Pornhub & YouPorn Owner Funds Fight Against Cyberlockers - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultKing · 06-23-2012, 05:04 AM

http://torrentfreak.com/pornhub-youp...ockers-120623/

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The company behind YouPorn and PornHub has agreed to fund an anti-piracy outfit dedicated to bringing down ?rogue? cyberlockers and illicit file-sharing forums. Speaking with TorrentFreak, the Adult Content Industry United Foundation says they will be using the money to cut off funding to cyberlockers in the hope that hitting them in the pocket brings them to their knees. But are cyberlockers and so-called ?tube? sites facing the same issues?

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porn sites going after us maybe we should look at closing thier sites down do them good to remember payback is a bitch.

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i think the 100,000 pron pics i have is enough , me thinks i can imagine the rest

brazzers fails you all fail i r has all your bases are belong to us
and as to full hd its out there you just aint got access to it.....
sides why do i want to see the hair on some chicks butt a divx/xvid/sd.x264 is just great to trade about
hahahahaha HD i see your zits now baby

Let's see that fuckwit Gideon spin this one.

Major (Tom) · 06-23-2012, 05:10 AM

wow. I love it. I guess these cyberlockers started to get too big for their britches in manwins eyes. It's transparent what is going on but if you share a comon enemy you can be, at the very least, 'symbiotic'.
ds

Klen · 06-23-2012, 05:17 AM

So they don't like competition huh :D

MaDalton · 06-23-2012, 05:33 AM

this is really funny, but for a totally different reason than you would think

Brad Mitchell · 06-23-2012, 05:36 AM

I like what ACIUF is up to and its mission, I was just checking out his site last week. Its my list to follow up with. It seems righteously guerilla.

Brad

Hank_Heartland · 06-23-2012, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

this is really funny, but for a totally different reason than you would think

Funny for all reasons...we have seen wolves in sheep clothing before

MaDalton · 06-23-2012, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Funny for all reasons...we have seen wolves in sheep clothing before

in my case a very personal reason

but i totally appreciate any effort that helps to bring down file lockers, torrents etc.

tubes are a totally different animal imo

beerptrol · 06-23-2012, 06:12 AM

taking down the competition

BIGTYMER · 06-23-2012, 06:19 AM

Unreal..

They have to stick their dirty hand in everything.

Paul Markham · 06-23-2012, 06:42 AM

Rather than flame, support them. They are doing something.

Though this I don't understand.

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The company behind YouPorn and PornHub has agreed to fund an anti-piracy outfit dedicated to bringing down ?rogue? cyberlockers and illicit file-sharing forums. Speaking with TorrentFreak, the Adult Content Industry United Foundation says they will be using the money to cut off funding to cyberlockers in the hope that hitting them in the pocket brings them to their knees. But are cyberlockers and so-called ?tube? sites facing the same issues?

So going after the money is the best way to hit them.

Barefootsies · 06-23-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So going after the money is the best way to hit them.

If there is no money, there is no reason to do it.

How are they going to pay for their labor and bandwidth? It all takes money to run a business.

geedub · 06-23-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

If there is no money, there is no reason to do it.

How are they going to pay for their labor and bandwidth? It all takes money to run a business.

But Markham says internet traffic is free and easy to get.

DWB · 06-23-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

wow. I love it. I guess these cyberlockers started to get too big for their britches in manwins eyes. It's transparent what is going on but if you share a common enemy you can be, at the very least, 'symbiotic'.
ds

Took the words right out of my mouth.

DWB · 06-23-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Unreal..

They have to stick their dirty hand in everything.

If they can't buy them, and I'm sure they have tried, they are left with no other choice. There is only room for one ginormous pirate operation in town.

Either way, file lockers going offline is a positive step. Anyone who is able to bring down a single one, large or small, gets a kudos in my book. Personally, I like seeing Manwin go after these guys, as they have the resources to take the lead on this and see it through. If anyone has the power to get the job done, besides Corbin Fisher, it would be them.

What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.

mikke · 06-23-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by geedub

But Markham says internet traffic is free and easy to get.

it cant be!

Tijuana_Tom · 06-23-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.

Yah you gotta be careful with hidden Agendas.

I don't feel like Manwin has shown any regard for morals and ethics unless it benefits them financially.

Businesses are in business to make money, that's not the point.

signupdamnit · 06-23-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

If they can't buy them, and I'm sure they have tried, they are left with no other choice. There is only room for one ginormous pirate operation in town.

Either way, file lockers going offline is a positive step. Anyone who is able to bring down a single one, large or small, gets a kudos in my book. Personally, I like seeing Manwin go after these guys, as they have the resources to take the lead on this and see it through. If anyone has the power to get the job done, besides Corbin Fisher, it would be them.

What I don't want to see is a bunch of lawsuits where Manwin ends up owning all the file lockers. That would be disastrous.

I really hate to say it but I don't think real change will occur unless Manwin also steps up to the plate and helps put a stop to it (including on their own sites). At this point we really need them. The pay site industry is that far gone because of the rampant piracy over the last five years.

I recall in the past much discussion about repeat infringers. Did Fabian ever enact a policy to terminate (or at least suspend future uploads from them) repeat infringers after three strikes and remove all their videos automatically as Youtube does?

Mutt · 06-23-2012, 12:44 PM

Is it common knowledge that Choopa and the Mansef gang owned Filesonic and Fileserve?

I don't think Fabian, whatever you think of him, would risk what Manwin now owns and controls by owning large file sharing operations. The Feds took down Megaupload, it looks like Oron is on the run, file sharing sites look to be sitting ducks while tube sites continue to flourish behind the DMCA's 'safe harbor' provision.

Manwin's core business is still adult paysites, so file sharing sites are its enemy as much as for any of us smaller businesses. It's why in another thread I asked Fabian why Manwin hasn't done what Corbin Fisher has done.

I've been saying for years it's the file sharing sites that will kill us all off, tube sites have never bothered me as much.

Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/

Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love

Babes - Katie Kox - Anything For You

Babes - Ivana Sugar - Wake Up My Love

Babes - Annalisa Greco - Gorgeous Annalisa

Babes - Erica Fontes - Aqua Pleasure

Babes - Alanna Anderson - Summer Of Love

Babes - Alanna Anderson - A Summer's Day Delight

MaDalton · 06-23-2012, 01:13 PM

this is truly amusing: http://www.youclips.net/static/_2257

(got there from seaporn)

Paul Markham · 06-23-2012, 01:47 PM

This is a long fight and it seems more are joining the war and we're winning some battle.

these posts seem confusing though given the latest news.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020293&postcount=83

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020254&postcount=75

Seems he didn't know what was happening.

papill0n · 06-23-2012, 01:56 PM

the most ironic thing you will ever read in adult

EVER

DaLord · 06-23-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

the most ironic thing you will ever read in adult

EVER

Exactly. Whoever came up with this idea is either fucking stupid or a brilliant depending on which side they are on.

RycEric · 06-23-2012, 03:24 PM

Perfect match.. two organizations that managed to piss off a lot of people in a very short amount of time. Congrats to the winners.

SZNY · 06-23-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Is it common knowledge that Choopa and the Mansef gang owned Filesonic and Fileserve?

I don't think Fabian, whatever you think of him, would risk what Manwin now owns and controls by owning large file sharing operations. The Feds took down Megaupload, it looks like Oron is on the run, file sharing sites look to be sitting ducks while tube sites continue to flourish behind the DMCA's 'safe harbor' provision.

Manwin's core business is still adult paysites, so file sharing sites are its enemy as much as for any of us smaller businesses. It's why in another thread I asked Fabian why Manwin hasn't done what Corbin Fisher has done.

I've been saying for years it's the file sharing sites that will kill us all off, tube sites have never bothered me as much.

Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/

Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love

Babes - Katie Kox - Anything For You

Babes - Ivana Sugar - Wake Up My Love

Babes - Annalisa Greco - Gorgeous Annalisa

Babes - Erica Fontes - Aqua Pleasure

Babes - Alanna Anderson - Summer Of Love

Babes - Alanna Anderson - A Summer's Day Delight

Funny thing is that they are promoting brazzers as an affiliate (with a banner)

http://www.brazzersnetwork.com/tour3...on=landing_tgp

raymor · 06-23-2012, 06:22 PM

Hopefully the file sharing sites will fight back against the tubes, trying to get their bulking cut off. If they both go war, they both lose.

AdultKing · 06-23-2012, 07:25 PM

Personally I love the irony that seeps out of this whole saga. I call it....

"The Great Pirate War of 2012"

Robbie · 06-23-2012, 08:44 PM

It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.

BIGTYMER · 06-23-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.

babymaker · 06-23-2012, 09:06 PM

Tubes sell porn tho, and file lockers and torrents don't, i have tried it

Tubes generate tons of porn sales, so it is good to see file lockers go

Major (Tom) · 06-23-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

It's like some kind of gang war.

"Don't steal on the same corner I'm stealing on"

Both sides are thieves in my opinion.

I'd rather have manwin running the corner in front of my house than a file locker. At least you can reason with manwin & they wont tag up your house & drink 40's on your porch & rep stupid colors. Cyberlockers are what happens when jamal takes over your corner. Both are bad, but at least manwin is trying to stay within the letter of the law, albeit the law sucks.
ds

Kenny B! · 06-23-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/

Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love

How's this for irony...

The main ad is for Brazzers

Robbie · 06-23-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I'd rather have manwin running the corner in front of my house than a file locker. At least you can reason with manwin & they wont tag up your house & drink 40's on your porch & rep stupid colors. Cyberlockers are what happens when jamal takes over your corner. Both are bad, but at least manwin is trying to stay within the letter of the law, albeit the law sucks.
ds

I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.

Slew_ · 06-23-2012, 09:59 PM

I heard they are fighting for people who steal content too...

Paul Markham · 06-23-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor

Hopefully the file sharing sites will fight back against the tubes, trying to get their bulking cut off. If they both go war, they both lose.

When the enemy starts fighting within, it weakens them.

trevesty · 06-23-2012, 10:13 PM

Interesting indeed..

Mutt · 06-23-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.

um...... this is real life. not suggesting you do anything violent but not like all these people who steal content are virtual, they're flesh and blood people.

DTK · 06-23-2012, 10:30 PM

Hypocrisy at its finest

JOKER · 06-23-2012, 11:33 PM

I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around

In my eyes, I think this is a good start, but I guess you have to start "believing" to see it.

I know most can't agree with it on principle, but I'd say in general - the less free porn easily available to end-users the better chances for us all to actually sell porn again.

This is actually the time to decide on which side you are on, are you just going to continue bitching or are you going to help this time around - most of us have just sat by idle while the tubes and file-lockers started taking over... Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.

Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ?

epitome · 06-23-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.

No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?

JosephFM · 06-23-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ?

I actually think that's the main goal. Control everything, kill the competion and then "flip the free porn swith off" and reep in the benefits.

So don't give up, keep building your sites, work on getting traffic to them and lets hope that is actually the goal.

DTK · 06-24-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around

I think you are unbelievably naive in terms of their motives. They know exactly what they are doing, and there is not a single good intention in their plan.

JOKER · 06-24-2012, 12:14 AM

Like I said let's give it some time. All this can't just happen over night, everyone should understand that.

Robbie · 06-24-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?

For your dumbass information:
I did NOT attend his joke of a "keynote speech".

I never had any intention of hitting him anyway. Matter of fact he wanted to meet me and talk about what he's doing to show his "side". He never did. And when I saw him in the room at the CEO dinner, I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.

He just sat there slack jawed and staring straight ahead like a dead fish. lol

But no, I never intended any violence towards him. He'd sue me to the ground.

Now what have you ever done? Nothing? Thought so... Shut the fuck up.

Roald · 06-24-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

For your dumbass information:
I did NOT attend his joke of a "keynote speech".

I never had any intention of hitting him anyway. Matter of fact he wanted to meet me and talk about what he's doing to show his "side". He never did. And when I saw him in the room at the CEO dinner, I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.

He just sat there slack jawed and staring straight ahead like a dead fish. lol

But no, I never intended any violence towards him. He'd sue me to the ground.

Now what have you ever done? Nothing? Thought so... Shut the fuck up.

wow you guys really showed him

Paul Markham · 06-24-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around

In my eyes, I think this is a good start, but I guess you have to start "believing" to see it.

I know most can't agree with it on principle, but I'd say in general - the less free porn easily available to end-users the better chances for us all to actually sell porn again.

This is actually the time to decide on which side you are on, are you just going to continue bitching or are you going to help this time around - most of us have just sat by idle while the tubes and file-lockers started taking over... Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.

QFT. Manwin maybe the biggest, yet what are RK, BB and the other big guys doing about this. Scuba Steve thinks makinh jokes and closing one Tube a year is the answer.

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Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ?

Incredibly naive. If the major Tubes flip the "free porn switch" off. Surfers will move to those who don't and those who start up. Then it's all "User Upload" or bought. If the cost of buying content cripples some, more surfers left for those with content or able to buy it. This is why content is King, surfers will always follow it. Then the advertising on piracy sites. This is why Manwin and the big Tube owners will go after the pirates.

It's so simple. 1000 pirates sharing the booty will end up with less than if it were 100 giving away free porn.

Stop wishing for 2005 to return.

DWB · 06-24-2012, 01:44 AM

You know what they say... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I'm just not sure who is who in this one.

TheDA · 06-24-2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I know what you're saying...but personally I'd like to go outside with my shotgun and clear my corner of ALL the thieves. And if this was real life and not some goddamn virtual game that these pirates are playing, that's exactly what I would do.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

...I walked right by him (Jerry from AEBN was right beside me laughing) and I stared dead at him the whole time in an overly exaggerated way to fuck with him.

From blasting people with a shotgun to staring at them real hard and mean in 2 posts - way to go. LOL

Get that clown with the bleached hair that keeps popping up in your avatar to sort him out. He looks like he could handle the situation, maybe he could cuss and swear at him.

MaDalton · 06-24-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

wow you guys really showed him

i hope Joker is right, i had the same thought in the past

DamianJ · 06-24-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

No, you wouldn't.

Did you give Fabian a black eye after his keynote in Vegas?

Course he didn't. Didn't even talk to him.

I love coked up steroid filled red neck keyboard warriors.

One minute blasting him with a shotgun, the next minute, giving him the evil eye.

Hilarious.

DWB · 06-24-2012, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is.

All of these lawsuits are nothing more than the latest porn business model. They all are only out for cash, not to help anyone.

Oron will settle. Slutload will settle. All of them will settle. That is the point of hitting them with super size multi-million dollar law suits. They will settle for a fraction of that and will agree to do something to help keep content off their site that belongs to the company suing them.

It's like when you get into trouble with the law. They often throw all sorts of BS charges on you and force you to plea to a lesser charge. They win and get a conviction, and you get fucked, but the fucking wasn't as bad as it could have been.

06-23-2012, 05:10 AM	#2
Major (Tom) Anti Communist Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 29,752	wow. I love it. I guess these cyberlockers started to get too big for their britches in manwins eyes. It's transparent what is going on but if you share a comon enemy you can be, at the very least, 'symbiotic'. ds __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,825	this is really funny, but for a totally different reason than you would think __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

06-23-2012, 05:36 AM	#5
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,811	I like what ACIUF is up to and its mission, I was just checking out his site last week. Its my list to follow up with. It seems righteously guerilla. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Is it common knowledge that Choopa and the Mansef gang owned Filesonic and Fileserve? I don't think Fabian, whatever you think of him, would risk what Manwin now owns and controls by owning large file sharing operations. The Feds took down Megaupload, it looks like Oron is on the run, file sharing sites look to be sitting ducks while tube sites continue to flourish behind the DMCA's 'safe harbor' provision. Manwin's core business is still adult paysites, so file sharing sites are its enemy as much as for any of us smaller businesses. It's why in another thread I asked Fabian why Manwin hasn't done what Corbin Fisher has done. I've been saying for years it's the file sharing sites that will kill us all off, tube sites have never bothered me as much. Manwin must have invested close to a million dollars in Babes.com - take a look at today's offerings from Seaporn.org http://www.seaporn.org/ Babes - Shazia Sahari - Come My Love Babes - Katie Kox - Anything For You Babes - Ivana Sugar - Wake Up My Love Babes - Annalisa Greco - Gorgeous Annalisa Babes - Erica Fontes - Aqua Pleasure Babes - Alanna Anderson - Summer Of Love Babes - Alanna Anderson - A Summer's Day Delight __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	So they don't like competition huh :D

06-23-2012, 06:19 AM	#9
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Unreal.. They have to stick their dirty hand in everything.

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,825	this is truly amusing: http://www.youclips.net/static/_2257 (got there from seaporn) __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This is a long fight and it seems more are joining the war and we're winning some battle. these posts seem confusing though given the latest news. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020293&postcount=83 https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19020254&postcount=75 Seems he didn't know what was happening. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70 Last edited by Paul Markham; 06-23-2012 at 01:52 PM..

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	the most ironic thing you will ever read in adult EVER

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RycEric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,313	Perfect match.. two organizations that managed to piss off a lot of people in a very short amount of time. Congrats to the winners.

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Personally I love the irony that seeps out of this whole saga. I call it.... "The Great Pirate War of 2012"

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DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Hypocrisy at its finest __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

06-23-2012, 11:33 PM	#38
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	I know where you're all coming from, but give Manwin some time, they will eventually come around In my eyes, I think this is a good start, but I guess you have to start "believing" to see it. I know most can't agree with it on principle, but I'd say in general - the less free porn easily available to end-users the better chances for us all to actually sell porn again. This is actually the time to decide on which side you are on, are you just going to continue bitching or are you going to help this time around - most of us have just sat by idle while the tubes and file-lockers started taking over... Maybe it's time to stop sitting on the sidelines and take a stance with those that actually put their money and lawyers where their mouth is. Oh and: One thing you all should realize - once there are no more rogue lockers, boards and tubes left - Manwin could actually flip the "free porn switch" off - ever considered thinking that this is the groundwork for a much larger "end-goal" (sorry there it is again) ? __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

06-24-2012, 12:14 AM	#42
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Like I said let's give it some time. All this can't just happen over night, everyone should understand that. __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

06-24-2012, 01:44 AM	#46
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	You know what they say... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm just not sure who is who in this one.