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Old 05-17-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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Gas Prices In America Is So............

Cheap.


Here's some figures of average gas prices around the globe. You guys have it good, well compared to many of us anyway. These are in pence, and per litre:


UK - 136p litre

America - 51p litre




And the most expensive:

Turkey - 164p

Norway - 161p

Holland - 152p

Germany - 144p

And the rest of Europe isn't far behind. Luxembourg is the cheapest.

The UK gets taxed more than anywhere else. Once duty and VAT are taken off the British price, it comes down to just 55.7p per litre, instead of the 136p we pay.



Some places have it good though. The CHEAPEST places are :

Venezuela - 1.4p per litre

Saudia Arabia - 9.7p

Qatar - 11.6p

Kuwait - 14.3p


Sucks!

You Americans still don't know the meaning of expensive gas though...
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You Scots don't know the meaning of a "big country" though. ;-)

Comparing gas prices, country to country, doesn't make sense. Too many factors involved. No matter what country you live in and no matter what price you are used to paying, doubling in price is going to have a huge impact.
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You Scots don't know the meaning of a "big country" though. ;-)
I understand that but, how often do Americans HAVE to travel long distances really? Surely most would try and find jobs which aren't a huge distance away, and family etc can't be spread all over America just because it's a "big country" ?

Even if Scotland was bigger, i'm not sure how that would affect how far i need to travel for work, or how far do my friends and family live.

Curious how many miles many people in America actually do in a week, just to try and compare it a bit better, and then we could see if you really DO pay roughly the same in cost for gas, considering we are more than double the price over here...
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I'm assuming wagers aren't high in Turkey so kind of feel sorry for them...
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when i moved back to new orleans gas here was still 2.50 a gallon or so, its 4 dollars now in less than 4 years
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I understand that but, how often do Americans HAVE to travel long distances really? Surely most would try and find jobs which aren't a huge distance away, and family etc can't be spread all over America just because it's a "big country" ?

Even if Scotland was bigger, i'm not sure how that would affect how far i need to travel for work, or how far do my friends and family live.

Curious how many miles many people in America actually do in a week, just to try and compare it a bit better, and then we could see if you really DO pay roughly the same in cost for gas, considering we are more than double the price over here...
Driving 30 minutes to over an hour, both ways, to work is not all that uncommon. And yes, families do live all over the country.

The average is 15,000 miles a year. What kind of average do you guys have?
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do not forget you in scotland may end up with cheaper costs if you get independence as i bet they will lower tax.

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Cheap.


Here's some figures of average gas prices around the globe. You guys have it good, well compared to many of us anyway. These are in pence, and per litre:


UK - 136p litre

America - 51p litre


When you consider that most people in the UK earn twice as much $$ money in thier jobs as they do in the USA it sort of equals out.

Whats more interesting is comparing the price of a Big Mac against the average wage of that country...

Sample . ( online prices because i dont eat at mcdonalds


USA : Big Mac average price $3.73

UK : Big Mac average price $3.70


so the conclusion is that when you also factor in the X2 earnings... brits get to eat thier hamburgers at about half the cost of thier USA counterparts whilst driving that expensive to run car...

Now thats what you call OUTRAGEOUS !!
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Make sure when you convert the US price you only do 3.7 litres per gallon.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters
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The average is 15,000 miles a year. What kind of average do you guys have?
That sounds about average for here aswell to be honest. Not far off that anyway. Which is why i was curious about the miles per year aswell as the cost. So to me, it seems we actually do around the same milage, at double the cost...
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it's almost $1.50 Canadian per liter here.. Roughly $5.55 per US gallon. ($5.55 CND = a little over $5.70US)
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When you consider that most people in the UK earn twice as much $$ money in thier jobs as they do in the USA it sort of equals out.

Whats more interesting is comparing the price of a Big Mac against the average wage of that country...

Sample . ( online prices because i dont eat at mcdonalds


USA : Big Mac average price $3.73

UK : Big Mac average price $3.70


so the conclusion is that when you also factor in the X2 earnings... brits get to eat thier hamburgers at about half the cost of thier USA counterparts whilst driving that expensive to run car...

Now thats what you call OUTRAGEOUS !!
You couldn't be more wrong,

People don't earn 2Xs more in the UK, they just get charged 2 Xs more for everything.

17% sales tax
Anything car related is expensive: petrol, insurance etc. Tax unless you have an eco friendly car.
Anything house related is expensive, property prices, rents, tax again.
Food overall is more expensive.
Cigarettes are atleast $10 per pack.

Then when you look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income

What you just said doesn't ring true at all.

One of the reasons I left the shithole

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do not forget you in scotland may end up with cheaper costs if you get independence as i bet they will lower tax.

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Cheap.

...

You Americans still don't know the meaning of expensive gas though...
Not when your used to it being a certain price and it goes up that much.

One thing to keep in mind smart guy, is in other countries public transportation is HUGE, plus most of you guys drive little 4 baggers in your VWs and BMWs while in the states, most American built (built in Mexico) cars are V6s and V8s. 2 of my cars are V8's, one is a 5.3 liter and the other is a 4.8 liter, don't hear me crying as I was fully aware it would cost $100 bucks to fill up my tank.

Public trans outside of some limited cities like NYC is where the homeless go to hang out. Around where I'm at, I'd never take the public trans bus unless I wanted to catch leprosy... shit, they don't even come within miles of my house
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That's cheap indeed, almost 2$ per liter here...
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I would like to see an "actual" cost comparison with just the price of gas. Taxes or subsidies account for _ _% of the difference in each country?
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We do have it cheap here compared to some places in the world. I would totally take public transportation if it was readily available in my area. The civil engineers seriously f**ked up around here.
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Actually alot of us are grumbling that it is now up near $4/gal. Was 37 cents/gal when I got my lic. Yeah a few years back.

I drove about 30 miles today with my gas hog truck and got 15 miles/gal or cost me $8. Very high.

Yet it would cost you guys about $20 to go 30 miles in a gas hog truck. Unbelievably expensive in Europe to get around.
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Actually alot of us are grumbling that it is now up near $4/gal. Was 37 cents/gal when I got my lic. Yeah a few years back.
I moved to Florida 13 years ago and it was $.69 a gallon. That's really not too far back, but I believe it was also after Clinton opened up our reserves just a little bit.
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I moved to Florida 13 years ago and it was $.69 a gallon. That's really not too far back, but I believe it was also after Clinton opened up our reserves just a little bit.
Yeah that is a nice price. Wasnt too many years ago we were at about $2/gal nationwide. Then $3 the last few years. But you really notice when it goes to $4. Then it is getting expensive. For us Americans anyhow.

Of course we have way more distance to travel than most European countries which is a factor. Plus if things go higher it drives food and trucking costs up. So we would prob have go to war with someone (the American way hehe ) before going much higher.

Edit: Actually we prob are already at war over oil. Why else would we be in the middle east last 20 years.

And prob noone drives gas hog trucks around in Europe getting 15/gal.

Yes I do have a more economical vehicle too.

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Very interesting comparison. You guys do well in fresh bread, fresh cheese (which is actually kind of amazing), wine, imported beer (that is a biggee.. you get triple points ), taxi service, tennis court rental (sorry, couldnt resist ) But that is about it.

You get killed in cigarettes, eating out, gas, clothes : Levis $35 to $85)

Your prime mortgage interest rate is a bit better than the US 4.50% to 5.18%

All in all indeed very high. House cost is almost double for you guys. But rent is about the same.

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Cheap.


Here's some figures of average gas prices around the globe. You guys have it good, well compared to many of us anyway. These are in pence, and per litre:


UK - 136p litre

America - 51p litre




And the most expensive:

Turkey - 164p

Norway - 161p

Holland - 152p

Germany - 144p

And the rest of Europe isn't far behind. Luxembourg is the cheapest.

The UK gets taxed more than anywhere else. Once duty and VAT are taken off the British price, it comes down to just 55.7p per litre, instead of the 136p we pay.



Some places have it good though. The CHEAPEST places are :

Venezuela - 1.4p per litre

Saudia Arabia - 9.7p

Qatar - 11.6p

Kuwait - 14.3p


Sucks!

You Americans still don't know the meaning of expensive gas though...
Yes, but you dont have to drive 60 miles to work on a 6 cylinder car with 93 gas in it. You drive Mr. Bean 2 cylinder cars for 5 miles and thats it.
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When you consider that most people in the UK earn twice as much $$ money in thier jobs as they do in the USA it sort of equals out.

Whats more interesting is comparing the price of a Big Mac against the average wage of that country...

Sample . ( online prices because i dont eat at mcdonalds

USA : Big Mac average price $3.73
UK : Big Mac average price $3.70

so the conclusion is that when you also factor in the X2 earnings... brits get to eat thier hamburgers at about half the cost of thier USA counterparts whilst driving that expensive to run car...

Now thats what you call OUTRAGEOUS !!
Here's the latest Big Mac Index.



http://www.economist.com/node/17257797

Where are you getting these wage #s? How were they calculated?
The only way to accurately compare would be to look at London vS. NYC because a mean US wage would be disproportionately weighted down by the South, rural areas, etc.
I mean, here in Austin, a position of similar seniority and in the same industry as my last NYC would pay about 40% less.
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You couldn't be more wrong,

People don't earn 2Xs more in the UK, they just get charged 2 Xs more for everything.

17% sales tax
Anything car related is expensive: petrol, insurance etc. Tax unless you have an eco friendly car.
Anything house related is expensive, property prices, rents, tax again.
Food overall is more expensive.
Cigarettes are atleast $10 per pack.

Then when you look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income

What you just said doesn't ring true at all.

One of the reasons I left the shithole
Cigarettes are $13 in NYC and about $6-7 in Austin.
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Here downunder, I'm paying AUD$1.49 per litre for petrol, my wife's ciggies are AUD$21.75 for 40 fags and my brand of packaged beer (Carlton Draught) is anything between $45.99 and $34.99 a slab (2 doz.) depending on which supermarket chain is discounting - Aussie dollars are worth around US$1.05 at the moment..... I get paid in USD, but at least all my overheads are also in USD.
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Numbeo was kind of interresting. Not that cool to make money in USD and living in Norway.

Price per Square Meter to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre 1,230.16 $ 5,054.29 $ +310.86 %

Apartments that cheap over there?
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People don't earn 2Xs more in the UK, they just get charged 2 Xs more for everything.

17% sales tax
Where did you get that from ?

VAT is 20% in the UK.
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Gas prices got so high here in Denmark, so I bought a tiny car to commute to the office in. It's fucking stupid, almost 2 EUR pr. litre. WTF!

We need to invade a country and snatch their oil!
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As well as expensive food, electronics, clothes, cars, realty, loans etc...
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:22 AM   #40
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As well as expensive food, electronics, clothes, cars, realty, loans etc...
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:41 AM   #41
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Yes, but you dont have to drive 60 miles to work on a 6 cylinder car with 93 gas in it. You drive Mr. Bean 2 cylinder cars for 5 miles and thats it.
So in the UK we get hammered for being sensible and not sucking up all of the worlds Oil by using stupidly over powered engines that guzzle gas faster than little cars? Cool!
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:45 AM   #42
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Driving 30 minutes to over an hour, both ways, to work is not all that uncommon. And yes, families do live all over the country.

The average is 15,000 miles a year. What kind of average do you guys have?
I live in one of the smallest countries in the world and 15k miles is about avarage, Over 2 bucks per liter.
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So in the UK we get hammered for being sensible and not sucking up all of the worlds Oil by using stupidly over powered engines that guzzle gas faster than little cars? Cool!
in the UK almost 2/3rds of that price is tax, blame your government for taxing it so much...
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:49 AM   #44
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I would like to see an "actual" cost comparison with just the price of gas. Taxes or subsidies account for _ _% of the difference in each country?
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in the UK almost 2/3rds of that price is tax, blame your government for taxing it so much...
That's my point, what are we really comparing, the price of gas or a country's taxes.

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So in the UK we get hammered for being sensible and not sucking up all of the worlds Oil by using stupidly over powered engines that guzzle gas faster than little cars? Cool!

sucks to be you.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:52 AM   #46
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My wife, drives over an hour to and from work per day. She puts on 26k miles a year, drives a 2007 nissan altima with a V6 that requires 92 or better octane.

I drive a full size chevy truck that gets anywhere from 13-15 miles per gallon. I however only drive 3000 miles a year since I work from home. So it pretty much offsets between the 2 of us.

What does all this mean? I dont know...
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Driving 30 minutes to over an hour, both ways, to work is not all that uncommon. And yes, families do live all over the country.

The average is 15,000 miles a year. What kind of average do you guys have?
im personally doing between 18 and 20k miles a year at 1.75 EUROS/litre and im only 20 minutes from the office lol

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Yes, but you dont have to drive 60 miles to work on a 6 cylinder car with 93 gas in it. You drive Mr. Bean 2 cylinder cars for 5 miles and thats it.
Move closer to your job and get a smaller engine. There is really no need to drive a V6 (or 8 or 10) as a daily driver unless you are in construction or something where you need to drive shit around.

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So in the UK we get hammered for being sensible and not sucking up all of the worlds Oil by using stupidly over powered engines that guzzle gas faster than little cars? Cool!
I think it comes down to having enough refineries to make all that oil usable that makes it more expensive but I agree with you that it is stupid to have to rely on heavy gas guzzlers to get around. We should have built our cities that so they don't have to rely on cars to get ANYTHING, suburbs are a stupid inefficient idea.

It's hilarious, In Canada we ship more oil to the US than any other country yet we pay almost double what they pay because instead of building more oil refineries we have been shutting them down. So essentially we send the oil to the US they refine it, mark it up and sell it back to us at a premium, then our government taxes the hell out of it.. Pretty embarrassing to say the least...
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We should have built our cities that so they don't have to rely on cars to get ANYTHING, suburbs are a stupid inefficient idea.
hindsight is 20-20. nobody on the planet thought like this 60 years ago.
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hindsight is 20-20. nobody on the planet thought like this 60 years ago.
Back when gas was .20 cents a gallon, 2 attendants pumped your gas, checked your fluid levels, checked your air pressure then gave you a free promotional drinking glass of some local sports team.

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