this is what adult has become

[papill0n]

fucking hell what a joke.

http://www.drtuber.com/video/127901/...nix-fuck-a-fan

1. so you steal everyones content

2. throw up your brazzers links

3. launch your affiliate program ??

You can actually open an affiliate program and pay people to send traffic to the shit you are blatantly stealing. ??

[Intrinsic]

drtuber is irrelevant, its only a 403 alexa, theres 402 bigger fish

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

drtuber is irrelevant, its only a 403 alexa, theres 402 bigger fish

what ? that sort of logic is redundant.

on that page you have nasty dollars content, a brazzers link and an affiliate program to promote said arrangement

show me a bigger site or any site using any sponsor from gfy that has an affiliate program to monetize their stolen content.

[AdultKing]

How about an application which lets people watch all the tube content they like, bypassing the tube and being able to watch from within the application. To the tube the app looks like any browser, to the end user it just looks like an app with no ads. Wonder what the tubes would do then ?

[pornmasta]

"fucking a fan"

What's the difference with prostitution ?
Just a way to convince people to join ?

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

How about an application which lets people watch all the tube content they like, bypassing the tube and being able to watch from within the application. To the tube the app looks like any browser, to the end user it just looks like an app with no ads. Wonder what the tubes would do then ?

hotlinks ;)

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

hotlinks ;)

Pretty useless if the app will only play video.

[pornmasta]

You could just use a random tool that removes ads.

[papill0n]

ironically i only promote cams at this stage of the game. 99% of content is worthless

my thread was more to highlight the addition of the affiliate program to the 'tube full of stolen content' situation

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

How about an application which lets people watch all the tube content they like, bypassing the tube and being able to watch from within the application. To the tube the app looks like any browser, to the end user it just looks like an app with no ads. Wonder what the tubes would do then ?

here ya go mate

http://tubedownloader.com/

[Dappz]

im its makes me curious

[Frosty]

I'm not surprised actually, I've noticed that everyone is doing that, and as long as their content hasn't been stolen they're good with Webmasters who are doing it. I guess everyone cares about his site, and that's how it was since like.. forever.

One of the things I find funny on most of the tube sites is the auto-generated DMCA text, especially the part where they say how they don't allow copyrighted content - even though they are the ones who are telling to members to upload it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I'm not surprised actually, I've noticed that everyone is doing that, and as long as their content hasn't been stolen they're good with Webmasters who are doing it. I guess everyone cares about his site, and that's how it was since like.. forever.

One of the things I find funny on most of the tube sites is the auto-generated DMCA text, especially the part where they say how they don't allow copyrighted content - even though they are the ones who are telling to members to upload it.

This industry is going down the toilets. Even the biggest will lose out eventually. The "free porn" model is going to take over and even those selling to Web Cams and Dating sites will lose out eventually. Remember no one foresaw the death of paysites, yet today it's on the horizon.

Could porn of aver resisted the move to free? Not without massive Government intervention and laws.

Many Online businesses are nothing like offline businesses. And there lies the route of the problem.

Offline if you want to start a business, you need to invest something, usually a lot. It requires somewhere to trade, equipment, stock and more.

Online for many required nothing but some time and even fr those who did invest something it was little. If I wanted to shoot a girl for magazines, I needed to pay the girls, make up, film, props, clothing, location and then the equipment. Cost was often $800 a day and could rise. Then is had to be good enough to sell in a competitive market.

Today a custom shooter needs some equipments and then gets paid up front. And it's sold.

I only use myself as an example. The same applies to an affiliates, often a site owner and others. The investment is low and if you throw enough traffic at it. Someone will buy. So the people who entered online porn often weren't real businessmen. Little to risk and lots to gain. And pretty low business morals.

AFF years ago would allow affiliate to steal content to promote them and they were just one of many. Today these people have the ability to put out 1,000s of scenes for little cost and just a handful of sales will pay the BW. The sponsors often don't give a shit and often are guilty of it themselves.

How many programs have Tubes with pirated content on them and make excuses for not deleting them?

How many praise these people for having the most traffic, how many sites feed off that traffic? From affiliates submitting to processors processing, who cares?

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

going down the toilets.

i like poo

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

PapillOn, I checked the Dr Tuber Terms and Conditions, and they don't allow stolen/pirated content (submitters must own the copyrights to the content AND be in possession of a valid model release and 2257 documentation for all performers - see below).

You shall be solely responsible for any and all of your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting, uploading and publishing them. Furthermore, with User Submissions, you affirm, represent and/or warrant that:

you own or retain the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize DrTuber to use all trademarks, copyrights, trade secrets, patents, or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and

you will not post, or allow anyone else to post, any material that depicts any person under the age of 18 years and you have inspected and are maintaining written documentation sufficient to confirm that all subjects of your submissions are, in fact, over the age of 18 years.

You have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions.

By submitting the User Submissions to DrTuber, you hereby grant DrTuber a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the DrTuber Website and DrTuber's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the DrTuber Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels.

You also hereby grant each user of the DrTuber Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the DrTuber Website.

In submitting material (video or other communication), you further agree that you shall not:

submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights, including privacy and publicity rights, unless you are the owner of such rights or have permission from their rightful owner to post the material and to grant DrTuber all of the license rights granted herein;

publish falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage DrTuber or any third party;

submit material that is obscene, illegal, unlawful, , defamatory, libelous, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or encourages conduct that would be considered a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, violate any law, or is otherwise inappropriate;
post advertisements or solicitations of business;

Sounds reasonable to me...

ADG

[Captain Kawaii]

Tubes aint got nothing on file lockers and blogs...Besides crooked tubes are considered to be good business nowadays.
I have asshats who sign up to one of my twitter accounts so they can tell their asshats which new releases to steal...

[BIGTYMER]

Forums are the biggest issue in my book.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

PapillOn, I checked the Dr Tuber Terms and Conditions, and they don't allow stolen/pirated content (submitters must own the copyrights to the content AND be in possession of a valid model release and 2257 documentation for all performers - see below).

Sounds reasonable to me...

ADG

Yes sounds reasonable. Just like the "You have to be 18 to enter this site."

It sounds reasonable, we know it's all a crock of shit.

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Forums are the biggest issue in my book.

The biggest issue are people still trying to sell a product that worked in 2005 in 2011. Pre recorded porn simply is too easy to DL and pirate. so we know the big issue, what's the big solution that works?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Forums are the biggest issue in my book.

anyone in particular, URL ??

[seeandsee]

when all goes to hell, and no new content add, you will see then free porn model will die , but that will be in 20-30 years

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This industry is going down the toilets. Even the biggest will lose out eventually. The "free porn" model is going to take over and even those selling to Web Cams and Dating sites will lose out eventually. Remember no one foresaw the death of paysites, yet today it's on the horizon.

Hi Paul,

I disagree. Movies, pictures and video clips cannot replace the the thrill of live interaction between the client and the model of his dreams. Exploring sexual fantasies live is 100 times more interesting than watching pre recorded videos. And just to prove my point, our sales have actually been rising steadily for some time now, and last May was our best month in over 2 years.

As for pay sites, LOTS of people saw if not the death, then at least the slow down of pay sites. There were too many pay sites but not enough interest. Site owners got desperate for sales and introduced hidden pre-checked cross sales made things only worse for many. Obvious indicators of a problem if you ask me.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This industry is going down the toilets. Even the biggest will lose out eventually. The "free porn" model is going to take over and even those selling to Web Cams and Dating sites will lose out eventually. Remember no one foresaw the death of paysites, yet today it's on the horizon.

Could porn of aver resisted the move to free? Not without massive Government intervention and laws.

Many Online businesses are nothing like offline businesses. And there lies the route of the problem.

Offline if you want to start a business, you need to invest something, usually a lot. It requires somewhere to trade, equipment, stock and more.

Online for many required nothing but some time and even fr those who did invest something it was little. If I wanted to shoot a girl for magazines, I needed to pay the girls, make up, film, props, clothing, location and then the equipment. Cost was often $800 a day and could rise. Then is had to be good enough to sell in a competitive market.

Today a custom shooter needs some equipments and then gets paid up front. And it's sold.

I only use myself as an example. The same applies to an affiliates, often a site owner and others. The investment is low and if you throw enough traffic at it. Someone will buy. So the people who entered online porn often weren't real businessmen. Little to risk and lots to gain. And pretty low business morals.

AFF years ago would allow affiliate to steal content to promote them and they were just one of many. Today these people have the ability to put out 1,000s of scenes for little cost and just a handful of sales will pay the BW. The sponsors often don't give a shit and often are guilty of it themselves.

How many programs have Tubes with pirated content on them and make excuses for not deleting them?

How many praise these people for having the most traffic, how many sites feed off that traffic? From affiliates submitting to processors processing, who cares?

I wouldn't exactly agree with the part that adult industry will fail, part of it will fail. But, that's because they aren't unique, Just check most of the paysites, you'll see similar movie titles everywhere, it's all about some "whore" gettting cum on the face, "sluts" getting gangbanged, etc. Movie titles that make normal people go away, especially the design part, all of them look like scam sites. Big linked thumbnails that lead nowhere...

I'm pretty sure that someone will make a normal paysite, with normal movie titles, and with normal porn. Porn, disrespect and violence don't go together, those who think different obviously want psychopaths and wife beaters as their clientele.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by JFK

anyone in particular, URL ??

pornbb.org and it's network come to mind.

[troncarver]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

How about an application which lets people watch all the tube content they like, bypassing the tube and being able to watch from within the application. To the tube the app looks like any browser, to the end user it just looks like an app with no ads. Wonder what the tubes would do then ?

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