Family of 4 evicted and thrown into the street over $100

[SuckOnThis]

Arapahoe County sheriff's deputy Jim Osborn, right, arrives to evict John and Julie Holzhauer from their home on Sept. 15, 2011 in Centennial, Colo. Deputies served a court order to evict the family of five after they had earlier fallen behind in their rent payments. The owner sued for their eviction. John Holzhauer, a home building contractor, said he had lost up to 40% of his business due to the weak economy and continued housing crisis. He said he had paid the owner his outstanding rent balance the week before, except for a $100 dispute. An eviction team removed all their belongings from the house and changed the locks.



An eviction team removes the family's belongings from the home.



An eviction team member removes furniture from the house, including the family?s pet gerbil.



Julie embraces her children after they arrived home from school to find their belongings on the front lawn.






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[brassmonkey]

thats life. its business

[sandman!]

yea he paid the rent after he got the eviction notice.

it takes months to evict someone..........

im sure his landlord wants to deal with him again.

[VikingMan]

Not to worry because the next puppet President will swoop in and save people like this.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

thats life. its business

Tell that to their kids. Oh well fuck em, let em die, right?

[woj]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

thats life. its business

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[spunky99]

guess the landloard was just supposed to let them live for free and cover the bills himself?

[Lucy - CSC]

Originally Posted by *******

Not to worry because the next puppet President will swoop in and save people like this.

The next puppet president that again is working for the banks.

If they can afford to bail out the bankers why cant the bail out the average family on the street in America.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell that to their kids. Oh well fuck em, let em die, right?

being homeless doesnt kill you most people have kids are you suppose to let them all ride and slack on payments? what if the owner relies on the payments to pay the mortgage?

[Deej]

Originally Posted by sandman!

yea he paid the rent after he got the eviction notice.

it takes months to evict someone..........

im sure his landlord wants to deal with him again.

Ideally it takes months. In a lot of cases... It takes under a month...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Deej

Ideally it takes months. In a lot of cases... It takes under a month...

in new york i saw on peoples court it take 6 months to a year to evict

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

being homeless doesnt kill you most people have kids are you suppose to let them all ride and slack on payments? what if the owner relies on the payments to pay the mortgage?

Being $100 short on $1300 a month rent isnt exactly letting them ride, don't you think it cost more than $100 to evict and hire a team to clear out the house? The owner is an investment corporation. I've owned half a dozen rentals and thank god I never lost my compassion. And yes, people have died from being homeless.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Being $100 short on $1300 a month rent isnt exactly letting them ride, don't you think it cost more than $100 to evict and hire a team to clear out the house? The owner is an investment corporation. I've owned half a dozen rentals and thank god I never lost my compassion. And yes, people have died from being homeless.

You also have no clue what the back story is, since we only are getting the family's side. For all we know the landlord was compassionate and the guy did something really shitty to the landlord. Typical media knee jerk reaction...

[tiger]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell that to their kids. Oh well fuck em, let em die, right?

It sucks but try being a landlord for a while and you will see the other side of this. What would you do differently? Let them stay rent free cause they have kids? Landlords have kids to that doesn't have much to do with anything. Landlords are stuck paying the bills each month even if a tenant can't or won't pay. Then on top of that it can cost thousands to evict someone that can't pay their rent not to mention the time element.

It takes months to evict someone and from what it sounds like this person choose not to pay the $100 because of a dispute not that they didn't actually have the money to pay. Would have been smarter to pay the $100 then proceed with the dispute.

[DBS.US]

An eviction can save the owner from a foreclosure.

[Dvae]

John Holzhauer, a home building contractor, said he had lost up to 40% of his business due to the weak economy and continued housing crisis.

My first question is why is a building contractor renting?
I guess even when business was good it was bad?

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell that to their kids. Oh well fuck em, let em die, right?

yea tell the kids their daddy had to prove a point and lost.
Should've paid the $100 and then deal with the dispute.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

An eviction can save the owner from a foreclosure.

exactly get paying tenants

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

exactly get paying tenants

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

man theirs evictions everyday. $100 $1,000 its still owed just like if someone robs a place and get $20 or $2,000 its still a robbery pay up or leave he doesnt have to house them its not the ghetto.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

I see $1000s of dollars worth of shit they own. Not paying the $100 and letting your family get kicked to the curb is what is horrific about this story. Pay the fucking $100 and look for another place to live.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

It sounds like they made a terrible decision over $100.

Home or petty argument.

Seems pretty simple to me. I don't even have kids.

[Sly]

You are also forgetting that the owners of that property have their own bills to pay. It's not always rental agencies with big money behind them. It's often the average couple trying to put together retirement money. A rental agreement is pretty straightforward. If that couple does not receive their rent money, they are responsible for it... who knows what burdens they have?

[woj]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

There are no extenuating circumstances, who are you kidding, they jerked the landlord around and so they got kicked out, it's as simple as that... don't let the "over $100" media spin fool you...

and if you really owned any properties you would know damn well that when tenant falls behind on payment it is bad news... you get rid of them ASAP to minimize your losses...

[Jarmusch]

This is natural selection at work here.

[candyflip]

Had that happened in my city, they'd have had a fight on their hands.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nce-and-housin

[GregE]

Originally Posted by Sly

It sounds like they made a terrible decision over $100.

Home or petty argument.

Seems pretty simple to me. I don't even have kids.

Sounds to me like everybody involved made a terrible decision over $100.

As for the kids, I expect that they'll remember this day with razor sharp clarity well into ripe old age.

[L-Pink]

Two separate actions happen when filing for evection of a tenent.

1) the long drawn out process where the owner files for evection for breech of contract.

2) the amount of damages/rent the tenant owes and will probably be ordered to pay.

The tenant appears to have paid most of the damages/rent he was sued for. And the judge signed the order of evection. Paying what is owed is irrelevant once evection is ordered.

edit: Judges don't order the tenant to pay up or get evicted. Judges order the tenant evicted for breech of contract and then assesses monetary damages fo the landlord.
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[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

The next puppet president that again is working for the banks.

If they can afford to bail out the bankers why cant the bail out the average family on the street in America.

Bailing out bankers will end up netting an upwards of $10 billion in profit.

Well, at least according to NPR an
organization which tends to be as liberal as can be without venturing into the fringe.

http://m.npr.org/story/135002312?url=/2011/03/31/135002312/the-last-word-in-business

Oh, and if they didn't bail out the banks, its safe to say that there would be less wealth for the dems to redistribute.

[DBS.US]

Every day people short on rent sell things on Craigslist and ebay.

[kane]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I see $1000s of dollars worth of shit they own. Not paying the $100 and letting your family get kicked to the curb is what is horrific about this story. Pay the fucking $100 and look for another place to live.

Agreed. There are no details, but it sounds like he and the landlord were in a disagreement over that $100 owed and he chose not to pay it. He should have just paid it, and looked for a new place to live so they could move ASAP.

[u-Bob]

They voluntarily entered into an agreement and failed to fulfill their side of the deal. <nuf said>

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I see $1000s of dollars worth of shit they own. Not paying the $100 and letting your family get kicked to the curb is what is horrific about this story. Pay the fucking $100 and look for another place to live.

Yes, people forget judges don't sign orders to pay up or get out. Judges order evictions and judges award monetary damages. Two different problems for the tenant.

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[GregE]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Bailing out bankers will end up netting an upwards of $10 billion in profit.

I've read that too and I don't doubt the veracity of that argument.

But after bailing them out the government would have done well to jail as many of them as they could. Ditto for AIG, Countrywide and the rest of the shysters who brought the economy down in '08.

It's gonna cost a hell of a lot more than $10 billion in profit to make things right again

[GAMEFINEST]

pay the 100.00 and stfu

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell that to their kids. Oh well fuck em, let em die, right?

Their kids are going to die?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Their kids are going to die?

i really hope not.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by GregE

As for the kids, I expect that they'll remember this day with razor sharp clarity well into ripe old age.

Exactly. Think of the lesson it taught them... dont fuck around with the rent money.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by GregE

I've read that too and I don't doubt the veracity of that argument.

But after bailing them out the government would have done well to jail as many of them as they could. Ditto for AIG, Countrywide and the rest of the shysters who brought the economy down in '08.

It's gonna cost a hell of a lot more than $10 billion in profit to make things right again

Fair enough so long as they start with Barney Frank and all the Dems who watered down GSE reform.

[Loch]

So many people in this thread suck so bad i hope you fall on hard times at one point in your life. One thing is to side with the landlord another is to seem almost happy about the situation posted. Then again our business has always been know to host a fairly high amount of lowlives

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Loch

So many people in this thread suck so bad i hope you fall on hard times at one point in your life. One thing is to side with the landlord another is to seem almost happy about the situation posted. Then again our business has always been know to host a fairly high amount of lowlives

My comments are about the incorrect heading. The family wasn't evicted because they didn't pay the $100. in dispute.

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[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by spunky99

guess the landloard was just supposed to let them live for free and cover the bills himself?

You have an amazing avatar.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

An eviction can save the owner from a foreclosure.

$100 could have saved the tenant from being evicted.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

$100 could have saved the tenant from being evicted.

I read the story as the order for evection had been granted, THEN the tenant paid all but $100. In which case the debt was almost settled but order of evection will still be carried out.

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[Zorgman]

Look at all the shit hey have... there is $100 in there somewhere they could sell.
People always have options, they just don't think about it.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Exactly. Think of the lesson it taught them... dont fuck around with the rent money.

the answer is no i want 5 (your sig)

[justinsain]

I have a friend that bought a house a few years ago as an investment and rented it out to pay the mortgage. His first tenants were a couple with two kids. They paid for a few months and then stopped paying.

He relied on receiving the rent money to pay his mortgage and since they stopped paying he told them to leave and they left on their own accord. He then used a realtor to screen tenants with the hope of finding someone more reliable. They placed a single, 60 year old woman. She stopped paying rent after three months and refused to leave so he had to go through the eviction process all the while receiving nothing towards his mortgage.

Eventually he fell too far behind his mortgage due to non paying tenants and his $250,000 house was foreclosed on.

There really is two sides to this problem and both sides need to fulfill their obligations for the deal to be successful. Saying this is all just over $100 is misleading and a cheap way to spark emotions.

[woj]

Originally Posted by justinsain

I have a friend that bought a house a few years ago as an investment and rented it out to pay the mortgage. His first tenants were a couple with two kids. They paid for a few months and then stopped paying.

He relied on receiving the rent money to pay his mortgage and since they stopped paying he told them to leave and they left on their own accord. He then used a realtor to screen tenants with the hope of finding someone more reliable. They placed a single, 60 year old woman. She stopped paying rent after three months and refused to leave so he had to go through the eviction process all the while receiving nothing towards his mortgage.

Eventually he fell too far behind his mortgage due to non paying tenants and his $250,000 house was foreclosed on.

There really is two sides to this problem and both sides need to fulfill their obligations for the deal to be successful. Saying this is all just over $100 is misleading and a cheap way to spark emotions.

so your friend, through no fault of his own, lost his investment, probably $10k+ AND had his credit ruined for many years... while the tenants who really are the ones at fault here, when all is done, will just move to some new place like nothing happened... (and will probably get a month or 2 of free rent in the process too )

but of course the socialists on gfy view the landlord as a greedy asshole, while the tenants are victims in this situation...

[sandman!]

there is always a grey area who says these people are not douchbags tho ?

the article is nothing but bs spin to make headlines.

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

It must be wonderful living in your world where everything is in black & white with no grey area. It's mindsets like yours that sank the housing market to begin with. Go for the dollar, and be damned what the consequences might be for people. Who knows what extenuating circumstances might be involved with over that $100. We don't, but to put a family on the street over it is nothing less than horrific.

[sandman!]

are you an idiot ? the tenants could have owed 5k and paid most of it hoping not to get kicked out who the hell would want people like that for tenants ?

without knowing more then this bs article says only an idiot would take the tenants side.

Originally Posted by Loch

So many people in this thread suck so bad i hope you fall on hard times at one point in your life. One thing is to side with the landlord another is to seem almost happy about the situation posted. Then again our business has always been know to host a fairly high amount of lowlives