OMFG i think i'm going to be arrested this weekend. Westboro Baptist Church is going to protest.

[uno]

http://godhatesfags.com/fliers/20110...-VA-Elwell.pdf

They are going to protest at my sister's husband's wake and funeral. If anyone wants to contribute to my bail, feel free to start now. paypal: webmaster -@t- hostingstuff dawt com.

[JamesChoopa]

Some people have no respect... That is not the time nor place for your fucked up views to be expressed.

May your brother-in-law Rest In Peace. Thank your sister for me, for his services.

[Intrinsic]

Fucking pricks... I remember your other thread, I think a biker gang got them out of the last funeral they were going to visit along with some local cops who 'looked the other way', hopefully something similar happens to this one

[Eric]

Why not just sue them for Emotional Distress

[raymor]

If it was within a few hundred miles from here I'd be there with a BIG sign to block them entirely.

[mountainmiester]

Fucking fools!! Guess we'd better get more bail money cause I want to load up the old Mossberg 500 and great these fucktards!!! Fuck this makes me sick and sorry bro, this is so not something you or your family needs right now.

[Intrinsic]

Does WBC realize how many veterans with PTSD and other mental illnesses that have access to guns could one day go batshit insane on its leaders/supporters?

[RuthB]

I'm so sorry to hear that uno I hope they're kept away from the proceedings somehow

[bigluv]

While I can understand your outrage, you gotta understand that what these people want is media attention, and the cops carting somebody off just makes for better media attention. It sucks, but as long as they're following the law there isn't really anything you can do IMO.

[uno]

Originally Posted by raymor

If it was within a few hundred miles from here I'd be there with a BIG sign to block them entirely.

At the very least i'll do something like this guy, but I really don't mind being arrested.

[Failed]

Just remember, they're a group of lawyers who want you to attack them. Don't give them what they want!

My suggestion would be to follow the other successes in dealing with these scum, and start a facebook group asking for people to come and help make sure they are not seen, nor heard. There have been numerous groups that will go around and set up at the WBC protest location to chant and drown out their voices, along with other groups that make very large signs, or wear large angel wings, to make sure they're not seen.

My condolences to your family.

[thickcash_amo]

how awful! Sorry to hear about your brother in law, and I really hope they stay away

[uno]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

Does WBC realize how many veterans with PTSD and other mental illnesses that have access to guns could one day go batshit insane on its leaders/supporters?

I'm 110% shocked this hasn't happened yet.

[uno]

I'm going to try to contact that biker group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Guard_Riders

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Eric

Why not just sue them for Emotional Distress

plus 1 for this.. no point lowering yourself to their level

[19teenporn]

Those are some fucked up motherfuckers...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

Does WBC realize how many veterans with PTSD and other mental illnesses that have access to guns could one day go batshit insane on its leaders/supporters?

Or a well trained Vet wearing a ski mask/gloves in a stolen car with an AR-15 doing a drive-by.

[st0ned]

I am very sorry to hear that. It is truly amazing how fucked up these religious types can get.

They had planned to picket the funeral of the shooting victims here in Tucson after the Gabrielle Giffords assassination attempt. Though we had no direct interests in going to the funeral my buddies and I planned to go down there and see what we could do to shield the friends and family from these pricks. They finally backed out once a radio station honored their request for some air time.

What amazes me is that there have been no actions to stop these assholes. I understand the need for free speech but come on, there is no positive outcome to the bullshit they pull.

[uno]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

plus 1 for this.. no point lowering yourself to their level

At this point I don't give a fuck. I'm thinking about the distress it will put on my sister and her 4 and 6 year old.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

plus 1 for this.. no point lowering yourself to their level

It's a family full of lawyers against the world. That would probably cost a fortune and would be beyond difficult to prove.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by uno

At this point I don't give a fuck. I'm thinking about the distress it will put on my sister and her 4 and 6 year old.

i have said this about this group before, just remember what your family member died to protect. just cause this brutally crazy group of trolls chooses to exercise their right in this way, doesn't mean you should direct your anger at them for their differences

if i were in your shoes, i'd tell the family that in this protest-groups own special crazy way, they honour soldiers and what soldiers fight for

i am sorry to hear about all of this

[TheDoc]

Many States/Cities/Counties have laws on what time they can protest a funeral and laws that require them to get permits first, which can be denied. Check your laws, then ask the police for assistance.

All States have Veteran groups and all Veteran groups know who these pricks are and all have had to deal with them. I would start with your local American Legion and straight up ask them for help.... if your Sister isn't involved with the AL, I recommend she becomes a member, they're an amazing support group with people that truly understand her needs.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by uno

http://godhatesfags.com/fliers/20110...-VA-Elwell.pdf

They are going to protest at my sister's husband's wake and funeral. If anyone wants to contribute to my bail, feel free to start now. paypal: webmaster -@t- hostingstuff dawt com.

OK, any number of people around here don't like me but fuck'em!

I am going to tell you how to garner LOCAL support for your cause and I encourage ALL who have read this thread to do the SAME

Go here:

http://www2.ljworld.com/accounts/login/

Create an online account; it's free.

Once you have the online account you can create a blog and write about this situation.

Keep it clean, Boys and Girls or they will ban you but you WILL get responses and maybe even some kind of help with this.

Please, everyone who reads this post follow my instructions so that we can minimize he damage that the SICKOS of Westboro can do to besmirch the memory of one of our valiant warriors!

Lawrence, Kansas is a VERY "liberal" city and they fucking HATE Phred there, so beleive me.................

.if you do it right, keep it clean, make no threats and don't be crazy, you WILL gain support!

You end up needing a bond, you call this guy; Jack at:

http://www.manta.com/c/mmykyks/hartman-sharp-bail-bonds

......you tell him I told you to call..........I will leave him a message in advance.

I have also brought this to the attention of Sons of Liberty Riders.

http://americanlibertyriders.ning.com/

And..........................

http://www.hells-angels.com/

..............and in the meantime, don't ask any questions.

Just do what I have told you and all of you who read this post, please do the same!



I have few printable words for this situation but you have gotten them all.

[uno]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

OK, any number of people around here don't like me but fuck'em!

I am going to tell you how to garner LOCAL support for your cause and I encourage ALL who have read this thread to do the SAME

Go here:

http://www2.ljworld.com/accounts/login/

Create an online account; it's free.

Once you have the online account you can create a blog and write about this situation.

Keep it clean, Boys and Girls or they will ban you but you WILL get responses and maybe even some kind of help with this.

Please, everyone who reads this post follow my instructions so that we can minimize he damage that the SICKOS of Westboro can do to besmirch the memory of one of our valiant warriors!

Lawrence, Kansas is a VERY "liberal" city and they fucking HATE Phred there, so beleive me.................

.if you do it right, keep it clean, make no threats and don't be crazy, you WILL gain support!

You end up needing a bond, you call this guy; Jack at:

http://www.manta.com/c/mmykyks/hartman-sharp-bail-bonds

......you tell him I told you to call..........I will leave him a message in advance.

I have also brought this to the attention of Sons of Liberty Riders.

http://americanlibertyriders.ning.com/

And..........................

http://www.hells-angels.com/

..............and in the meantime, don't ask any questions.

Just do what I have told you and all of you who read this post, please do the same!



I have few printable words for this situation but you have gotten them all.

I may disagree with you about EVERYTHING, but thank you.

[Caligari]

Well ya know these god freaks arrive in a van(s) which they probably leave unattended for a period of time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that these people should have their tires slashed or sand added to their gasoline or any variety of horrible things that can happen when vehicles are left unattended, I'm just saying that abandoned vehicles are very vulnerable.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by uno

I may disagree with you about EVERYTHING, but thank you.

All else is bullshit.

On this we are both on the same side of the barricades and although thanks are appreciated, none are required.

My condolences to you and your family on your loss.

[TMM_John]

Just call me, I'll come get you.

[Babaganoosh]

For what it's worth they don't show up to about 90% of the funerals they say they're going to protest.

[Failed]

I just noticed the location of the church, and it's about an hour from where I live. If you do organize something, or need some help, I'll gladly drive down to lend a hand.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

For what it's worth they don't show up to about 90% of the funerals they say they're going to protest.

The problem is his mother has been doing a LOT of media. Flies to shit. If his family wasn't doing so much they probably wouldn't show up.

I talked to that biker group, Patriot Guard Riders and he said the same thing. The difference this time is the media attention the family has been getting. The biker group i called and 2 others are already planning on attending his wake/funeral to block the WBC people.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Failed

I just noticed the location of the church, and it's about an hour from where I live. If you do organize something, or need some help, I'll gladly drive down to lend a hand.

Thanks. Feel free to drop me a msg on icq or email me in the email in my original post. They are already planning on over 1000 people being at the wake/funeral, but more are always welcome and appreciated.

[TisMe]

I've protested against them before. Bring lots of people and force them to a location where they are not even within view of the funeral or procession.

Motorcycle clubs have almost always joined against these assclowns as many of them are Veterans themselves.

[SallyRand]

OK, any number of people around here don't like me but fuck'em!

I am going to tell you how to garner LOCAL support for your cause and I encourage ALL who have read this thread to do the SAME

Go here:

http://www2.ljworld.com/accounts/login/

Create an online account; it's free.

Once you have the online account you can create a blog and write about this situation.

Keep it clean, Boys and Girls or they will ban you but you WILL get responses and maybe even some kind of help with this.

Please, everyone who reads this post follow my instructions so that we can minimize he damage that the SICKOS of Westboro can do to besmirch the memory of one of our valiant warriors!

Lawrence, Kansas is a VERY "liberal" city and they fucking HATE Phred there, so beleive me.................

.if you do it right, keep it clean, make no threats and don't be crazy, you WILL gain support!

[Barry-xlovecam]

Protesting at funerals should be illegal ...
Unfortunately, it isn't.

But is is illegal to be a public nuisance ...
These right-wing-nut religious idiots should be arrested and forced to post bond for this ...

This is an abuse of "free speech rights."
This serves no real purpose other than to inflame ? it is inflammatory speech and that has legal limitations also ? we are beyond debate or opinion here.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Protesting at funerals should be illegal ...
Unfortunately, it isn't.

But is is illegal to be a public nuisance ...
These right-wing-nut religious idiots should be arrested and forced to post bond for this ...

This is an abuse of "free speech rights."
This serves no real purpose other than to inflame ? it is inflammatory speech and that has legal limitations also ? we are beyond debate or opinion here.

OK, any number of people around here don't like me but fuck'em!

I am going to tell you how to garner LOCAL support for your cause and I encourage ALL who have read this thread to do the SAME

Go here:

http://www2.ljworld.com/accounts/login/

Create an online account; it's free.

Once you have the online account you can create a blog and write about this situation.

Keep it clean, Boys and Girls or they will ban you but you WILL get responses and maybe even some kind of help with this.

Please, everyone who reads this post follow my instructions so that we can minimize he damage that the SICKOS of Westboro can do to besmirch the memory of one of our valiant warriors!

Lawrence, Kansas is a VERY "liberal" city and they fucking HATE Phred there, so beleive me.................

.if you do it right, keep it clean, make no threats and don't be crazy, you WILL gain support!

[uno]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Protesting at funerals should be illegal ...
Unfortunately, it isn't.

But is is illegal to be a public nuisance ...
These right-wing-nut religious idiots should be arrested and forced to post bond for this ...

This is an abuse of "free speech rights."
This serves no real purpose other than to inflame ? it is inflammatory speech and that has legal limitations also ? we are beyond debate or opinion here.

I thought there were laws against hate speech. Probably only certain types of it.

[Intrinsic]

http://bensalem.patch.com/articles/p...lwells-funeral

[IllTestYourGirls]

Sorry to hear this! What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Like others suggested get hold of the legion, they wont put up with shit and they are older and most likely have connections in high places in your city.

Good luck.

[Captain Kawaii]

If it were anywhere close I would stand with you...maybe some hacker peeps here can hack their bank accounts and drain their funds sending all to vet support groups? That would be justice without breaking an arm or leg...

[proton]

very good advice in this thread

[charlieb]

Originally Posted by TMM_John

Just call me, I'll come get you.

We are here just call if need us. Sorry to hear about this bullshit.


My condolences to your family.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by st0ned

I am very sorry to hear that. It is truly amazing how fucked up these religious types can get.

They had planned to picket the funeral of the shooting victims here in Tucson after the Gabrielle Giffords assassination attempt. Though we had no direct interests in going to the funeral my buddies and I planned to go down there and see what we could do to shield the friends and family from these pricks. They finally backed out once a radio station honored their request for some air time.

What amazes me is that there have been no actions to stop these assholes. I understand the need for free speech but come on, there is no positive outcome to the bullshit they pull.

That radio station would be edge102 in Toronto.

[Dead]

OOOOORRRRrr Go punch one of these fucks strait in the throat..Fuckin hard no bars hold, then get the fuck out of dodge! Sally has the level head advice ,nice post to fight this on the level....But if these fucks show up to try and pull this shit, I for one, would make sure that at least one would rethink his position at the next protest. Uno, I am Asshole from way back;) PC days and I think you will do the right thing here. At the very least it will not hurt to unload on one of these pieces of shits, and still keep yourself and family out of the crossfire.
Damn man, sorry to hear about the situations at hand, no easy answers here...

[Tickler]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Or a well trained Vet wearing a ski mask/gloves in a stolen car with an AR-15 doing a drive-by.

I always liked the Hawk MM-1

[moeloubani]

Yes, do it! Go out there and show them just how much you care about free speech.

Show them how much you respect that your sister's husband died fighting for the freedom to say and do those things.

Go ahead and run your own protest but violence? They are allowed to say what they want, isn't that why your sister's husband went overseas to fight in the first place?

Not saying I agree with their message (I don't) but I do agree with their right to say it. You have rights too, but you don't have the right to cause someone physical harm because of something they say. Stay within your rights or you will be the loser in the situation. I was born in Syria and there are some thing in Syria you just can't say. Is that how you want the US to be?

[Holly Lez!]

So sorry for your loss! And sorry that those hateful, small minded people are targeting your sister's husband.. Ugg I really hate reading this stuff!

[Fornicating]

Well I live in Brasil so its a bit of long haul flight, but I have posted the information on a couple of forums for you, so you might get some local support to keep these bastards a distance away from the funeral. Condolences to the family.

[RyuLion]

Congratzz!?

[SallyRand]

People; NO!

Do not physically fuck with any of the Westboro perverts in any way!

Pastor, Father(Possibly incestuous but defintitely ABUSIVE raised most of his family to become LAWYERS and they WILL sue whoever they and and they have WON in the past.

Yes, they have the right to Free Speech BUT SO DO WE!

I'm tellin' ya; do what I suggest and we on the side of FREE SPEECH will eventually PREVAIL!:

OK, any number of people around here don't like me but fuck'em!

I am going to tell you how to garner LOCAL support for your cause and I encourage ALL who have read this thread to do the SAME

Go here:

http://www2.ljworld.com/accounts/login/

Create an online account; it's free.

Once you have the online account you can create a blog and write about this situation.

Keep it clean, Boys and Girls or they will ban you but you WILL get responses and maybe even some kind of help with this.

Please, everyone who reads this post follow my instructions so that we can minimize he damage that the SICKOS of Westboro can do to besmirch the memory of one of our valiant warriors!

Lawrence, Kansas is a VERY "liberal" city and they fucking HATE Phred there, so beleive me.................

.if you do it right, keep it clean, make no threats and don't be crazy, you WILL gain support!

[uno]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

http://bensalem.patch.com/articles/p...lwells-funeral

Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that. 3 different similar groups are going to be at both wakes and the funeral. The captain in PA gave me the asst captain's # mentioned in that article in case i needed to talk to him.