AFF, chargeback increased

[Marcin978]

Tell me people, do you notice increase of chargebacks too?

I earn less and less , but i send to them still the same, over 10k daily
my ratio is 1:100-120

maybe its time to replace, but plese don't give me links with ref code, i need honest opinion what convert good from webmaster, not from owner or worker

[Splum]

Good luck with that

[qwe]

you saying you pull 100 sign ups daily?

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Splum

Good luck with that

[Marcin978]

Originally Posted by qwe

you saying you pull 100 sign ups daily?

almost
currently 60-90

but sales dropped, chargeback ratio increased

i just wanted to ask other aff promoters about their results, and chargebacks

[Caligari]

If AFF is sliding you should check out Dating Gold, i have yet to have a charge back in over a year of using them and the ratios are decent.
They also have a variety of dating and cam platforms with loads of promotional angles.

Not only that but they have a HUGE promo coming up i believe starting July 15th, big money.

[Caligari]

Also you might want to check out Date Cam Cash which carries once again both adult dating sites like ILust and cam sites. This is new, I've only been advertising them for 3 weeks so i cannot honestly tell you about chargebacks yet, but they have some nice sites and promo material.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Marcin978

Tell me people, do you notice increase of chargebacks too?

I earn less and less , but i send to them still the same, over 10k daily
my ratio is 1:100-120

maybe its time to replace, but plese don't give me links with ref code, i need honest opinion what convert good from webmaster, not from owner or worker

If your conversion ratios stay around 1:100, you have some quality targeted traffic.

It was my impression that AFF is a bit over exposed on the joins, and you could switch over to something that is a bit more fresh and probably improve your ratios.

Maybe contact Marina about XXXMatch, the join database is much newer. But who knows, maybe AFF was a perfect fit for your traffic, you need to do some testing.

[ajrocks]

Hit me up, ihookup.com is killing it converisons. If you want a special revshare deal I'll work something great for you.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Marcin978

Tell me people, do you notice increase of chargebacks too?

I earn less and less , but i send to them still the same, over 10k daily
my ratio is 1:100-120

maybe its time to replace, but plese don't give me links with ref code, i need honest opinion what convert good from webmaster, not from owner or worker

To be honest with you...it's getting harder and harder to get a dating join because I'm pretty sure that every human being on the face of the Earth has at least signed up for a free account at one point in their lives.

Kinda hard to cookie a surfer with your affiliate code when they've already been to adult friend finder a thousand times before and probably already have a profile on there.

For new sales I'd say AFF is a "victim" of their own success over the years.

[react]

If you're concerned about saturation try GetItOn which started with a new DB. But AFF itself still does great for me.

[munki]

Originally Posted by Caligari

Also you might want to check out Date Cam Cash which carries once again both adult dating sites like ILust and cam sites. This is new, I've only been advertising them for 3 weeks so i cannot honestly tell you about chargebacks yet, but they have some nice sites and promo material.

Kinda hard to beat the current 90% promo as well...

[Jayvis]

Originally Posted by Caligari

If AFF is sliding you should check out Dating Gold, i have yet to have a charge back in over a year of using them and the ratios are decent.
They also have a variety of dating and cam platforms with loads of promotional angles.

Not only that but they have a HUGE promo coming up i believe starting July 15th, big money.

I know you were looking for other webmaster's opinions but since we're now mentioned in this thread... I will confirm that we (DatingGold) are in fact offering a $125 PPS promo July 16-31.

We're also rolling out new landing pages and new tools on a monthly basis. Take a look at our latest lander, in-house testing has been extremely good on a wide variety of traffic sources thus far.



If you do decide to start testing some other sponsors I would love to have the opportunity to earn your business. I will match any existing PPS/revshare/per lead payouts you're receiving and do my best to get you the same quality of tools or LPs. I can show you stats of other webmasters and generally answer any questions you might have about what else is out there...

Please let me know if you'd like to give us a test run... email works best: jay[at]datinggold.com

Otherwise, best of luck!

[moeloubani]

Try xProfiles the social networking aspect of it has lots of new people signing up that otherwise wouldn't.

[alias]

Ask Seth_Manson or Boneprone on here, they promote aff.

[boneprone]

Hit me up on icq..

100 free member signups or 100 actual paying new members a day?
If 100 paying new members, who are you?

A FUCKING MONSTER.

Hit me up. And see you in Costa Rica.

[Chosen]

60-90 paid signups is still very good if you really mean paid ones.
AFF sales suck for me, so not much chargebacks as well...

[Marcin978]

i forgot to mention that my ratio describes free registrations
so i'm not a fucking monster

[O MARINA]

Originally Posted by Marcin978

i need honest opinion what convert good from webmaster, not from owner or worker

Not all webmasters tell their competitors what is making $ and converting for them, so maybe you should listen to me

[boneprone]

Originally Posted by Marcin978

i forgot to mention that my ratio describes free registrations
so i'm not a fucking monster

Ok then. Nevermind..
Dont contact me.

LOL!

[marlboroack]

Dude there is no fucking way you make 100 sign ups a day. I'm sorry. And reason being chargebacks are high is because the sex ratio is 5-300. That's 5 females every 300 males.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Dude there is no fucking way you make 100 sign ups a day. I'm sorry. And reason being chargebacks are high is because the sex ratio is 5-300. That's 5 females every 300 males.

And we all know that of the 5 females odds are 3 are hookers.

It's a site that scams customers and surfers. and affiliates send them traffic.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Dude there is no fucking way you make 100 sign ups a day.

100 sales a day is unpossible!@@#$##

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by Robbie

For new sales I'd say AFF is a "victim" of their own success over the years.

The issue with this is that for new sales, you have a problem with many people already being a member. However, the members which are not already exposed convert way better on AFF then on any alternative.

Therein lies the dilemma. Right now, AFF is still leading by a long margin when it comes to conversions but, in my personal view, it might make sense to try and focus on critical mass as the traffic on there is falling.

For instance, too many chat rooms looking "kinda empty" doesnt do much for the appeal so reduce some of the less popular "generic" as opposed to "geo specific" chat rooms. Focus forum messages into a bigger critical mass.

[Jayvis]

Originally Posted by Marcin978

i forgot to mention that my ratio describes free registrations
so i'm not a fucking monster

Have you tried promoting a per lead plan so that you don't even have to worry about things like chargebacks? Drop me a line, I think I could offer you a great rate on a per lead plan or a single opt plan so you get paid regardless of email confirmation.

Thanks.