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Old 04-15-2011, 09:45 AM   #1
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Introducing Webair High Availability Fully Managed Cloud Servers!

Introducing Webair High Availability Fully Managed Cloud Servers!


WEBAIR Fully Managed Cloud Server Solutions offer truly dedicated and protected resources while eliminating all single points of failure! All Webair Cloud Servers receive guaranteed resources including CPU, Memory, Network Bandwidth, and IOps.


WEBAIR High Availability Cloud Server Features:


* CLOUD HARDWARE:
Each Cloud host utilizes cutting edge server technology featuring dual hexacore processors, hundreds of gigabytes of ram, redundant PSUs and RAID controllers.


*HA SAN DISK:
Your data is stored on a fault tolerant high performance enterprise SAN. Your cloud server can take full advantage of the high speed and reliability previously gained only with expensive dedicated enterprise storage solutions. Your Cloud server's data is stored across multiple physical SAN nodes providing maximum redundancy.


*HIGH AVAILABILITY:
Our cloud computing infrastructure harnesses the fault tolerance of enterprise grade hypervisors to keep your cloud servers up and running without downtime! There are no single points of failure with our cloud hosting infrastructure.


*DISTRIBUTED RESOURCE ENVIRONMENT:
Distributed resource scheduling dynamically analyzes and adjusts computing workloads for each host to ensure that our servers are never overloaded!


*UPGRADABLE TO ADDITIONAL vCPUs:
Our Cloud servers allow your computing workload to be executed in parallel across multiple VCPU cores.


*GUARANTEED/LIMITED MEMORY:
Our Cloud servers include minimum guaranteed resources to make sure capacity is not oversold.


*INSTANTLY UPGRADABLE TO HIGHER PLAN:
One click upgrades allow you to change plans with the click of a button and a reboot of your cloud server.



ALL WEBAIR CLOUD SERVER Plans Include:
  • Fully Managed Server
  • FREE Webair Control Panel
  • FREE e-commerce Software
  • One Click Wordpress Installs
  • 24x7x365 Live Technical Support & so much more!


WEBAIR CLOUD SERVER hosting is a better option than a single dedicated server as it allows you to take advantage of increased scalability, automation, and efficiency with NO single points of failure!


Contact us to get setup on the CLOUD TODAY! ~ [email protected]
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Was great seeing you guys at Ad Tech and the Marketers Ball
WHAT A SHOW!

The exposure and response we received form sponsoring has been amazing. Giving the mainstream side a taste of what you do seems to have really paid off.

Can't say enough about it. GOOD JOB MAN!!!

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WEBAIR Fully Managed Cloud Server Solutions offer truly dedicated and protected resources while eliminating all single points of failure! All Webair Cloud Servers receive guaranteed resources including CPU, Memory, Network Bandwidth, and IOps.


WEBAIR High Availability Cloud Server Features:


* CLOUD HARDWARE:
Each Cloud host utilizes cutting edge server technology featuring dual hexacore processors, hundreds of gigabytes of ram, redundant PSUs and RAID controllers.


*HA SAN DISK:
Your data is stored on a fault tolerant high performance enterprise SAN. Your cloud server can take full advantage of the high speed and reliability previously gained only with expensive dedicated enterprise storage solutions. Your Cloud server's data is stored across multiple physical SAN nodes providing maximum redundancy.


*HIGH AVAILABILITY:
Our cloud computing infrastructure harnesses the fault tolerance of enterprise grade hypervisors to keep your cloud servers up and running without downtime! There are no single points of failure with our cloud hosting infrastructure.


*DISTRIBUTED RESOURCE ENVIRONMENT:
Distributed resource scheduling dynamically analyzes and adjusts computing workloads for each host to ensure that our servers are never overloaded!


*UPGRADABLE TO ADDITIONAL vCPUs:
Our Cloud servers allow your computing workload to be executed in parallel across multiple VCPU cores.


*GUARANTEED/LIMITED MEMORY:
Our Cloud servers include minimum guaranteed resources to make sure capacity is not oversold.


*INSTANTLY UPGRADABLE TO HIGHER PLAN:
One click upgrades allow you to change plans with the click of a button and a reboot of your cloud server.



ALL WEBAIR CLOUD SERVER Plans Include:
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  • FREE Webair Control Panel
  • FREE e-commerce Software
  • One Click Wordpress Installs
  • 24x7x365 Live Technical Support & so much more!


WEBAIR CLOUD SERVER hosting is a better option than a single dedicated server as it allows you to take advantage of increased scalability, automation, and efficiency with NO single points of failure!


Contact us to get setup on the CLOUD TODAY! ~ [email protected]

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WOW, sounds like a very cool set up
It is...

Let me explain how so...

A traditional dedicated server has many single points of failure, 1 box with 1 PSU, motherboard, 1 hard drive, or 1 raid set, load balancer, etc.. & not much as far as auto scalability / expansion.

Our NEW cloud servers have no single points of failure, and you are guaranteed resources in the same way as if you had a physical dedicated server, only the resources are scaleable!
Never deal with dead hard disks, servers that cant take any more drives or ram. Built virtual networks between your cloud servers quickly & easily!

In combination with extremely high disk I/o speeds, since your data is being stored across hundreds of drives instead of just a few, your site speeds will be faster than ever!


More to come!

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Holy fucking shit those prices are out of line. With Webair tech support's stellar (LOL) track record people would be better off getting an Amazon S3 account and hiring an ala-carte system admin.
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Not really when you factor in that these machines are using the latest and greatest technology. With no single points of failure, its a win for the client! No issues with data storage, no issues with losing data, no issues with ram. The CPU is powerful and the system runs great!

Unlike other cloud server offerings, Webair Cloud Servers are FULLY MANAGED! How can you beat that!
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It is...

Let me explain how so...

A traditional dedicated server has many single points of failure, 1 box with 1 PSU, motherboard, 1 hard drive, or 1 raid set, load balancer, etc.. & not much as far as auto scalability / expansion.

Our NEW cloud servers have no single points of failure, and you are guaranteed resources in the same way as if you had a physical dedicated server, only the resources are scaleable!
Never deal with dead hard disks, servers that cant take any more drives or ram. Built virtual networks between your cloud servers quickly & easily!

In combination with extremely high disk I/o speeds, since your data is being stored across hundreds of drives instead of just a few, your site speeds will be faster than ever!


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Holy fucking shit those prices are out of line. With Webair tech support's stellar (LOL) track record people would be better off getting an Amazon S3 account and hiring an ala-carte system admin.
Yea.. Good Luck with that. If you are not a server guru it's difficult to set it up. Not to mention it's not a managed solution, ours is =) Additionally, we are selling a fully redundant service with no single point of failure. Amazon's instances run on local disk on 1 node each, no redundancy. We are backing it up with an industry standard SLA, Amazon does not provide this at all, go read their SLA. Amazon is an infrastructure provider, not a managed services provider, we are not selling infrastructure.
If you know how to install and manage operating systems and web services & want to utilize their infrastructure to build out / manage / control your own redundancy, be my guest! That's a business decision you have to make.
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Considering we invested well over a million dollars into the first phase of it, I sure hope not!!! =)

You can read more in-depth technical info here: http://www.webair.com/webhosting-cloud-servers.html

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CLOUD SYSTEMS ARCHITECTURE - Each Cloud host utilizes cutting edge server technology featuring dual hexacore processors, hundreds of gigabytes of ram, redundant PSUs and RAID controllers.

HA SAN DISK - Your data is stored on a fault tolerant high performance enterprise SAN. Your cloud server can take full advantage of the high speed and reliability previously gained only with expensive dedicated enterprise storage solutions. Your Cloud server's data is stored across multiple physical SAN nodes providing maximum redundancy.

HIGH AVAILABILITY - Our cloud computing infrastructure harnesses the fault tolerance of enterprise grade hypervisors to keep your cloud servers up and running without downtime! There are no single points of failure with our cloud hosting infrastructure!

DISTRIBUTED RESOURCE ENVIRONMENT - Distributed resource scheduling dynamically analyzes and adjusts computing workloads for each host to ensure that our servers are never overloaded!

UPGRADABLE TO ADDITIONAL vCPUs - Our Cloud servers allow your computing workload to be executed in parallel across multiple VCPU cores.

GUARANTEED/LIMITED MEMORY - Our Cloud servers include minimum guaranteed resources to make sure capacity is not oversold.

INSTANTLY UPGRADABLE TO HIGHER PLAN - One click upgrades allow you to change plans with the click of a button and a reboot of your cloud server.


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I've been researching cloud vs dedicated hosting and I'm still not sold...

anyone else going with cloud hosting for their high-b/w custom cam or tube sites?

Any factual info (not just sales pitch) from webair on why this would be the best choice for a custom cam site like MFC?
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Someone said this is the future of music and movie distribution - Cloud I mean.

And AdamX if you have ever had a server crash on you before and wished you had backups of like 4 TB of movie files, you would so seriously appreciate webair's cloud servers.
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I'm reviewing solutions for a custom cam site project..

think ye ol dedicated setup is still best?
click the high availability or performance tab
http://www.rackspace.com/managed_hos...edia/index.php

or cloud setup
http://www.rackspace.com/hosting_solutions.php

mind you I'm just comparing rackspace for reference, they're pretty top notch but I don't want to live under their strict guidelines and high prices.. checking into webair.

Cloud or Traditional Dedicated and why? Why do I feel a cloud setup will be unsecure? or am I just insecure? ha.

Curious if anyone else is using the tech for a high traffic cam site. Webair, anyone?
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I've been researching cloud vs dedicated hosting and I'm still not sold...

anyone else going with cloud hosting for their high-b/w custom cam or tube sites?

Any factual info (not just sales pitch) from webair on why this would be the best choice for a custom cam site like MFC?
It wouldn't be a good choice at all. VPS is great for someone who has outgrown a virtual account but isn't quite ready for a dedicated. Webair is trying to brand their VPS like it's white and fluffy but it's just a VPS. If your I/O gets too high you will get termed from a VPS host.

A true cloud host can scale up and down on demand, adjust storage sizes, etc. Amazon's AWS is a true cloud provider. I manage a large snack/gift type site. They used to cripple multiple dedicated servers every holiday season but then have to choose between paying for the infrastructure in the off season or scaling up for a few months out of the year. On AWS we can automatically add servers and then serve catalog images via a CDN when the need arises. Right now hosting costs are a fraction of what they are in the holiday months. If traffic spikes, the new instances will be launched to meet the demand.

I know AWS well but by the looks of it rackspace is pretty legit too.
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It wouldn't be a good choice at all. VPS is great for someone who has outgrown a virtual account but isn't quite ready for a dedicated. Webair is trying to brand their VPS like it's white and fluffy but it's just a VPS. If your I/O gets too high you will get termed from a VPS host.

A true cloud host can scale up and down on demand, adjust storage sizes, etc. Amazon's AWS is a true cloud provider. I manage a large snack/gift type site. They used to cripple multiple dedicated servers every holiday season but then have to choose between paying for the infrastructure in the off season or scaling up for a few months out of the year. On AWS we can automatically add servers and then serve catalog images via a CDN when the need arises. Right now hosting costs are a fraction of what they are in the holiday months. If traffic spikes, the new instances will be launched to meet the demand.

I know AWS well but by the looks of it rackspace is pretty legit too.

3 questions
How safe/secure is site data if its spread across so many hard drives with everyone elses data?

How much i/o can webairs offering stand before it buckles? I will talk to support personally but for this thread lets see some responses based on experience.

Can I run FMS (flash media server) on a cloud linux box with an alexa ranking of 200? basically shit-tons of traffic and loads of people viewing cams.. imagine streamate or MFC. Yay, Nay?
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How safe/secure is site data if its spread across so many hard drives with everyone elses data?

How much i/o can webairs offering stand before it buckles? I will talk to support personally but for this thread lets see some responses based on experience.

Can I run FMS (flash media server) on a cloud linux box with an alexa ranking of 200? basically shit-tons of traffic and loads of people viewing cams.. imagine streamate or MFC. Yay, Nay?
Data will be much safer spread across multiple drives. Redundancy is never a bad thing. Security is as good as a dedicated server. Your storage will look and behave like a regular dedicated drive.

Every host is different on I/O. I've heard of people getting dropped from big hosts who are notorious for overselling (not naming names but their name rhymes with yo baddie) for doing basic MySQL queries or serving lots of images thus raising their I/O. Other more reliable VPS providers won't TOS you unless you're doing something that really causes trouble. For instance, Linode will send out a warning if your I/O gets too high for a given period. You need to correct it ASAP or you run the risk of getting the boot. If your node starts swapping or really thrashing the drive for some reason they will shut you down to protect the other customers on the same server.

True cloud providers like amazon will charge you for both allocated space and I/O. They don't care if you get crazy with the I/O but to keep your costs low it would be wise to keep your I/O in check.

As for streaming, I have no idea how it all works. I have zero experience with streaming. Doesn't FMS require a lot of ram? I can't see any reason for you to move to a VPS honestly. I'd stick to true dedicated servers. You can flog your servers as hard as you want and nobody is going to yell at you.
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Nice timing on this thread. Amazon's US-EAST-1 region is acting up right now. Apparently it has been for quite some time. About an hour ago I got an automated email telling me that a second instance had been automatically started on us-west-1 and the instance on us-east was dead. We haven't experienced a second of downtime due to an outage. Content being served via the cloudfront cdn isn't affected at all. Cloud hosting is awesome for times like this.
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I will address all of the relevant responses directly with one reply. If i miss something please feel free to let me know =)

A cloud server does not replace a well designed architecture. If a site is getting a lot of traffic you may still require multiple cloud servers to handle the loads. Again, we are selling a fully redundant cloud service with no single point of failure. Amazon's instances run on local disk on 1 node each, no redundancy. We are backing it up with an industry standard SLA, Amazon does not provide this at all, this is where we differ.

Adam, you can can absolutely run FMS on a cloud linux machine with an alexa ranking of 200 - You will just need multiple cloud servers, and load balancing to facilitate it, depending upon your traffic patterns.

No offense, but posts like Babaganoosh are based on misinformation. Our infastructure is identical to ec2, while we don't have the automation they do (yet), the architecture is more or less identical. Customers can scale their cloud servers up and down with only a reboot. The billing methods may be different but the methodology & technology is primarily the same.
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A cloud server does not replace a well designed architecture. If a site is getting a lot of traffic you may still require multiple cloud servers to handle the loads. Again, we are selling a fully redundant cloud service with no single point of failure. Amazon's instances run on local disk on 1 node each, no redundancy. We are backing it up with an industry standard SLA, Amazon does not provide this at all, this is where we differ.

Adam, you can can absolutely run FMS on a cloud linux machine with an alexa ranking of 200 - You will just need multiple cloud servers, and load balancing to facilitate it, depending upon your traffic patterns.

No offense, but posts like Babaganoosh are based on misinformation. Our infastructure is identical to ec2, while we don't have the automation they do (yet), the architecture is more or less identical. Customers can scale their cloud servers up and down with only a reboot. The billing methods may be different but the methodology & technology is primarily the same.
Now you're intentionally posting incorrect information. Pretty scummy. Amazon's instances can and should use EBS which is completely redundant.

http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/
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Now you're intentionally posting incorrect information. Pretty scummy. Amazon's instances can and should use EBS which is completely redundant.

http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/
What information did i post that was incorrect?

I agree with you 100% you can use EBS! (which is an additional service mind you). Amazon provides you with low level raw infrastructure for which you have to manage and integrate yourself. This is great for large companies who have in house IT resources.
Amazon is great for raw infastructure, in fact we plan on use them for some additional and new servies in the future, along with some other larger cloud infrastructure providers.

ONCE AGAIN, We are not selling infrastructure, we are selling a fully managed redundant product for which traditional web masters can use and manage in the same way they've been doing so with traditional hosting.

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Nice timing on this thread. Amazon's US-EAST-1 region is acting up right now. Apparently it has been for quite some time. About an hour ago I got an automated email telling me that a second instance had been automatically started on us-west-1 and the instance on us-east was dead. We haven't experienced a second of downtime due to an outage. Content being served via the cloudfront cdn isn't affected at all. Cloud hosting is awesome for times like this.
My point exactly!!! It all comes down to redundancy. Amazon has been having issues since 2am last night!

Jason Glassberg, co-founder of security outfit Casaba LLC, called the issue "a big ol' black eye" for Amazon.
"Reliability is probably the No. 1 concern with cloud services," he said. "Amazon has worked long and hard to convince folks that their services were robust. This does not help the cause."

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What information did i post that was incorrect?
You KNOW (I hope you know anyway) that EBS is how you run a web server on AWS. To imply that they don't have redundant storage is complete and utter bullshit. Sell your services but don't lie to people.

And yes, Amazon has had massive trouble today. I still haven't had any downtime despite a huge chunk of a datacenter being down. If that's not redundancy I don't know what is.
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You KNOW (I hope you know anyway) that EBS is how you run a web server on AWS. To imply that they don't have redundant storage is complete and utter bullshit. Sell your services but don't lie to people.

And yes, Amazon has had massive trouble today. I still haven't had any downtime despite a huge chunk of a datacenter being down. If that's not redundancy I don't know what is.
Babaganoosh, the point is that with Amazon these are all piecemeal services that you have to integrate and manage on your own. You simply cannot compare a purely infrastructure product with a managed services solutions, its apples and oranges. As Mike mentioned Amazon is great for raw infrastructure and we plan on using them for some additional and new services in the future, along with some other larger cloud infrastructure providers.
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I have 2 dedicated boxes at webair right now. Is there any reason not to switch to the cloud?
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Let's schedule some time to speak about your current setup and Cloud Servers. Talk to you soon.
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It wouldn't be a good choice at all. VPS is great for someone who has outgrown a virtual account but isn't quite ready for a dedicated. Webair is trying to brand their VPS like it's white and fluffy but it's just a VPS. If your I/O gets too high you will get termed from a VPS host.

A true cloud host can scale up and down on demand, adjust storage sizes, etc. Amazon's AWS is a true cloud provider. I manage a large snack/gift type site. They used to cripple multiple dedicated servers every holiday season but then have to choose between paying for the infrastructure in the off season or scaling up for a few months out of the year. On AWS we can automatically add servers and then serve catalog images via a CDN when the need arises. Right now hosting costs are a fraction of what they are in the holiday months. If traffic spikes, the new instances will be launched to meet the demand.

I know AWS well but by the looks of it rackspace is pretty legit too.
amazon is used by a lot of people these days (their cloud) about 90% of marketers that sell downloads.
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amazon is used by a lot of people these days (their cloud) about 90% of marketers that sell downloads.
I see them linking to their S3 buckets a lot but I don't know how many are using any other services.
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Nice move guys.

For me I like that cloud resolves faster in different locations. I just don't like the slew of new problems that still needs to be worked out.

Mainly I also don't like relying on several DC's and more point of failures.

We have two DC's we use one we partially own and control almost everything now. I couldn't imagine getting rid of that control all over again! lol

I hope it goes well and way to stay on top of things.

For now redundant global dns is good for us.
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what SAN are you guys using?
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Danny, For cloud storage we use EMC Isilon and EMC.
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Looks like a great product, congratulations on release!

I am very interested in this and will put together some questions I will need answered before moving forward with anything. It's interesting with the amazon issues now too some of my clients are looking at alternatives.

I have some smaller clients who may not warrant an actual cloud server yet. If they start with one of your VPS plans, is it possible to convert or upgrade them to a cloud server? What will our options be at that point?
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Danny, For cloud storage we use EMC Isilon and EMC.
Very nice.
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Looks like a great product, congratulations on release!

I am very interested in this and will put together some questions I will need answered before moving forward with anything. It's interesting with the amazon issues now too some of my clients are looking at alternatives.

I have some smaller clients who may not warrant an actual cloud server yet. If they start with one of your VPS plans, is it possible to convert or upgrade them to a cloud server? What will our options be at that point?
Awesome, feel free to post them here I will address them accordingly.

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Yes, with the Webair VSYS™ platform upgrading, or changing plans is seamless. You can easily upgrade or downgrade via the Webair control panel, or by simply opening a ticket.

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