to go to heaven, enemy is america ... actually according to quoran Osama must be in heaven now

America kills people because they think is terrorism (wich is, if u don´t consider the quoran)
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So can you blame Iran for wanting nuclear weapons?
They don't want nuclear weapons. They want nuclear power. In the civilian sense.
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What gives America the right to decide what's good and evil?
yeah you right. Osama kills 3-4K innocent people. Those silly americans get mad about it. Then those silly americans go and kill that 1 person who killed 3-4K people, what gave them the right. What were they thinking. I just don't get it.

I think you totally on to something here, the logic doesn't add up. Clearly both situations are the same
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What gives the so-called "brown people" the right?

Seriously these views of yours show a great lack of responsibility, a lack of worldly experience, and general lack of maturity.
Uhhh did you just say that?

The idea is that nobody has the right, idiot. Why are you hopping on the defensive so quick against brown people?

You must be one of those racists still angry that a black man is his leader.

You need to apologize to Martin and then give your mind a few years to age and then MAYBE just MAYBE you'll understand what he's talking about.

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I wouldn't blame Al Qaeda for wanting nuclear weapons either.

What does that change?
It changes everything, why put sanctions on a country if all the want is equality? An opportunity to have their voices heard? Sounds dumb to me!

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yeah you right. Osama kills 3-4K innocent people. Those silly americans get mad about it. Then those silly americans go and kill that 1 person who killed 3-4K people, what gave them the right. What were they thinking. I just don't get it.

I think you totally on to something here, the logic doesn't add up. Clearly both situations are the same
Osama didn't actually kill anyone himself. He ordered it. Just the same as hundreds of millions of Americans vote for and SUPPORT and FUND operations like the one in 1945 when you guys killed tens of thousands of innocent Japanese.

So now you guys have killed hundreds of thousands vs Osama's thousands.

Yeah, silly Americans. Don't pretend like you 'silly Americans' aren't the #1 murderers on the planet.

Don't pretend like Americans aren't #1 when it comes to killing children in bombings. You guys are all that's wrong with the world and it seems EVERYONE knows it except for you 'silly Americans'.

PLEASE don't use the word logic again will it just doesn't fit with the way you think.
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Uhhh did you just say that?

The idea is that nobody has the right, idiot. Why are you hopping on the defensive so quick against brown people?

You must be one of those racists still angry that a black man is his leader.

You need to apologize to Martin and then give your mind a few years to age and then MAYBE just MAYBE you'll understand what he's talking about.

Eat crow moron, this angry white man voted for Obama.

You and Martin are two peas in a pod.
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Eat crow moron, this angry white man voted for Obama.

You and Martin are two peas in a pod.
And you are one shit in an asshole.

Really though, it's funny because of the ignorance of you average American (you).

You think that no one else thinks that way but the reality is THE WHOLE WORLD DOES.

Except for Canada, Israel and the US, every country in the world thinks that America should mind their own business and stop getting into people's shit. They know that America is the leading murderer of people in the world, they know that you guys are the greediest bunch around and that you'll kill if it means saving a little money.

The world has no respect for Americans and it's because of people like you.

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The real questions is....

Has Canada actually ever stepped up the plate or have they always been the little girly sister hiding behind America?

;)

With that I shall leave you better then me, self righteous, pompous Canadian to argue amongst yourselves.
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The real questions is....

Has Canada actually ever stepped up the plate or have they always been the little girly sister hiding behind America?

;)

With that I shall leave you better then me, self righteous, pompous Canadian to argue amongst yourselves.
We don't need to step up to the plate, you guys do a perfectly good job of doing our dirty work.

When it was time for the hard stuff we mobilized like in WWII and we showed you Americans how it's done. What heroic thing did Americans do in WWII aside from murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians??
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We don't need to step up to the plate, you guys do a perfectly good job of doing our dirty work.

When it was time for the hard stuff we mobilized like in WWII and we showed you Americans how it's done. What heroic thing did Americans do in WWII aside from murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians??
Now my friends that is arrogance at it's finest.

I hope all of your fellow Canadians share your views, cause if not you sure are making them look bad.

G night fine sir! LOL
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We don't need to step up to the plate, you guys do a perfectly good job of doing our dirty work.
So are you calling Canadians Hypocrites? Because if we do your dirty work, then you blame us for everything, that is... umm... Hypocritical....

ok ok I'm done for now.. LOL
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So are you calling Canadians Hypocrites? Because if we do your dirty work, then you blame us for everything, that is... umm... Hypocritical....

ok ok I'm done for now.. LOL
If all you did was Canada's dirty work then there would be no wars right now. Unlike the US, Canada doesn't randomly look for people to kill.

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Now my friends that is arrogance at it's finest.

I hope all of your fellow Canadians share your views, cause if not you sure are making them look bad.

G night fine sir! LOL
Doesn't take a lot to tell a diamond from a piece of shit. It's not arrogance when it's so obvious.

Good night!

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Might makes right. You should know that by now.
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yeah you right. Osama kills 3-4K innocent people. Those silly americans get mad about it. Then those silly americans go and kill that 1 person who killed 3-4K people, what gave them the right. What were they thinking. I just don't get it.

I think you totally on to something here, the logic doesn't add up. Clearly both situations are the same
it's not as simple as you make it sound, it's not just event A, followed by event B...
the whole situation is complex, going back decades, one could write whole books about it...
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yeah you right. Osama kills 3-4K innocent people. Those silly americans get mad about it. Then those silly americans go and kill that 1 person who killed 3-4K people, what gave them the right. What were they thinking. I just don't get it.

I think you totally on to something here, the logic doesn't add up. Clearly both situations are the same
Thanks for going one step backward, but let's connect the dots backward, one step further.

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? Osama bin Laden, 2004
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Osama didn't do the right thing, so did the US by mass bombing Afghanistan.

Be it crashing planes into to towers, bombing towers, carpet bombing, suicide bombing or drone attacks. Whatever that kills innocent civilians is condemnable. No one should have right to kill anyone, based on his understanding/perception/belief of right or wrong.. be its Al-Qaida or US.
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asking questions about moral relativity on gfy will always produce the same completely predictable result.
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result = none
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Ummm... you really need to ask this?

You do know that on the other side of the fight, they're the heros who are killing Americans, and us white folk are the evil assholes invading their lands, right?

You think it's the other way around, because you're on the Western world's side. You do know that right?
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pretty sure that's how things have been decided for thousands of years.
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My heart goes out to those that lost family during the war but personally I didn't jump for joy or run to facebook and cheer when the news broke out about osama. I feel indifferent about the whole thing. At the end of the day, even if I had an opinion about it, it doesn't matter other than for what we're all doing right now, shooting the shit.

There's a lot of horrible stuff going on all over the place, if you ever visit the young news channel you'll lose faith in most of humanity rather quickly.

In all respect I didn't lose anyone in 9-11 or in the war so I don't know what a lot of you have had to go through emotionally. Again, I respect everyone's opinion, but personally I guess I am just ignorant.

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When America kills people its cool. When it's brown people not so good.
A 'darkie' is the leader of the U.S. and I am not sure what percentage makes up all of the Arabs, Mexicans and blacks of the U.S. but it's a significant percentage.

I am guessing you are referring to political groups & their ideologies more than a race.
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In all respect I didn't lose anyone in 9-11 or in the war so I don't know what a lot of you have had to go through emotionally. Again, I respect everyone's opinion, but personally I guess I am just ignorant.
I don't know you, but you sound like a good person.
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Hmmm, a black guy gave the order to kill a brown guy
Or, a Muslim guy gave the order to kill a Muslim guy.
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A 'darkie' is the leader of the U.S. and I am not sure what percentage makes up all of the Arabs, Mexicans and blacks of the U.S. but it's a significant percentage.

I am guessing you are referring to political groups & their ideologies more than a race.
Well of couse. Obama is a puppet of the empire.
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I don't see the difference between a drone attack vs a suicide bomber. Or even a IED vs tank shells. Why is it God's work when America kills and when brown people who just happen to believe in a different God kills it's evil?
You are wrong.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:49 PM   #43
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And you are one shit in an asshole.

Really though, it's funny because of the ignorance of you average American (you).

You think that no one else thinks that way but the reality is THE WHOLE WORLD DOES.

Except for Canada, Israel and the US, every country in the world thinks that America should mind their own business and stop getting into people's shit. They know that America is the leading murderer of people in the world, they know that you guys are the greediest bunch around and that you'll kill if it means saving a little money.

The world has no respect for Americans and it's because of people like you.

here is the truth. Every other country in the word begs for our MONEY and our GUNS.

If america pulled all its forces back and stopped giving rag heads money to unfuck their own tribal despotisms, nobody would ever fuck with us because they would know full well we'd come and kill them, innocents and combatents alike.

But the truth is, they wouldnt give a fuck about all the vagina pacifist countries in the world, and you'd all be begging for us to use our bombs again and 'Set things right'

The amount of people America has killed in the middle east pales in comparison to the amount of people killed in the middle east by other people in the middle east.

In fact, Americans don't even want to be in the middle of whatever god awful desert people call home over there, in jungles or whatever. We just want you to make the shit we contract for, and DO IT ON TIME INSTEAD OF KILLING YOURSELVES.


Know why we are in Libya? because the french and italians dont have 40 year old weapons tech called Tomahawk missiles, so guess who has to do THEIR job for them.


Every time its the same fucking thing. wa wa wa, the white man kills our children (they were coincidentally walking around with AK-47s) , its all their fault. Look at your own corrupt leader ship and do something about it.

Do you think we WANT to come and blow things up, and waste TRILLIONS of dollars!? Gimmi a break. the average american wants to eat potato chips drink beers and watch porno.
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They don't want nuclear weapons. They want nuclear power. In the civilian sense.
Ya sure, and pakistan didnt know where Osama was.... because his palatial estate was too large to keep accurate tabs of which house/room he was in at any given time.
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here is the truth. Every other country in the word begs for our MONEY and our GUNS.

If america pulled all its forces back and stopped giving rag heads money to unfuck their own tribal despotisms, nobody would ever fuck with us because they would know full well we'd come and kill them, innocents and combatents alike.

But the truth is, they wouldnt give a fuck about all the vagina pacifist countries in the world, and you'd all be begging for us to use our bombs again and 'Set things right'

The amount of people America has killed in the middle east pales in comparison to the amount of people killed in the middle east by other people in the middle east.

In fact, Americans don't even want to be in the middle of whatever god awful desert people call home over there, in jungles or whatever. We just want you to make the shit we contract for, and DO IT ON TIME INSTEAD OF KILLING YOURSELVES.


Know why we are in Libya? because the french and italians dont have 40 year old weapons tech called Tomahawk missiles, so guess who has to do THEIR job for them.


Every time its the same fucking thing. wa wa wa, the white man kills our children (they were coincidentally walking around with AK-47s) , its all their fault. Look at your own corrupt leader ship and do something about it.

Do you think we WANT to come and blow things up, and waste TRILLIONS of dollars!? Gimmi a break. the average american wants to eat potato chips drink beers and watch porno.
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I couldnt have said it any better.

"We just want you to make the shit we contract for, and DO IT ON TIME INSTEAD OF KILLING YOURSELVES."

So true.
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Can't we all just take satisfaction in knowing that people are dying, every day, in masses. This brings warmth and joy to my heart We're all a plague on this planet, the more people dead, the better things will be for those who are left in the end.
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Am I wrong?

I don't see the difference between a drone attack vs a suicide bomber. Or even a IED vs tank shells. Why is it God's work when America kills and when brown people who just happen to believe in a different God kills it's evil?
A suicide bomber does what he does not because he cannot afford a tank or weapon of equal cost, he does what he does because because he wants to inflict as much damage as possible in the most horrific way possible.

a drone attack or tank is used because it is the most efficient way to kill someone, and typically with as little collateral damage is possible.

It would be evil if we used nuclear weapons to expedite the problem by wiping everyone out in the area, or perhaps numerous daisy cutters. That sir, would be the same as a suicide bomber.
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Would you rather Radical Islamic terrorist rule Canada?

Would you rather serve in the military, fight in holy wars, then work in the porn industry?

Your views are seriously screwed up.
They're not screwed up as much as taking a page out of an intro to philosophy class. The whole "who are you to" argument is nothing but a cop out. Moral and cultural relativism are hilarious.
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A suicide bomber does what he does not because he cannot afford a tank or weapon of equal cost, he does what he does because because he wants to inflict as much damage as possible in the most horrific way possible
You are just making shit up... How do you know why they do what they do?

It's not like they are evenly matched, can afford same weapons, etc and choose to pursue primitive tactics like suicide bombing...

I'm pretty sure IF they happen to be more powerful, they would just take over the world and wouldn't blow themselves up like a bunch of idiots...

but they are not, so they either have to give up, lose, or resort to primitive tactics...
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