Post CONSPIRACY THEORIES that turned out to be TRUE

[$5 submissions]

It's 9/11 again and as usual, the dramafest between the "truthers" and "conspiracy haters" flares up again like an embarrassing case of herpes. In an effort to shed LIGHT instead of generating more heat on the issue of conspiracies, please (please please please please) post examples of CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.

Here's a small scale one but pretty jacked up nonetheless... The Tuskegee Experiment. Racism plus medical conspiracy = tragedy.



Another conspiracy that turned out to be true: General Motors conspiring to drive the street car out of existence so automobiles can clog up the streets and pump out all that awsome pollution

Source (among tons of others): http://ehistory.osu.edu/osu/mmh/OldColumbus/trans.cfm

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[Brujah]

Wiki had a whole section on this very topic, if I can find it again.

[wehateporn]

CODEX used to be a conspiracy as did the NWO

Whereas now the EU is bringing CODEX in and the world leaders openly speak about the NWO

Also people used to warn that the Swine Flu vaccine was to damage developing ovaries and the HPV vaccine was to make it difficult for a woman to carry a full-term pregnancy. I'm hearing lots of reports through people I know that some of those who received the HPV vaccine have now discovered they have fertility issues.

[D Ghost]

33 that turned out to be true... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=31137

http://www.cracked.com/article_15974...-happened.html

[directfiesta]

Sally Rand is an old man posing as an young chick...

Turned out to be TRUE !

[Lucy - CSC]

Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

Author James Bamford, "A Pretext For War", discusses the declassified "Operation Northwoods" documents revealing that in 1962 the CIA was planning to stage phony terrorist attacks on the US and blame it on Cuba to start a war:

I find it strange that people ridicule 9 11 truthers yet this is actually true.

[TeenCat]

i remember some banging of credit cards or what ...

[wehateporn]

Once upon a time The Mellon Institute was paid money to produce studies proving that Asbestos was safe. They did so, meaning that money didn't have to be paid out to those suffering from mesothelioma. Eventually, as you know the dam broke and now Asbestos is being removed from buildings all around the world. I'm sure many of you know the story of the Asbestos in the Twin Towers; it was cheaper to have the towers demolished that to remove the Asbestos. The Port Authority was desperate for a demolition but it was not permitted.

Back to the The Mellon Institute, the Aluminium industry was due to pay out large sums of money for Fluoride poisoning, so they paid The Mellon Institute to prove that Fluoride was safe. This time The Mellon Institute used a different approach and said Fluoride is good for the teeth. These studies led to Fluoride being added to water supplys of many areas. People were told that Fluoride was healthy. The Aluminium industry saved a lot of money due to these studies.

Many people are now working out that Fluoride isn't so good afterall. One does have to admire the skill of The Mellon Institute, unfortunately they have caused a lot of deaths as Fluoride is a known Carcinogen

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84715562163381

[crockett]

Most "conspiracy" that turn out to be true involve coprate greed.. Like big tobacco claiming cigs were good for your health. Very unlikely that anyone in any govt could pull off some hidden agenda 9/11 or moon landing type stuff.

Just far too many people involved that wouldn't get any benefit out of it. I guess the closest you could get in this day and age is Bush/Chenny and Iraq when they claimed Iraq was still producing WMD even though they knew it wasn't true. However when it comes to wars most govts lie to their citizenship in order to get support, it's called propaganda and has just about always gone on.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

CODEX used to be a conspiracy as did the NWO

Whereas now the EU is bringing CODEX in and the world leaders openly speak about the NWO

Codex Alimentarius was never "hidden." it's existence was always in the open and not malevolent. it's a set of godamn food safety standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

the reason it is demonized by the conspiracy theorists is because it might shut down some of the crank heath food and nutrient scams which - "surprise" - provide most of the ads and fund the conspiracy and patriot websites and radio shows.

as they say "follow the money."

[helterskelter808]

The Holocaust was probably considered a crazy conspiracy theory to anyone who heard it at the time it was happening. Although many people still think it is.

[wehateporn]

Order some of these playing cards from 1995

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

The Holocaust was probably considered a crazy conspiracy theory to anyone who heard it at the time it was happening. Although many people still think it is.

That's a great example helterskelter808

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by porno jew

Codex Alimentarius was never "hidden." it's existence was always in the open and not malevolent. it's a set of godamn food safety standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius

the reason it is demonized by the conspiracy theorists is because it might shut down some of the crank heath food and nutrient scams which - "surprise" - provide most of the ads and fund the conspiracy and patriot websites and radio shows.

as they say "follow the money."

I'm sure this is the first time you've read about CODEX right now, there's a lot of history, it goes a long way back to the Club of Rome.

Read about it

[Brujah]

Nice!!

In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Nice!!

In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

Now you're sounding like someone who'd be interested in listening to Dr Peter David Beter's Audio Letters (1975-1982). All available for free download here

http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/

Perhaps you've already got them

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Order some of these playing cards from 1995

My problem with the Illuminati conspiracy is one of scope and effective control. Think of it this way - you and some buddies decide to organize a picnic. Sure enough, while many people are there on time and brought what they were supposed to bring, many didn't comply. If it's hard enough to organize a picnic that is supposed to take place at ONE TIME and at ONE PLACE, how hard would it be to organize the Illuminati's nefarious activities considering that they took place OVER HUNDREDS OF YEARS, involving HUNDREDS OF ORGANIZATIONS often composed of people who didn't know each other and involving HUNDREDS MORE FRONT ORGANIZATIONS and cover ideologies/religious movements/financial institutions. Plus, this would have taken place at MANY COUNTRIES.

Notice that the conspiracies that turned out to be true?

The spoke and hub of the planning/scheming tend to be VERY LIMITED.


Illuminati / antichrist control / feudal world government schemes/whatever label is current in whatever century, would have to be orchestrated almost by SUPERNATURAL forces for it to even have a chance of working because people, organizing from their own limited imaginations, limited geographic means, might be too limited to effect the grand aim of the Illuminati and other related conspiracies -- world government....

I'm not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE (no one should be so proud and presumptuous) but the likelihood has some serious obstacles to overcome

[Argos88]

chernobyl just to name one....

nagasaki and hiroshima just to name another...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Nice!!

In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

The very same Bush that had his company seized by the government during WW2 for aiding the enemy, Nazi Germany.

.

[gideongallery]

iran contra

[crockett]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

iran contra

That was just a so called secret war.. Not really a conspiracy rather than just govt doing what govts do. Kinda like how we have CIA doing what they do in many countries throughout the world. We have "advisers" for example in south America in places like Columbia doing anti drug stuff.

People know about it, but it's just not acknowledged publicly by the govt, much the same as Area 51 another hot bed for conspiracy theorist.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

I find it strange that people ridicule 9 11 truthers yet this is actually true.

because there is a HUGE difference between planning fake terrorist attacks 50 years ago, that were never carried out and actually crashing 4 passenger planes, destroying 2 huge buildings and a portion of the pentagon as well as killing thousands of people... don't ya think?

[will76]

Elvis is still alive.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm sure this is the first time you've read about CODEX right now, there's a lot of history, it goes a long way back to the Club of Rome.

Read about it

of course i know about it. you are unable to understand that i know pretty much every existing conspiracy under the sun inside and out but am still be critical about them. something your pea brain can't conceptualize i know, but it's called being critical and skeptical about all things, not just giving up one belief system for another and deluding myself i am somehow intellectually liberated.

[blackmonsters]

OJ would be set up and go to prison anyway.

[papill0n]

that sallyrand was a man

[DBS.US]

Smoking is heathy

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Nice!!

In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.

part-true, part-false and part-distortion. but did happen. bit not really "hidden."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley..._Business_Plot

hard to find a real source that bush was involved as well, although that he was has made it into internet mythology with the usual circle jerk of self-referential sources.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

Do you see anyone else in this thread posting nothing but a picture?

No, other adults here actually know how to "use their words."

You should try it some time you fucking tool...

And what do PROVEN CONSPIRACIES, actual real conspiracies, have to do with your tin-foil hat bullshit? God damn you are such a douche.

"SG"

[u-Bob]

Operation Gladio (Italian: Organizzazione Gladio) is the codename for a clandestine NATO "stay-behind" operation in Italy after World War II. Its purpose was to continue anti-communist actions in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion of Western Europe. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organizations, "Operation Gladio" is used as an informal name for all stay-behind organizations, sometimes called "Super NATO".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

After World War II, the UK and the US decided to create "stay-behind" paramilitary organizations, with the official aim of countering a possible Soviet invasion through sabotage and guerrilla warfare behind enemy lines. Arms caches were hidden, escape routes prepared, and loyal members recruited: i.e., mainly hardline anticommunists, including many ex-Nazis or former fascists....

However, Italian Gladio was more far reaching. "A briefing minute of June 1, 1959, reveals Gladio was built around 'internal subversion'. It was to play 'a determining role... not only on the general policy level of warfare, but also in the politics of emergency'. In the 1970s, with communist electoral support growing and other leftists looking menacing, the establishment turned to the 'Strategy of Tension'....

Operating in all of NATO and even in some neutral countries such as Spain before its 1982 admission to NATO, Gladio was first coordinated by the Clandestine Committee of the Western Union (CCWU), founded in 1948. After the creation of NATO in 1949, the CCWU was integrated into the "Clandestine Planning Committee" (CPC), founded in 1951 and overseen by the SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe)....

If Gladio was effectively "the best-kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II",[8] it must be underlined, however, that on several occasions, arms caches were discovered and stay-behind paramilitary organizations officially dissolved ? only to be created again. But it was not until the 1990s that the full international scope of the program was disclosed to public knowledge.....

On November 22, 1990, the European Parliament passed a resolution condemning Gladio, requesting full investigations ? which have yet to be done ? and total dismantlement of these paramilitary structures. In 2005,the first academic examination of Gladio was published by Swiss historian Daniele Ganser. Mr. Ganser, as of 2010, is a Senior Researcher at the Center for Security Studies at the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland. His book, NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe, is a documented study of how Gladio operated.

British journalist Philip Willan, who by 2010 writes for the UK Guardian and UK Observer, is the author of the book Puppetmasters: The Political Use of Terrorism in Italy, describing how US intelligence services relationship with a masonic lodge used to prop up Christian Democrat governments, undermining the growing political influence of the Italian Communist Party....

The 1990 European resolution condemned "the existence for 40 years of a clandestine parallel intelligence" as well as "armed operations organization in several Member States of the Community", which "escaped all democratic controls and has been run by the secret services of the states concerned in collaboration with NATO." Denouncing the "danger that such clandestine network may have interfered illegally in the internal political affairs of Member States or may still do so," especially before the fact that "in certain Member States military secret services (or uncontrolled branches thereof) were involved in serious cases of terrorism and crime," the Parliament demanded a "a full investigation into the nature, structure, aims and all other aspects of these clandestine organizations or any splinter groups, their use for illegal interference in the internal political affairs of the countries concerned, the problem of terrorism in Europe and the possible collusion of the secret services of Member States or third countries."....

Gladio has been accused of trying to influence policies through the means of "false flag" operations: a 2000 Italian Parliamentary Commission report from the Olive Tree left-wing coalition concluded that the strategy of tension used by Gladio had been supported by the United States to "stop the PCI (Italian Communist Party), and to a certain degree also the PSI (Italian Socialist Party), from reaching executive power in the country....

NATO's "stay-behind" organizations were never called upon to resist a Soviet invasion, but their structures continued to exist after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Internal subversion and "false flag" operations were explicitly considered by the CIA and stay-behind paramilitaries. According to a November 13, 1990 Reuters cable,[11] "André Moyen ? a former member of the Belgian military security service and of the [stay-behind] network ? said Gladio was not just anti-Communist but was for fighting subversion in general....

"There exist large differences among the European countries, and each case must be analyzed individually in further detail. As of now, the evidence suggests the secret armies in the seven countries, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Austria, and the Netherlands, focused exclusively on their stay-behind function and were not linked to terrorism. However, links to terrorism have been either confirmed or claimed in the nine countries, Italy, Ireland, Turkey, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, and Sweden, demanding further investigation."

The Italian NATO stay-behind organization, dubbed "Gladio", was set up under Minister of Defense (from 1953 to 1958) Paolo Taviani's (DC) supervision.[16] However, Gladio's existence came to public knowledge when Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed it to the Chamber of Deputies on October 24, 1990, although far-right terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra had already revealed its existence during his 1984 trial. According to media analyst Edward S. Herman, "both the President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, and Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti, had been involved in the Gladio organization and coverup...

...In 1990, following France's denial of any "stay-behind" French army, Giulio Andreotti publicly said the last Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC) meeting, at which the French branch of Gladio was present, had been on October 23 and 24, 1990, under the presidency of Belgian General Van Calster, director of the Belgian military secret service SGR. In November, Guy Coëme, the Minister of the Defense, acknowledged the existence of a Belgium "stay-behind" army, lifting concerns about a similar implication in terrorist acts as in Italy. The same year, the European Parliament sharply condemned NATO and the United States in a resolution for having manipulated European politics with the stay-behind armies....

A large arms cache was discovered in 1983 near the village Velp. In 1990 the government by means of then-prime-minister Ruud Lubbers was forced to confirm that the arms were related to planning for unorthodox warfare. He insisted that the Dutch organisation was, contrary to the operations in other European countries, totally independent from NATO command, and during wartime occupation would be commanded by the Dutch government in exile. The operating bureaus of the organisation would also move to safety in England or the USA at the first sign of trouble.
In his television show of 22 April 2007 Dutch crime journalist Peter R. De Vries revealed that weapons had been illegally supplied to Gladio well after the network was supposed to have been disbanded.
...

[u-Bob]

The Mafia (used to be a conspiracy theory in the US until the 1960s):

The American Mafia (or simply the Mafia in the United States), is an Italian-American criminal society. Much like the Sicilian Mafia, the American Mafia has no formal name and is a secret criminal society. Its members usually refer to it as Cosa Nostra or by its English translation "our thing" (or "this thing of ours"). The press has also coined the name "National Crime Syndicate" to refer to the entirety of U.S. organized crime, including the Mafia. The Mafia emerged in New York's Lower East Side and other areas of the East Coast of the United States during the late 19th century following waves of Italian immigration, especially from Sicily. It has its roots in the Sicilian Mafia, but is a separate organization in the United States. Neapolitan, Calabrian, and other Italian criminal groups merged with the Sicilians to create the modern pan-Italian Mafia in North America.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Order some of these playing cards from 1995

Funny video

[CurrentlySober]

That guy called currently Sober really DOES enjoy poo... ?

Who would have thought (or Tasted) it???

[seeandsee]

i like that site with insane stuff that happened

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by crockett

That was just a so called secret war.. Not really a conspiracy rather than just govt doing what govts do. Kinda like how we have CIA doing what they do in many countries throughout the world. We have "advisers" for example in south America in places like Columbia doing anti drug stuff.

People know about it, but it's just not acknowledged publicly by the govt, much the same as Area 51 another hot bed for conspiracy theorist.

actually i was talking about violating the long standing principle of "negotiating" for hostages

it was the first documented example of those back channel deals

before that point declaration of such hidden deals was defined as "conspiracy" theories

after that point the president himself "implicitly" acknowledge them

"i did not know about the diversion of funds"

[wehateporn]

President John F Kennedy had first hand experience of the engineering that goes on behind the scenes, here's his Secret Society speech

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

That guy called currently Sober really DOES enjoy poo... ?

Who would have thought (or Tasted) it???

is he really sober?

[CurrentlySober]

I wish.. *Sob*.. I wish...

[wehateporn]

George Bush Sr. slips up

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

President John F Kennedy had first hand experience of the engineering that goes on behind the scenes, here's his Secret Society speech

that guy must be crazy
what could he know, he probably learned it all from a book he found

he is just trying to stir the pot and cause trouble


jk..but all these stories will never change some peoples minds nor open their minds to being more analytical when digesting the daily news

[Paul Markham]

Fabian doesn't know how many toilets he has.

[Phoenix]

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Sally Rand is an old man posing as an young chick...

Turned out to be TRUE !

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

I find it strange that people ridicule 9 11 truthers yet this is actually true.

Give it time.. Many years from now we will see that some of the things that happened that day had been planned or allowed to happen.

How else do you get a country behind a war that no one wants.


You let Pearl Harbor be bombed... eeeeerrrrrrr I mean you let the WTC get hit by airplanes.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Yeah no shit..


Hubba Hubba.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Trying to link the veracity of random "conspiracy theories" with other unrelated, but proven, historical events.. doesn't make alot of sense.

[cherrylula]

how many programs shaving and banging cards... lol, true!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

I find it strange that people ridicule 9 11 truthers yet this is actually true.

Because this was a "plan" and no action was even taken on it. The United States loves making plans, and no one loves making plans more than the US Military. During the 1960s the CIA came up with many crazy ideas to try to make Castro look bad.

[porno jew]

he's talking about communism/soviet union during the cold war not the rockafeller / illuminati.

man some of your guys are really deluded it's amazing.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

that guy must be crazy
what could he know, he probably learned it all from a book he found

he is just trying to stir the pot and cause trouble


jk..but all these stories will never change some peoples minds nor open their minds to being more analytical when digesting the daily news