More rules from big brother: Self extinguishing cigarettes.

[nico-t]

the thing about goverments is that there will never be less rules and regulations, but more, more, more. It doesn't matter what the new rules are, it is almost always another breach in our freedom. Whether you agree with the rule or not is not the point: No rule is always better if you value your personal freedom, like you should.

The newest rule here in the Netherlands i noticed was yesterday. I was smoking a cigarette, watching a movie, just relaxing in my private life. It went out by itself in my hand. I thought huh? So a while later i smoked another one, same thing happened. Then i came to the conclusion it are crappy 'fire safe' cigarettes. I felt kind of betrayed, again, by the goddamn government. Just checked some news sites and yep, the EU pushed this down our throats without asking any of the people, like always. By november this year, every cigarette must be 'fire safe' so it is slowly being enrolled now.

The EU thinks of something, and the dutch government says, ofcourse, yes to everything, because our government is amongst the most spineless, sneaky and greedy governments in the world.

What is the problem here? Democracy and the voice of the people are completely skipped. The people only notice the change in a news article or when experiencing that new rule, like i did with this one. In both cases, it is too late because the new rule is already in effect.

[BIGTYMER]

Nice to see it's not only America controlling our every move.

[kane]

While it is the government the buckles and implements these laws it is almost always big business that is behind them. The reason there are seatbelt laws are not because the government wants to protect us, it is because the auto insurance companies wanted them so that if there is an accident the odds of serious injury go down and with that so do their potential liabilities.

Likely this is a similar thing. I'm sure some insurance company checked out a study that showed how many fires and injuries occur each year from cigarettes and they decided to get a law passed to reduce that number so they would have to pay out less.

[nico-t]

Yea i know, everything a government does is based on money. And the sneaky way of pushing these things through bothers me, i always feel more and more boxed in and betrayed. Politicians are the scum of the earth the way they lie and manipulate, and for the people that believe them I have no respect.
You know them: "It doesnt bother me so i am all for it", or "it's saver so I think it's a good idea". They dont see the big picture how their freedom is getting smaller with every new rule.

[AdultKing]

Most of us will experience cigarettes being banned from sale in our lifetimes I believe.

If the concept of a cigarette was launched today it would not be allowed to be sold, there is no way a modern Government would allow such a dangerous product onto the market.

We have had self extinguishing cigarettes by law in Australia for over 2 years. Later this year plain packaging of all cigarettes comes into force together with a new tax hike bringing the cost of some packs of 25 to $20.

[TorchWood]

Wow, that sucks, invisible chains everywhere.

[Relentless]

Wonder what chemical they use for that and how healthy it is for you to be smoking it...

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Relentless

Wonder what chemical they use for that and how healthy it is for you to be smoking it...

as if any other part of the cigarette would be healthy to smoke

[BlackCrayon]

they' been doing that for years here in canada. i don't think its a law though, just something the cigarette companies started doing.

[nico-t]

no that's not true, cigarette companies dont like it, more costs to produce.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by nico-t

no that's not true, cigarette companies dont like it, more costs to produce.

Looks like you are right. They talk about the chemicals used here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_safe_cigarette

Canada, 37 states, australia and now the EU have laws requiring this.

[Sly]

The issue I have with this law is it creates yet another chemical that users will undoubtedly inhale, will most likely be harmful to the earth, and probably have additional side effects to non-smokers.

More chemicals. Joy.

[MrCain]

I once read that the EU even regulated the shape of apples, pears, strawberries and tomatoes.

[Sly]

Currently there are no findings published on the long term health effects on humans of inhaling EVA co-polymers. Results of tests conducted on rodents show the risks associated with 'Ethylene Vinyl Acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive' include triggering the cellular proliferation necessary for tumor development.[4]

It should also be duly noted that burning any organic material without sufficient Oxygen increases the production of Carbon Monoxide. So, whether or not the additional added chemicals have any direct impact on long-term health, repeatedly inhaling the fumes of an Oxygen starved ember greatly increases long-term Carbon Monoxide exposure. Many of the symptoms reported by smokers are (coincidentally, or not) known side-effects of Carbon Monoxide exposure.

Weeee...

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Most of us will experience cigarettes being banned from sale in our lifetimes I believe.

If the concept of a cigarette was launched today it would not be allowed to be sold, there is no way a modern Government would allow such a dangerous product onto the market.

We have had self extinguishing cigarettes by law in Australia for over 2 years. Later this year plain packaging of all cigarettes comes into force together with a new tax hike bringing the cost of some packs of 25 to $20.

I think you'll find that is in Vic only right now. The rest haven't adopted the fire safe cigarettes just yet. Started not long after the bush fires.

[nico-t]

Yes i agree with the chemicals concern. It's astonishing that in this day and age cigarettes are becoming more harmful by government order. The world upside down.

[barcodes]

I don't think we have that in the us yet, the govt. just made them hire a graphic designer lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/he...y/22smoke.html

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by georgeyw

I think you'll find that is in Vic only right now. The rest haven't adopted the fire safe cigarettes just yet. Started not long after the bush fires.

It's an Australia wide mandatory standard regulated by the ACCC.


http://www.productsafety.gov.au/cont...mItemId/974709

[F-U-Jimmy]

Heres a few of the 4000 + chemicals so far found in fags


0. Acetanisole
0. Acetic Acid
0. Acetoin
0. Acetophenone
0. 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
0. 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
0. 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
0. Acetylpyrazine
0. 2-Acetylpyridine
0. 3-Acetylpyridine
0. 2-Acetylthiazole
0. Aconitic Acid
0. dl-Alanine
0. Alfalfa Extract
0. Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
0. Allyl Hexanoate
0. Allyl Ionone
0. Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
0. Ammonia
0. Ammonium Bicarbonate
0. Ammonium Hydroxide
0. Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
0. Ammonium Sulfide
0. Amyl Alcohol
0. Amyl Butyrate
0. Amyl Formate
0. Amyl Octanoate
0. alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
0. trans-Anethole
0. Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
0. Anise
0. Anise Star, Extract and Oils
0. Anisyl Acetate
0. Anisyl Alcohol
0. Anisyl Formate
0. Anisyl Phenylacetate
0. Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
0. Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
0. 1-Arginine
0. Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
0. Ascorbic Acid
0. 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
0. 1-Aspartic Acid
0. Balsam Peru and Oil
0. Basil Oil
0. Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
0. Beeswax White
0. Beet Juice Concentrate
0. Benzaldehyde
0. Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
0. Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
0. Benzoin Resin
0. Benzophenone
0. Benzyl Alcohol
0. Benzyl Benzoate
0. Benzyl Butyrate
0. Benzyl Cinnamate
0. Benzyl Propionate
0. Benzyl Salicylate
0. Bergamot Oil
0. Bisabolene
0. Black Currant Buds Absolute
0. Borneol
0. Bornyl Acetate
0. Buchu Leaf Oil
0. 1,3-Butanediol
0. 2,3-Butanedione
0. 1-Butanol
0. 2-Butanone
0. 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
0. Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
0. Butyl Acetate
0. Butyl Butyrate
0. Butyl Butyryl Lactate
0. Butyl Isovalerate
0. Butyl Phenylacetate
0. Butyl Undecylenate
0. 3-Butylidenephthalide
0. Butyric Acid]
0. Cadinene
0. Caffeine
0. Calcium Carbonate
0. Camphene
0. Cananga Oil
0. Capsicum Oleoresin
0. Caramel Color
0. Caraway Oil
0. Carbon Dioxide
0. Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
0. Carob Bean and Extract
0. beta-Carotene
0. Carrot Oil
0. Carvacrol
0. 4-Carvomenthenol
0. 1-Carvone
0. beta-Caryophyllene
0. beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
0. Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
0. Cassia Bark Oil
0. Cassie Absolute and Oil
0. Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
0. Cedar Leaf Oil
0. Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
0. Cedrol
0. Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
0. Cellulose Fiber
0. Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
0. Chicory Extract
0. Chocolate
0. Cinnamaldehyde
0. Cinnamic Acid
0. Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
0. Cinnamyl Acetate
0. Cinnamyl Alcohol
0. Cinnamyl Cinnamate
0. Cinnamyl Isovalerate
0. Cinnamyl Propionate
0. Citral
0. Citric Acid
0. Citronella Oil
0. dl-Citronellol
0. Citronellyl Butyrate
0. itronellyl Isobutyrate
0. Civet Absolute
0. Clary Oil
0. Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
0. Cocoa
0. Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
0. Coconut Oil
0. Coffee
0. Cognac White and Green Oil
0. Copaiba Oil
0. Coriander Extract and Oil
0. Corn Oil
0. Corn Silk
0. Costus Root Oil
0. Cubeb Oil
0. Cuminaldehyde
0. para-Cymene
0. 1-Cysteine

0. Decanoic Acid
0. 1-Decanol
0. 2-Decenal
0. Dehydromenthofurolactone
0. Diethyl Malonate
0. Diethyl Sebacate
0. 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
0. Dihydro Anethole
0. 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
0. Dill Seed Oil and Extract
0. meta-Dimethoxybenzene
0. para-Dimethoxybenzene
0. 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
0. Dimethyl Succinate
0. 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
0. 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
0. 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
0. 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
0. 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
0. 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
0. 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
0. alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
0. alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
0. alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
0. 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
0. 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
0. 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
0. Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
0. delta-Dodecalactone
0. gamma-Dodecalactone
0. para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
0. Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
0. Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
0. Ethyl Acetate
0. Ethyl Acetoacetate
0. Ethyl Alcohol
0. Ethyl Benzoate
0. Ethyl Butyrate
0. Ethyl Cinnamate
0. Ethyl Decanoate
0. Ethyl Fenchol
0. Ethyl Furoate
0. Ethyl Heptanoate
0. Ethyl Hexanoate
0. Ethyl Isovalerate
0. Ethyl Lactate
0. Ethyl Laurate
0. Ethyl Levulinate
0. Ethyl Maltol
0. Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
0. Ethyl Myristate
0. Ethyl Nonanoate
0. Ethyl Octadecanoate
0. Ethyl Octanoate
0. Ethyl Oleate
0. Ethyl Palmitate
0. Ethyl Phenylacetate
0. Ethyl Propionate
0. Ethyl Salicylate
0. Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
0. Ethyl Valerate
0. Ethyl Vanillin
0. 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
0. 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
0. 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
0. 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
0. 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
0. 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
0. 4-Ethylguaiacol
0. para-Ethylphenol
0. 3-Ethylpyridine
0. Eucalyptol
0. Farnesol
0. D-Fenchone
0. Fennel Sweet Oil
0. Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
0. Fig Juice Concentrate
0. Food Starch Modified
0. Furfuryl Mercaptan
0. 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
0. Galbanum Oil
0. Genet Absolute
0. Gentian Root Extract
0. Geraniol
0. Geranium Rose Oil
0. Geranyl Acetate
0. Geranyl Butyrate
0. Geranyl Formate
0. Geranyl Isovalerate
0. Geranyl Phenylacetate
0. Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
0. 1-Glutamic Acid
0. 1-Glutamine
0. Glycerol
0. Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
0. Grape Juice Concentrate
0. Guaiac Wood Oil
0. Guaiacol
0. Guar Gum
0. 2,4-Heptadienal
0. gamma-Heptalactone
0. Heptanoic Acid
0. 2-Heptanone
0. 3-Hepten-2-One
0. 2-Hepten-4-One
0. 4-Heptenal
0. trans -2-Heptenal
0. Heptyl Acetate
0. omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
0. gamma-Hexalactone
0. Hexanal
0. Hexanoic Acid
0. 2-Hexen-1-Ol
0. 3-Hexen-1-Ol
0. cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
0. 2-Hexenal
0. 3-Hexenoic Acid
0. trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
0. cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
0. Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
0. Hexyl Acetate
0. Hexyl Alcohol
0. Hexyl Phenylacetate
0. 1-Histidine
0. Honey
0. Hops Oil
0. Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
0. Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
0. 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
0. 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
0. 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
0. 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
0. 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
0. 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
0. Hydroxycitronellal
0. 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
0. 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
0. Hyssop Oil
0. Immortelle Absolute and Extract
0. alpha-Ionone
0. beta-Ionone
0. alpha-Irone
0. Isoamyl Acetate
0. Isoamyl Benzoate
0. Isoamyl Butyrate
0. Isoamyl Cinnamate
0. Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
0. Isoamyl Isovalerate
0. Isoamyl Octanoate
0. Isoamyl Phenylacetate
0. Isobornyl Acetate
0. Isobutyl Acetate
0. Isobutyl Alcohol
0. Isobutyl Cinnamate
0. Isobutyl Phenylacetate
0. Isobutyl Salicylate
0. 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
0. alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
0. Isobutyraldehyde
0. Isobutyric Acid
0. d,l-Isoleucine
0. alpha-Isomethylionone
0. 2-Isopropylphenol
0. Isovaleric Acid
0. Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
0. Kola Nut Extract
0. Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
0. Lactic Acid
0. Lauric Acid
0. Lauric Aldehyde
0. Lavandin Oil
0. Lavender Oil
0. Lemon Oil and Extract
0. Lemongrass Oil
0. 1-Leucine
0. Levulinic Acid
0. Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
0. Lime Oil
0. Linalool
0. Linalool Oxide
0. Linalyl Acetate
0. Linden Flowers
0. Lovage Oil And Extract
0. 1-Lysine]
0. Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
0. Magnesium Carbonate
0. Malic Acid
0. Malt and Malt Extract
0. Maltodextrin
0. Maltol
0. Maltyl Isobutyrate
0. Mandarin Oil
0. Maple Syrup and Concentrate
0. Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
0. para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
0. Menthol
0. Menthone
0. Menthyl Acetate
0. dl-Methionine
0. Methoprene
0. 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
0. 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
0. para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
0. 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
0. 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
0. 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
0. Methoxypyrazine
0. Methyl 2-Furoate
0. Methyl 2-Octynoate
0. Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
0. Methyl Anisate
0. Methyl Anthranilate
0. Methyl Benzoate
0. Methyl Cinnamate
0. Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
0. Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
0. Methyl Isovalerate
0. Methyl Linoleate (48%)
0. Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
0. Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
0. Methyl Nicotinate
0. Methyl Phenylacetate
0. Methyl Salicylate
0. Methyl Sulfide
0. 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
0. 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
0. 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
0. 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
0. 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
0. 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
0. 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
0. 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
0. 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
0. 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
0. 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
0. 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
0. 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole

[F-U-Jimmy]

Heres some more



0. Methyl-alpha-Ionone
0. Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
0. 4-Methylacetophenone
0. para-Methylanisole
0. alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
0. alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
0. 2-Methylbutyraldehyde
0. 3-Methylbutyraldehyde
0. 2-Methylbutyric Acid
0. alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
0. Methylcyclopentenolone
0. 2-Methylheptanoic Acid
0. 2-Methylhexanoic Acid
0. 3-Methylpentanoic Acid
0. 4-Methylpentanoic Acid
0. 2-Methylpyrazine
0. 5-Methylquinoxaline
0. 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
0. (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
0. 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
0. Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
0. 2-Methylvaleric Acid
0. Mimosa Absolute and Extract
0. Molasses Extract and Tincture
0. Mountain Maple Solid Extract
0. Mullein Flowers
0. Myristaldehyde
0. Myristic Acid
0. Myrrh Oil
0. beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
0. Nerol
0. Neroli Bigarde Oil
0. Nerolidol
0. Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
0. 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
0. gamma-Nonalactone
0. Nonanal
0. Nonanoic Acid
0. Nonanone
0. trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
0. 2-Nonenal
0. Nonyl Acetate
0. Nutmeg Powder and Oil
0. Oak Chips Extract and Oil
0. Oak Moss Absolute
0. 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
0. delta-Octalactone
0. gamma-Octalactone
0. Octanal
0. Octanoic Acid
0. 1-Octanol
0. 2-Octanone
0. 3-Octen-2-One
0. 1-Octen-3-Ol
0. 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
0. 2-Octenal
0. Octyl Isobutyrate
0. Oleic Acid
0. Olibanum Oil
0. Opoponax Oil And Gum
0. Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
0. Orange Oil and Extract
0. Origanum Oil
0. Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
0. Palmarosa Oil
0. Palmitic Acid
0. Parsley Seed Oil
0. Patchouli Oil
0. omega-Pentadecalactone
0. 2,3-Pentanedione
0. 2-Pentanone
0. 4-Pentenoic Acid
0. 2-Pentylpyridine
0. Pepper Oil, Black And White
0. Peppermint Oil
0. Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
0. Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
0. alpha-Phellandrene
0. 2-Phenenthyl Acetate
0. Phenenthyl Alcohol
0. Phenethyl Butyrate
0. Phenethyl Cinnamate
0. Phenethyl Isobutyrate
0. Phenethyl Isovalerate
0. Phenethyl Phenylacetate
0. Phenethyl Salicylate
0. 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
0. 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
0. 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
0. 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
0. 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
0. Phenylacetaldehyde
0. Phenylacetic Acid
0. 1-Phenylalanine
0. 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
0. 3-Phenylpropionic Acid
0. 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
0. 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
0. 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
0. Phosphoric Acid
0. Pimenta Leaf Oil
0. Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
0. Pineapple Juice Concentrate
0. alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
0. D-Piperitone
0. Piperonal
0. Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
0. Plum Juice
0. Potassium Sorbate
0. 1-Proline
0. Propenylguaethol
0. Propionic Acid
0. Propyl Acetate
0. Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
0. Propylene Glycol
0. 3-Propylidenephthalide
0. Prune Juice and Concentrate
0. Pyridine
0. Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
0. Pyrrole
0. Pyruvic Acid
0. Raisin Juice Concentrate
0. Rhodinol
0. Rose Absolute and Oil
0. Rosemary Oil
0. Rum
0. Rum Ether
0. Rye Extract
0. Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
0. Salicylaldehyde
0. Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
0. Sclareolide
0. Skatole
0. Smoke Flavor
0. Snakeroot Oil
0. Sodium Acetate
0. Sodium Benzoate
0. Sodium Bicarbonate
0. Sodium Carbonate
0. Sodium Chloride
0. Sodium Citrate
0. Sodium Hydroxide
0. Solanone
0. Spearmint Oil
0. Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
0. Sucrose Octaacetate
0. Sugar Alcohols
0. Sugars
0. Tagetes Oil
0. Tannic Acid
0. Tartaric Acid
0. Tea Leaf and Absolute
0. alpha-Terpineol
0. Terpinolene
0. Terpinyl Acetate
0. 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
0. 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
0. 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
0. 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
0. Thiamine Hydrochloride
0. Thiazole
0. 1-Threonine
0. Thyme Oil, White and Red
0. Thymol
0. Tobacco Extracts
0. Tochopherols (mixed)
0. Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
0. Tolualdehydes
0. para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
0. para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
0. para-Tolyl Acetate
0. para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
0. para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
0. Triacetin
0. 2-Tridecanone
0. 2-Tridecenal
0. Triethyl Citrate
0. 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
0. para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
0. 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
0. 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
0. 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
0. 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
0. 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
0. 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
0. 1-Tyrosine
0. delta-Undercalactone
0. gamma-Undecalactone
0. Undecanal
0. 2-Undecanone, 1
0. 0-Undecenal
0. Urea
0. Valencene
0. Valeraldehyde
0. Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
0. Valeric Acid
0. gamma-Valerolactone
0. Valine
0. Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
0. Vanillin
0. Veratraldehyde
0. Vetiver Oil
0. Vinegar
0. Violet Leaf Absolute
0. Walnut Hull Extract
0. Water
0. Wheat Extract And Flour
0. Wild Cherry Bark Extract
0. Wine and Wine Sherry
0. Xanthan Gum
0. 3,4-Xylenol
0. Yeast

[BestXXXPorn]

Switch to ecigs... but don't buy a crappy one. I have now converted every single one of my friends who smoke to ecigs and every single person has quit immediately.

The trick is to get a quality ecig and find a liquid that you really like (or a bunch of them). The ProVape ProVari is by far the bet ecig and allows you to use any type of atomizer or cartomizer.

The best thing about using the ecig. I can't even stand the taste of an analog cigarette any more (AKA anal logs). Previously, when I've quit smoking (in some cases for over a year) they tasted great if I tried one again. Now I can't get past three drags without tossing it. Tastes like crap.

Seriously, buy a quality ecig and a quality atomizer. I guarantee you won't go back to smoking and it's cheaper past the initial investment, by far. It has been 100% effective with 12 of my friends. If I knew any other smokers personally, I would have converted them by now as well.

[Wizzo]

Yeah, its all 50states now and I hate them.

[B.Barnato]

haha oh wow thanks for letting me know, just yesterday I had a cigarette go out and again today just thought I had gotten a bad batch or something.

[alias]

Time to switch to weed, should make the movie more interesting anyway. =]

[Rochard]

People still smoke?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by B.Barnato

haha oh wow thanks for letting me know, just yesterday I had a cigarette go out and again today just thought I had gotten a bad batch or something.

lol, that is exactly what i thought at first as well!

I am now looking into e-cigs, thanks for the tip BestXXXPorn.

[amateurbfs]

Originally Posted by Relentless

Wonder what chemical they use for that and how healthy it is for you to be smoking it...

Smoke a joint or a cigar and let it sit for a minute, it goes out... Cigarettes used to be kept burning due to paper content in with the tobacco.... Maybe they took that shit out? These cigarettes may be better for you retards who smoke them!

[thickcash_amo]

Oh but its for our own safetly, so thank you government officials keeping us safe!



oh and

[Agent 488]

the leading cause of house fires is cigarettes. this is a good thing.

[baddog]

If you smokers would be responsible you would not have these issues. Stop burning down your homes because you fell asleep with a cig in your hand.

[magicmike]

Originally Posted by baddog

If you smokers would be responsible you would not have these issues. Stop burning down your homes because you fell asleep with a cig in your hand.

What I was going to say.

Its prb. saving more lives then killing people.

[JamesGw]

That's pretty insane.

[Eyeball]

So your cancer stick went out, who gives a fuck.

People need protecting from smokers and their filthy habit. Weither it's passive smoking or the newborn baby that gets burned alive due to it's cool parents falling asleep with a fag in their mouth. If it saves a handful of innocent lives it's a worthy regulation.

[cooldude7]

i hate limitations and restrictions.,

everything should be manual, not automatic unless i tell them to.

I want control......no matter what.

p.s. i m drunk