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Old 09-09-2011, 11:15 AM   #1
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USD$ almost at par with CAD$ again

Hit .9978 today

Gooooo greenback!

Maybe I can stop stockpiling money I can't use around here sometime soon... :P

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/currencies/tools
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:18 AM   #2
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its still 97.2 at the bank though. theiving bastards.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:20 AM   #3
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Yes noticed dollar growing like crazy against all currencies.Any idea why?Dont remember when it was such a jump.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:23 AM   #4
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the dollar is not growing, the rest is deflating.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:43 AM   #5
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Also when stocks dive, US$ rises. When people take the money out of the market, it has to go somewhere.

Here's something that bothered me for years, and it took a long time to find out the answer.

As BlackCrayon says, the bank doesn't give you the posted rates, you always get ~2.5% less. Yet they don't give you a receipt for this 2.5% fee. Why is it that the bank can charge me a 2.5% fee, and NOT GIVE ME A FUCKING RECEIPT?!!@$ If I got a receipt, I could claim that as an expense (which it is...) against my taxes.

So why is their fee never itemized on my withdrawal slip?

I asked tellers, branch managers, called 1-800 numbers of multiple banks - nobody could explain it to me.

Finally I asked on Reddit.

Turns out they treat money as a product. They're selling you this product. Their markup isn't an expense anymore than the 60% markup on Jeans at the mall is. So what they're charging isn't a "fee" at all, it's a profit margin.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:44 AM   #6
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Ah the US$ can stay in the shitter for now, I'm not done buying property south of the border.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:23 PM   #7
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It feels like just yesterday US companies were rushing to move their call centers and other labor intensive positions to Canada to save 50%.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:25 PM   #8
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It feels like just yesterday US companies were rushing to move their call centers and other labor intensive positions to Canada to save 50%.
Ah, the good old days..
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:39 PM   #9
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Yes noticed dollar growing like crazy against all currencies.Any idea why?Dont remember when it was such a jump.
As bad as the US situation is the the EU is worse
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:41 PM   #10
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i know a way to convert your usd/cad at the market rate without banks bullshit fees, $1k for info
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:14 PM   #11
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I have a US account at TD Canada Trust and - perhaps because I've grown a relationship over the last thirteen years or so - I get an excellent exchange rate. A lot less than 2.5%.

On the other hand, CIBC absolutely rapes me on the exchange.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:19 PM   #12
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Yet they don't give you a receipt for this 2.5% fee. Why is it that the bank can charge me a 2.5% fee, and NOT GIVE ME A FUCKING RECEIPT?!!@$ If I got a receipt, I could claim that as an expense (which it is...) against my taxes.
Because you don't actually have any "real money" until it is converted thus you
had no income until the teller put the money back into your hand which doesn't
include the 2.5% fee you paid.


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Old 09-09-2011, 07:10 PM   #13
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Noticed this as well.
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:18 PM   #14
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its still 97.2 at the bank though. theiving bastards.
you can say that again - and the same for Paypal.
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:51 PM   #15
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So what they're charging isn't a "fee" at all, it's a profit margin.
yes of course that's exactly what it is. and our fucking government allows it - it's rape. there is no way in hell that a bank can justify a 2.5% profit on currency exchange - it's robbery.

an analogy - i have been sent a nice birthday present by an American relative, a 100 dollar American bill inside a birthday card. I go off to the bank to exchange the US bill for Canadian money, they give me 97.50 Canadian. Oh well......... I walk out of my bank and suddenly it pops in my mind I have another American relative who is having a birthday next week and I want to send them a 100 dollar American bill in a birthday card. I go back to the teller - of course they won't give me the 100 dollar bill back i just deposited. So I ask to buy an American 100 dollar bill and I hand them the 97.50 - ohhhh, not enough, we're sorry.

and that goes on 24/7 365 days a year to the tune of billions and billions of dollars - ripping off Canadians going both ways on the same 100 dollar bill. and there's absolutely no justification for it other than the government and people let them get away with it.
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:59 PM   #16
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USD going above par today for sure! .9990 in early morning Asia trading, US dollar going up today.

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