China Is Getting Pissed At The USA

[halfpint]

China is loosing patience with the Us over its inability to agree a debt-ceiling plan.

http://rt.com/news/china-us-debt-default/

[baddog]

I never would have loaned someone money that had our credit issues.

[kaori]

China is going to take every shot they can at making America look bad..
It'll just make them the next superpower quicker... Too bad the US won't really put them in their place...

[halfpint]

If Washington decides to default and thats a big if. I wonder if China will drop the dollar as its main reserve currency

[babymaker]

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by kaori

China is going to take every shot they can at making America look bad..
It'll just make them the next superpower quicker... Too bad the US won't really put them in their place...

how would they do that if they wanted to?

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

China sell to almost all of the western world not just the USA but China does have a lot investments in the US, And to fight a war which wont happen anyway, you need money which the US has not got at this point in time

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by baddog

I never would have loaned someone money that had our credit issues.

We didn't have credit issues until this congress created them. We had the best credit rating in the world a few month's ago.

We may have been carrying too much debt, but you should know that for a massive business venture carrying debt is as much an asset as a liability.

They called it leverage not long ago.

Republicans keep making comparisons to family budgeting, but a more correct comparison is to the budgeting of a giant corporation.

In a business, the ability to leverage is a positive.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

i would disagree on mostly everything

[Brujah]

No worries, Boehner ran it by Rush Limbaugh first. Should be fixed soon.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...h-on-debt-plan

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Bill8

We didn't have credit issues until this congress created them. We had the best credit rating in the world a few month's ago.

Isent this the third time they have had to raise the debt ceiling in order not to default ?

[Agent 488]

they have been raising the ceiling with no issues for decades.

of course the tea party shenanigans are going to get the US credit rating lowered which will end up costing more than any debt level increase.

idiots ...

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Isent this the third time they have had to raise the debt ceiling in order not to default ?

Possibly, I've heard that statement here, but it is not typically emphasized in teh economics news I read.

I'd have to see the supporting sources - do you have them? It might be interesting toi look at that claim.

However, that's a peculiarity of our governing system, only one other country in the world has a debt ceiling law. All other countries give themselves the right to borrow as they see fit.

However, my point was, we had excellent credit until the new tea party driven republicans in the house decided to make this an issue.

We would not have any problems borrowing more money if it were not for the house. Our creditworthiness was not a concern globally.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Brujah

No worries, Boehner ran it by Rush Limbaugh first. Should be fixed soon.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...h-on-debt-plan

ahahaha our senators are more accountable to a fucking radio host than the american people


USA NUMBA 1

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Bill8

Possibly, I've heard that statement here, but it is not typically emphasized in teh economics news I read.

I'd have to see the supporting sources - do you have them? It might be interesting toi look at that claim.

However, that's a peculiarity of our governing system, only one other country in the world has a debt ceiling law. All other countries give themselves the right to borrow as they see fit.

However, my point was, we had excellent credit until the new tea party driven republicans in the house decided to make this an issue.

We would not have any problems borrowing more money if it were not for the house. Our creditworthiness was not a concern globally.

As Agent says it has been raised through the decades

Since March 1962, the debt ceiling has been raised 74 times

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/03/news...faqs/index.htm


I was actually getting it mixed up with this "Third Blow" they are talking about for the US

The first strike came in 2008 when the subprime bubble popped and plunged the world into recession. Since then, a seemingly endless stream of reports and documentaries on the American financial system has transformed its image from being the envy of the world into the poster child for capitalism gone wrong.

The second strike came in the fall of 2010 when the Federal Reserve went ahead with a controversial second round of quantitative easing, now ubiquitously (perhaps infamously) known as ?QE2?.

http://chinausfocus.com/slider/has-t...conomic-power/

[Bill8]

As Zakaria says, many people around the globe see the damage as already having been done.

So the house succeeded in that at least.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....one/?hpt=hp_c1

We face downgrades and investor panic not because of our deficits but because we are behaving like deadbeats, refusing to pay our bills, pouting while the bill collector waits at the door.

We do have a large deficit and debt and we do need to get it under control. That the Tea Party has raised awareness about this is admirable. And I agree with their view that the current set of entitlements - Medicare especially - have to be reformed dramatically to get our fiscal house in order. But that is not an excuse to endanger the good standing of the United States.

First you pay the bills and then you figure out how to change your spending habits.

The tragedy here is that the damage may already have been done.

From now on, every time the debt ceiling needs to be raised, the world will wonder: Will the U.S. stand by its promises or will it break them?

Something that was taken for granted - the credibility of the United States - is now surrounded by uncertainty. In her interview with me to be aired this Sunday at 10am ET/PT on GPS, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde says that "Global markets have always had a positive bias towards the United States but that is now eroded somewhat."

For this erosion, we have only ourselves to blame.

Most of the analysts I have read, incidentally, are saying that the medicare problem was caused by medicare part b, the prescription drug payment plan championed by Bush and teh republicans. The one in which we guarenteed massive pharm company profits while making it illegal to negotiate for lower prices.

The wars, the bush tax cuts, and medicare part b make up the largest part of our deficit growth.

I dont see republicans lining up to criticize medicare part b. They lump that in with the original medicare, which had been doing okay, and was at least fairly well funded in budgeting (at the time), unlike the completely unfunded medicare part b.

[AnimeFevers]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

What an ignorant prat...

[Overload]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

the big BLA ... you have weapons eh? how about brain? thats much harder to pay isnt it? go get some china OWNS america already ... failed at maths? US = ~240 million citizens (living on debts) VS CHINA = 1 BILLION citizens banking green every year ... do you REALLY think you could withstand that "red flood"? you cant be that shortsighted eh? or do ya still think the US is prime? ... FAIL ... you are BANCRUPT - FACE IT!

[AdPatron]

China... what a bunch of dumb asses.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Overload

the big BLA ... you have weapons eh? how about brain? thats much harder to pay isnt it? go get some china OWNS america already ... failed at maths? US = ~240 million citizens (living on debts) VS CHINA = 1 BILLION citizens banking green every year ... do you REALLY think you could withstand that "red flood"? you cant be that shortsighted eh? or do ya still think the US is prime? ... FAIL ... you are BANCRUPT - FACE IT!

Pigshit.

[L-Pink]

Fuck china, They need us more than we need them!
.

[BFT3K]

Chinese play big joke, they make pee pee in your coke.

[Joshua G]

fuck china. They ass rape the USA 8 ways to sunday. Lets see. lead paint in toys. Toxic drywall. manipulate the currency to prevent imports from competing in their economy. Piracy so bad, they dont just make fake apple products, they make fake apple stores. The idea that china is ascending on the back of fake products, short cuts & child labor is a sick joke.

If our government was sane, they would declare a trade war with china, instead of letting our corporations shift US jobs over to their slave labor (apple, nike) but no, we need chinese cash to finance the runaway entitlement & military spending.

Our government is a tool of corporations & the public employee/unions. They are all wrecking the USA with unbridled spending, lax tax & trade laws that benefit themselves at the expense of the public. Boners proposal cuts 100 billion a year when the deficit is 1.5 trillion? & boner has the balls to order the tea party to vote for that? No wonder he looks like a fool.

Tea party is saying, enough is enough. Let the government live only on the cash coming in until the leadership puts forward a serious bill to stop the runaway debt. For once someone in congress is voting on principle instead of being lapdogs to wall street...guaranteed wall street does not want a default.

But everyone here hates the tea party because they are dumb & right wing & koch pawns. They are the only people forcing the government to face the problem of runaway spending. You all should be grateful for their stand they are taking. Tea party fights for america.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

fuck china. They ass rape the USA 8 ways to sunday. Lets see. lead paint in toys. Toxic drywall. manipulate the currency to prevent imports from competing in their economy. Piracy so bad, they dont just make fake apple products, they make fake apple stores. The idea that china is ascending on the back of fake products, short cuts & child labor is a sick joke.

If our government was sane, they would declare a trade war with china, instead of letting our corporations shift US jobs over to their slave labor (apple, nike) but no, we need chinese cash to finance the runaway entitlement & military spending.

Our government is a tool of corporations & the public employee/unions. They are all wrecking the USA with unbridled spending, lax tax & trade laws that benefit themselves at the expense of the public. Boners proposal cuts 100 billion a year when the deficit is 1.5 trillion? & boner has the balls to order the tea party to vote for that? No wonder he looks like a fool.

Tea party is saying, enough is enough. Let the government live only on the cash coming in until the leadership puts forward a serious bill to stop the runaway debt. For once someone in congress is voting on principle instead of being lapdogs to wall street...guaranteed wall street does not want a default.

But everyone here hates the tea party because they are dumb & right wing & koch pawns. They are the only people forcing the government to face the problem of runaway spending. You all should be grateful for their stand they are taking. Tea party fights for america.

Plus, pee pee in our coke.

[Agent 488]

the tea party "is" wall street. if you don't see that you are a duped fool.

[stinkyfingers]

[BFT3K]

[uno]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

Tea party is saying, enough is enough. Let the government live only on the cash coming in until the leadership puts forward a serious bill to stop the runaway debt. For once someone in congress is voting on principle instead of being lapdogs to wall street...guaranteed wall street does not want a default.

But everyone here hates the tea party because they are dumb & right wing & koch pawns. They are the only people forcing the government to face the problem of runaway spending. You all should be grateful for their stand they are taking. Tea party fights for america.

I think you are grossly misjudging what the "tea party" wants. They don't want the government to live off of the cash coming in. They want to completely choke out and strangle the government so it dies. They don't want any taxes on anyone/company for any reason. They want Government to keep its filthy hands off their medicare!



link hotten

Regulations kill the poor businesses who are only looking to innocently exploit, pollute and enslave for the pure innocent purpose of profits for shareholders/executives.

Maybe my sarcasm meter is malfunctioning because I know i've seen you be tongue-in-cheek and (i hope) sarcastic about these things before.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by halfpint

China is loosing patience with the Us over its inability to agree a debt-ceiling plan.

http://rt.com/news/china-us-debt-default/

You mean "losing", not "loosing".

Please learn the fucking language, mkay?

And who gives a shit what Red China thinks?

The place is on the brink of internal collapse anyway.

[drmadcat]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

that's makes sense because the usa is defiantly winning in Iraq and Afghanistan against shepherds and lets not forget about Vietnam because the usa defiantly won that one

population of china 1,331,460,000
population of usa 307,006,550

population of Chinese in usa 3,796,796

ow and i thort you would like this vid USA IS DOOMED

i have worked and lived in the usa and loved every minute of it but its peoples attitudes like yours that really piss me off thinking that the usa is the best all the time

[uno]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

You mean "losing", not "loosing".

Please learn the fucking language, mkay?

And who gives a shit what Red China thinks?

The place is on the brink of internal collapse anyway.

Since you stopped pretending you were a woman, can you also please stop saying things like "mkay"?

[Captain Kawaii]

The world doesn't give a shit what China thinks...they will probably implode before taking over slot #1.
Next to
Israel
North Korea
Pakistan
Iran
probably they are most despised.

[drmadcat]

sally rand fuck you

[Spunky]

Don't fuck with Charley

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by drmadcat

that's makes sense because the usa is defiantly winning in Iraq and Afghanistan against shepherds and lets not forget about Vietnam because the usa defiantly won that one

population of china 1,331,460,000
population of usa 307,006,550

population of Chinese in usa 3,796,796

ow and i thort you would like this vid USA IS DOOMED

i have worked and lived in the usa and loved every minute of it but its peoples attitudes like yours that really piss me off thinking that the usa is the best all the time

Hmmmm.... Seems to me like the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan have been removed by the US, and replaced. So yes, we won.

China.... China doesn't have a blue water navy. They couldn't attack the continental US to save their own asses.

[drmadcat]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Hmmmm.... Seems to me like the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan have been removed by the US, and replaced. So yes, we won.

China.... China doesn't have a blue water navy. They couldn't attack the continental US to save their own asses.

nobody knows until it happens im just sick to death of people like that other guy saying usa is best all the time

[garce]

Originally Posted by Bill8

Possibly, I've heard that statement here, but it is not typically emphasized in teh economics news I read.

Then you've read nothing, because the debt ceiling was raised five times under President Bush alone. Its been raised 78 times since 1960.

[glowlite]

If push comes to shove China means very little. Nor any other country/entity who has financial or real property holdings within the United States.

Again, that's if push comes to shove. The US will freeze and capture all their assets within US jurisdiction and boundaries.

[Sam - Mr. Skin]

Originally Posted by Bill8

We didn't have credit issues until this congress created them. We had the best credit rating in the world a few month's ago.

you have to be kidding...

it's been pretty evident for decades that there was no chance of us ever paying off our massive debt and everyone has known this. bill clinton was the last president to do the impossible and actually balance a 4 year budget. all that means is that for once we managed to not increase our debt but we didn't do anything to pay it off...and don't forget about the interest.

the entire world economy is a house of cards and china, the EU and every other "developed" nation is complicit. we will all fail together. i'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, but i believe in most of what is laid out in the zeitgeist films regarding the modern monetary system.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by sam_mrskincash

you have to be kidding...

it's been pretty evident for decades that there was no chance of us ever paying off our massive debt and everyone has known this. bill clinton was the last president to do the impossible and actually balance a 4 year budget. all that means is that for once we managed to not increase our debt but we didn't do anything to pay it off...and don't forget about the interest.

the entire world economy is a house of cards and china, the EU and every other "developed" nation is complicit. we will all fail together. i'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, but i believe in most of what is laid out in the zeitgeist films regarding the modern monetary system.

Show me an article that says we had less than a triple A rating a month ago or earlier.

You do understand what creditworthy means right?

People wouldn't buy greek bonds at 16% (or whatever they were selling for recently) but we had no problem at all selling dollar debt.

The market did not think we could not pay back the bonds we were selling.

You are confusing a certain subsector of the population's political opinion with the market's estimation of our credit standing.

Your beliefs about america's security does not determine wether or not treasuries were selling.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by garce

Then you've read nothing, because the debt ceiling was raised five times under President Bush alone. Its been raised 78 times since 1960.

You do understand that there is a difference between hitting the debt ceiling and default, right?

In any case, what I said was, I did not know, the economic news I read has not said anything I recall about 3 instances of near default.

If they did, I'm not sure what difference that would make, altho I would grant that it was an indication that the american congress is incompetent.

It could be true, but I do not know it to be true.

I do however know the difference between hitting the debt ceiling and default.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

You mean "losing", not "loosing".

Please learn the fucking language, mkay?

And who gives a shit what Red China thinks?

The place is on the brink of internal collapse anyway.

I normally try and ignore your idiotic posts because you talk so much shit all the time, but please if you must post in a thread, at least try to say something constructive for a change.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Plus, pee pee in our coke.

DID YOU KNOW .... that writing on the label of a Chinese can of coke does not say COKE or Coca-Cola ...

Ver batem, it says : Makes Your Mouth Happy!

[cardinalvices]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

have you ever heard about EU with 420 mln people?

[seeandsee]

China is communist country, they will fuck at the end

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by babymaker

China gives us money to buy their crap products since no one eles wants it, so they are fucked without us. Plus we have better weapons so we only have to pay if we want to they have to kiss our ass. What are they going to do fight us, we don't fight conventional wars anymore based on amounts of people, it's based on weapons, and we win.

I LoL'd

[cooldude7]

china next super power.

what kind of porn Chinese people like ? :P

[Vendot]

You guys are a bit confused. China is the second largest economy in the world (second only to the USA).

China IS going to be the next super power whether you like it or not so deal with it.

[iamtam]

Originally Posted by halfpint

China is loosing patience with the Us over its inability to agree a debt-ceiling plan.

http://rt.com/news/china-us-debt-default/

yeah, i will pay attention to a russian news source to find out who is pissed at the us.

if china was pissed, it would be out in public and in their news not leaked to russian hacks.

[BFT3K]

The US certainly owes China a good amount of money, but for whatever it's worth, I think it's less than 9% of the total US debt pie.

A giant pile of cash, and maybe the largest chunk owed to a single entity, but still... just a percentage of the deficit.