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Old 09-01-2011, 05:46 AM   #1
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Again, OBAMA bends over and takes it without lube !!!!

... doesn't that guy have any balls or spine ? Bush would have said to fuck off ...

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After jobs speech dust-up, Obama agrees to change date
Speaker Boehner objected to Sept. 7, citing 'impediments' on GOP debate night

President Barack Obama agreed late Wednesday to delay a planned jobs speech to a joint session of Congress by one day after House Speaker John Boehner objected to the date the White House originally sought.

Obama had asked to address Congress with his much-anticipated jobs proposal at 8 p.m. EDT next Wednesday, a time that would have overlapped with a previously scheduled Republican presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., sponsored by NBC News and POLITICO.

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Obama's address still gives him a grand stage to unveil his economic agenda, but it falls on the same evening as the opening game of the National Football League season.

The timing dispute created an inauspicious start to the jobs debate and introduced tensions before Congress even returns from its annual summer recess.

It began with the White House releasing the letter at noon Wednesday from Obama to Boehner and Reid requesting they convene a joint session of Congress for his address at 8 p.m. on Sept. 7.

Usually, presidential requests to address Congress are routinely granted after consultations between the White House and lawmakers.

In this case, the White House notified Boehner's office on the same day it released the letter requesting the session.

One GOP aide had complained that the White House alerted Boehner only 15 minutes before releasing its original letter requesting Sept. 7. The aide hinted that such short notice was a tad disrespectful.

A White House official responded, saying: "Boehner?s office was consulted about the 9/7 date before the letter was released. No objection/concern was raised," so the letter went out.

But Boehner's office said that the White House account was not accurate.

"No one in the speaker's office ? not the speaker, not any staff ? signed off on the date the White House announced today," said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck. "Unfortunately we weren't even asked if that date worked for the House. Shortly before it arrived this morning, we were simply informed that a letter was coming. It's unfortunate the White House ignored decades ? if not centuries ? of the protocol of working out a mutually agreeable date and time before making any public announcement."

But NBC's Luke Russert tweeted on Wednesday evening that a House historian labeled Boehner's public rebuff as unprecedented.

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.. Makes you wonder who is the fucking POTUS ...
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Old 09-01-2011, 05:58 AM   #2
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These government pigs in congress need to not worry about football and deal with issues!

I agree, obama should grow some balls and tell this assholes they can forget football and start doing their job.

Just another reason why we as citizens need to kick these worthless fucks in congress to the curb and get elect fresh people to do the job they are being paid to do.

FUCK CONGRESS and double fuck Boehner
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So he scheduled this big, speech, one where he is supposed to act as a "statesman", in proposing how to help get new jobs started.... and he sets the speech to be the same time as the opposing parties debate, so as to divide the country between people that will watch his speech and people that will watch the debate?

Sounds to me like he was just playing politics with the timing of a speech that is supposed to be about the country, NOT about politics.



Just my personal opinion here. I'm sure every partisan hack will flame it.




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this part seems important-

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"No one in the speaker's office ? not the speaker, not any staff ? signed off on the date the White House announced today," said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck. "Unfortunately we weren't even asked if that date worked for the House. Shortly before it arrived this morning, we were simply informed that a letter was coming. It's unfortunate the White House ignored decades ? if not centuries ? of the protocol of working out a mutually agreeable date and time before making any public announcement."
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So he scheduled this big, speech, one where he is supposed to act as a "statesman", in proposing how to help get new jobs started.... and he sets the speech to be the same time as the opposing parties debate, so as to divide the country between people that will watch his speech and people that will watch the debate?

Sounds to me like he was just playing politics with the timing of a speech that is supposed to be about the country, NOT about politics.



Just my personal opinion here. I'm sure every partisan hack will flame it.





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You are a partisan hack .... always line up behind it .. You would not be able to write of your leader(s) what I wrote about Obama..

Now, read the article again, removing your GOP / Tea filters ...

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?The childish behavior coming out of the Speaker?s office today is truly historic. It is unprecedented to reject the date that a President wants to address a Joint Session of the Congress. People die and state funerals are held with less fuss, so the logistics excuse by the Speaker?s office is laughable. Yes, consultation always occurs, but the President always gets the date he wants.?
.. not this president ... The NO party has a firm bite on his ass....
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this part seems important-
so does this one :

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A White House official responded, saying: "Boehner?s office was consulted about the 9/7 date before the letter was released. No objection/concern was raised," so the letter went out.
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You would not be able to write of your leader(s) what I wrote about Obama..


I have major problems with both sides. I don't have a leader that represents me in power.... except Ron Paul, and he is being completely shut out by Democrats and Republicans and the media.

And your quote about childish behavior is obviously a political statement, designed to provoke a response. Not some reasoned reference by an unbiased observer.

Seriously, do you not ever have an opinion against any Democrat policy or politician, except when they don't push the agenda hard enough. Doesn't matter if they don't pay their taxes, while exhorting the rest of us to pay more, etc, etc, etc....


Never mind, talking to a wall here, I know.



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They moved it to the same night as the opening NFL game between NO and GB. I'm sure everyone is going to be glued to their chairs watching a speech rather than football.
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so does this one :
you pointed that side out already. not sure why the wh's spin is more accurate than boner's.
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I have major problems with both sides. I don't have a leader that represents me in power.... except Ron Paul, and he is being completely shut out by Democrats and Republicans and the media.

And your quote about childish behavior is obviously a political statement, designed to provoke a response. Not some reasoned reference by an unbiased observer.

Seriously, do you not ever have an opinion against any Democrat policy or politician
, except when they don't push the agenda hard enough. Doesn't matter if they don't pay their taxes, while exhorting the rest of us to pay more, etc, etc, etc....


Never mind, talking to a wall here, I know.




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You are so wrong ( contrary to you and your gang that are always RIGHT ).

In 2003, when the dems votes massively to support the invasion of a sovereign country , I was against all of them ... starting with Kerry ...
When Obama decided to extend the patriot act provisions, I was against all who supported that.
Same for the extension of the so-called Bush Tax Cuts ..

I will stop here, as a piece of lumber cannot comprehend ....
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you pointed that side out already. not sure why the wh's spin is more accurate than boner's.
I had pointed BOTH ... you know ... fair & balanced...

You chosed to highlight only the one that fits your agenda , I balanced that vback.

Just like the debt ceiling, please tell me when such a situation ever happened in the past ... ( please post link as well ... ) .
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I had pointed BOTH ... you know ... fair & balanced...

You chosed to highlight only the one that fits your agenda , I balanced that vback.

Just like the debt ceiling, please tell me when such a situation ever happened in the past ... ( please post link as well ... ) .
where did you point both sides out?

what is my agenda?

what does the debt ceiling have to do with this?

post a link to what?
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where did you point both sides out?
Line 23 of my original post .... ( need a screen shot ? )
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So he scheduled this big, speech, one where he is supposed to act as a "statesman", in proposing how to help get new jobs started.... and he sets the speech to be the same time as the opposing parties debate, so as to divide the country between people that will watch his speech and people that will watch the debate?

Sounds to me like he was just playing politics with the timing of a speech that is supposed to be about the country, NOT about politics.



Just my personal opinion here. I'm sure every partisan hack will flame it.




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Here we go again.
Yes, we all know about your opinion.
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In 2003, when the dems votes massively to support the invasion of a sovereign country , I was against all of them ... starting with Kerry ...
When Obama decided to extend the patriot act provisions, I was against all who supported that.
Same for the extension of the so-called Bush Tax Cuts ..
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Line 23 of my original post .... ( need a screen shot ? )
no, you picked out and highlighted, bolded, and enlarged all the points around that comment that originated from the white house and you chose to not point out out, highlight or emphasis anything from the boner side.

nevertheless, my *agenda* is simply that i don't believe either side on this(why would i believe either one of these entities more than the other on this), it's more stupid bullshit from obama v boner and a yet another example of our dysfunctional government.
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I have major problems with both sides. I don't have a leader that represents me in power....

Well, this 'wall' right here shares the above sentiment 100%. I can't remember a time when the people with the power didn't make me fear for certain of my civil rights (different ones depending upon which 'side' was riding the horse at the time) and which I didn't feel was completely alienated from and clueless about what it's really like to be one of the common folk.

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They moved it to the same night as the opening NFL game between NO and GB. I'm sure everyone is going to be glued to their chairs watching a speech rather than football.
Brilliant.

Last time I checked there were seven days in each and every week and 365 days in a year and yet the boneheads around Obama can't pick an alternative night where people might actually sit down and watch his speech.

The op is right, Obama should have told boner to go to hell and stuck with his original plan.
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Obamateurism #1 - NBC News and Politico had this debate scheduled for months, just goes to show you how out of touch the current administration is with whats going on.

Obamateurism #2 - Scheduling it on the opening night of NFL...needs no explanation as to how dumb this idea is.
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Just my personal opinion here. I'm sure every partisan hack will flame it.


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LOL at the ultra Partisan Right Wing Tea Bagger who thinks he has a personal opinion..

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Lets see he can avoid a conflict with Dancing With The Stars but is incompantent when it comes to a scheduling conflict with the opposition party?

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...th-the-stars/1

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Before such a big speech is scheduled, the White House works with the television networks on an acceptable time, which can range from 7:30 p.m. to 9 p.m., depending on what's going on.
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LOL at the ultra Partisan Right Wing Tea Bagger who thinks he has a personal opinion..
As opposed to your personal opinion about him...right!
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