What if McCain had won.

[Coup]

quote:
US: myth of the two party system

"The two-party system has given this country the war of Lyndon Johnson, the Watergate of Nixon and the incompetence of Carter. Saying we should keep the two-party system simply because it is working is like saying the Titanic voyage was a success because a few people survived on life rafts."
--Eugene J. McCarthy, 1978

If John McCain were president, we can never be exactly sure what would be happening, but I think we can make some educated speculations.

First of all, the "banksters" would be receiving their carte blanche bailouts and Ben Bernanke would have been re-appointed as Chairman of the Federal Reserve.

Robert Gates would probably still be the secretary of defence and Sarah Palin would be offering late night comedians endless fodder for their monologues.

If John McCain happened to be the one infesting the Oval Office at this time, single-payer health care would surely be "off the table". I am confident that a health care "reform" bill probably would have contained massive giveaways to the insurance and big pharmaceutical industries, with no "robust" public option.

We citizens would, I?m sure, have been forced to purchase insurance from the very same insurance companies that spread out a largess of nearly $170m lobbying dollars to Congress in 2009. If we are one of the "lucky ones" that happen to already have coverage, we would have been taxed for the benefit.

McCain and 'justice'

Without a doubt, McCain?s Justice Department would be protecting war criminals - like John Yoo - of the preceding administration and the McCain Department of Justice (DOJ) would probably be vigorously defending the discriminatory practise of Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for the military.

More than likely, under this nightmarish scenario, McCain?s Federal Bureau of Investigation would be committing home invasion break-ins (designated as "legal raids") to intimidate activists.

McCain probably would have given himself the power to be judge and jury over any American citizen that didn?t approve of his foreign policy.

There is not even a shadow of doubt that McCain would be feigning strictness with Israel, while turning a blind eye to the continued expansions of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the completely immoral and destructive blockade of Gaza.

If the unthinkable occurred and McCain beat Obama in 2008, official unemployment would be hovering around 10 per cent (unofficial around 20 per cent). And one in every five homes would be in danger of being foreclosed upon. We might even be experiencing the widest income disparity between the rich and poor that we have seen since before the stock market crash of 1929!

McCain, being the "brave" military man, may have tripled troop deployments to Afghanistan and the needless deaths of US troops and Afghan civilians would probably have increased dramatically. I am sure that McCain would have given huge contracts to the US war machine for drones, mercenaries, airplanes and other military hardware.

Being a loyal Bushite, McCain would probably be conscientiously following the Status of Forces Agreement for the slow withdrawal from Iraq that was negotiated between the Bush government, and the puppet regime in Iraq.

At least we aren't bombing Iran!

I get informed all the time, that even though "Obama isn?t so great", at least he hasn?t invaded Iran yet, and McCain surely would have been bombing Iran by now.

Okay so rhetoric towards Iran would be heigtened, but whether McCain would have waged another military campaign during the current political climate would be an assumption too far.

Gosh, if McCain were president right now, the defense budget might be the largest - $741.2bn - since World War II. He might have even asked for billions upon billions of supplemental funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Horrors!

Of course, a McCain education budget would only be about 1/10th of the defense budget at $78bn. And, a McCain education plan would probably contain lots of rigorous testing if the states were to want more desperately needed funds.

If McCain were president, there would be an active "anti-war" movement. However - as during the Bush years - the "movement" wouldn?t be so much antiwar, but anti-war waged by the Republicans. The anti-Republican movement wants no systemic change, it just wants Democrats in office.

Blurring the political divide

However in almost every case, Democrat equals the status quo.

Of course, in all of my above scenarios, Obama and his regime have done all of those things that people were afraid that McCain would do, but there?s an extremely small outcry.

Here we are, once again, careening madly down the path to electoral ruin?where voting for the "lesser of two evils" has become a national pastime.

When the elite class gives the appearance of only two choices on the ballot, we end up voting "against" a candidate far more times than we vote "for" someone.

What?s wrong with us? We are lazy, we are fearful, the establishment beats us down, we are ignorant, and we are defeated. Voting at least gives us the latent feeling that we are doing something, when we are really doing very little.

We righteously march down to our polling place, like good soldiers for the status quo. We vote. We get our little stickers with an American flag that proudly proclaims: I VOTED. But when we vote for a member of the political duopoly, we are only voting for "Dee or Dum".

The Democrats had their chance during the last four years, and instead of passing progressive legislation and ending the wars, they have pandered to the right, which has been emboldened by the power the Democrats gave it.

Now the Republicans are poised to take over at least the House of Representatives. And Democrats will begin to spew progressivism out of their lying mouths and abuse the energy of their newly-angry base to try to regain power - like the Republicans have done effectively for the past two years.

Will progressives ever learn that political pandering and fear-based voting never brings anything but defeat, or are we trapped in a vicious cycle of our own making?

Literally nothing would be different. God bless Amerikkka

[icymelon]

I suspect the us would be in the middle of a second great depression

[fatfoo]

Some say the country runs itself.

[garce]

Originally Posted by Coup

Literally nothing would be different. God bless Amerikkka

Nothing ever changes except for the words that fall out of their mouths. They're all theives who care not a whit about you.

All politicians say what they think you want to hear, and then just go ahead and do whatever benefits them the most, and keeps their careers alive the longest.

In Canada, my awareness of our "leaders" (using the term loosely) began wth Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Since then, nothing has changed for the better. Neither my life, nor the lives of anyone in my family, have improved as a direct result of the actions taken by any politician.

Might as well put a monkey in charge and let him randomly stamp shit. Probably work out better, actually.

[Agent 488]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_elite

[Poindexterity]

there would be no tea party for obvious reasons.

[Theo]

i kind of liked McCain

[Splendorous_Male]

No gay marriages for sure

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

No gay marriages for sure

not sure how that is a bad thing

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by KillerK

not sure how that is a bad thing

[PornMD]

No shit nothing would be different. What are you going to do about it Coup since you live here?

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

Some say the country runs itself.

this is probably answer most closed to truth, some country runs by "HIDDEN AGENDA"

[cwd]

well, we would have a hotter VP than Biden...

[epitome]

What would have happened if Gore had won in 2000?

Oh wait, he did.

[czarina]

same sh*t, different a*shole

[Paul Markham]

The biggest difference would be the Democrats would be telling everyone how much better it would of been if they had won. Instead of the Republicans telling everyone.

And the Oval Office would look like an emergency room, with hourly checks ups on McCain's heart. LOL

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The biggest difference would be the Democrats would be telling everyone how much better it would of been if they had won. Instead of the Republicans telling everyone.

And the Oval Office would look like an emergency room, with hourly checks ups on McCain's heart. LOL

and 75% of the people would bite their nails that he makes it through his term so that Palin doesn't have to replace him...

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by epitome

What would have happened if Gore had won in 2000?

Oh wait, he did.

The ONLY thing I would have worried abotu with him over Bush is the immediate response after 9/11. I don't take Gore to be someone who'd have gone after anyone. Bush on the other hand did, and unfortunately kept on going after people and wanted more even after that.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by PornMD

The ONLY thing I would have worried abotu with him over Bush is the immediate response after 9/11. I don't take Gore to be someone who'd have gone after anyone. Bush on the other hand did, and unfortunately kept on going after people and wanted more even after that.

I'd like to think that Gore would have had the balls to go after Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, though I'm by no means certain that he would have.

On the plus side, he'd have had the good sense not to go chasing after nonexistent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

The economy might not have collapsed so soon either.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and 75% of the people would bite their nails that he makes it through his term so that Palin doesn't have to replace him...

Remember that old joke about the secret service having orders to shoot Dan Quayle if anything happened to Bush senior?

This time around it wouldn't be a joke.

[kbauerctu]

Originally Posted by Coup

Literally nothing would be different. God bless Amerikkka

Where did you get that quote? Thank you for sharing.

[Slutboat]

McCain has proven time and time again to be the furthest thing imaginable from his "Maverick" nickname - he is a fully bought and paid for shil for the large corporations, he has flipped and flopped on every position he has ever had. He will change his mind and stance on something the moment popular opinion sways. He voted to slash spending for vets even though he is a so-called "war hero" he is currently running the most despicable anti-gay bigot campaign in support of DADT... The crazy codger has to be told what to think and say into the microphone during speeches about the middle east situation... He advocates bombing Iran - disgusting old fucker would have made the second worst president of all time right behind Bush...

Anyone who voted for him... you should be ashamed of yourself - we averted a major castasterfuck in 08...

[Slutboat]

[Slutboat]

[mechanicvirus]

baddog = coup?

[Slap Dot]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

baddog = coup?

i heard coup is a baddog fake nick? Making a thread

[marlboroack]

1 year old thread? How did you come across this one?

[Rochard]

I think nothing would be any different.

I don't think the President really has much say in the big picture. He can order this and that, and decide on some foreign policies, but Congress has a lot more weight.

The problem with our government is we have two sides who seem to be more interested in beating the other side than doing what's right.

[Fletch XXX]

if he had won.... mccain would have songbirded and gave the enemy all our secrets, as he did in nam.

"Cpl. BOB DUMAS, U.S. Army (Ret.): He didn’t want nobody to check his background because a lot of the POWs that was in the camps said he was a collaborator of the enemy. He gave the enemy the information they wanted."

he is the definition of traitor to the United States

[Jman]

Same as if Obama was White... Nothing would have changed

[Poindexterity]

Originally Posted by Coup

Literally nothing would be different. God bless Amerikkka

thats exactly what i said before the election.
everyone talked to me like i was stupid.

i very well may be, but i aint BLIND.

[Coup]

Amerikka: Land of the Snake, Home of the Theif