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Content theft and me...
Want to see how much of your stuff is stolen? goto google and type:
YOURSITENAME+wupload or YOURSITENAME+siterip or YOURSITENAME+filesonic You will love what you see lol. One could argue that these services might, in a round about way, advertise our material for us - I beg to differ :P The majority of these scam systems manage to get better SEO then your own efforts hahaha. These services ask me to prove my legitimacy and have the nerve to ask for a signed document lol. So I asked them to send me any profits realized as they make members pay for MY downloads. I even sent them my paypal account? Maybe they think the word "siterip" is a legal work for being ok to steal? *rant down* btw, no payment to paypal yet lol.
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lol.. that is only 1% of the real picture..
check forums like intporn.com pornbb.org, extreme-board.com.. just to name a few. those forums refresh every second.. 10 new posts are made per second.. incredible.. |
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Forums is where it at. Google can be removed, that is the easy part. The forum posters don't stop, they need the cash.
The new forums are invite only and they are hard to crack.
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lol yea i've actually done this before and couldn't believe how many results there were listed in Google!
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lol those forums like intporn, planetsuzy, extreme, pornbb...
man.. you refresh every second and you see another NEW POST!!! its incredible. you can see 50,000 active forum users at all times.. 24/7.. WTF!!! and then soem naive suckers blame ccbill. lol... TERAS of content SITE RIPS are being posted every minute.. incredible. obviously filesonic is doing a killing, millions per day. |
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I can let a few files here and there go to people who are broke and maybe love a specific model - but ripping our entire network FILE by FILE, adding previews then uploading is crazy. I know this is old news.. but how many people on here are even serving DMCA notices? You might wonder why your sales are nill - if its all free from piracy then that certainly kills the bottom line. What is crazy is I email these sites all the time about the same material - so i'm sure it just gets refreshed, renamed and re-uploaded - maybe 100x more lol. Thanks! haha
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we're getting sick of sending DMCAs, it's a daily battle!
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It is a daily battle for us as well!
![]() Just saw the post on the top 50 wealthiest under the age of 30. The next one in line to become wealthy will be the individual that comes up with a solution to stop piracy! |
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Just a quick question...I'm sure its been tried before, but what are the possible results with flooding torrent and upload sites with your videos that contain, for example 30 minutes of blank screen? It's probably a lot of work, but would it deter download attempts on your material when the person has a high probability of just getting nothing?
I'm going to be publishing a digital comic sometime in the future, and the idea of having it ripped and uploaded everywhere for free is a little disconcerting.
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but YOU and others are guilty for it... I know some webmasters who used to be affiliates in several program, submitted galleries on a daily basis.. and then it all started going down.. shitty ratios.. shaving... cross sales.. scrubing... the fucking sponsors closed down, steal their money, etc.. then you see those fucking sponsors opening with a new face and name. but you know what? These gallery submitters now work for those file sharing sites and they make 5-10K PER MONTH submitting to these forums, lol. 10 to 50 bucks for every 1000 download, depending on the file sharing site.. and its all automated.. they use scripts of course. I dont blame them.. I understand them.. if the fucking greedy sponsor did that to them, they are guilty. so fuck them. period. yeah. |
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how would you recognize my content from a thumbnail with a generic description? |
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but even those are useless, because in the forums, they change the name with symbols, for example they use the 0 instead of the O... or the $ instead of the S to name files, titles, threads, etc. The virus is already spread and there is nothing that can stop it. We webmasters and sponsor owners are guilty for this.. We cant blame anyone else, but ourselves. |
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I already know why my Kinky Dollars conversions suck...their shit is all over torrents, tubes, forums, you name it. I used to convert with them 1:500, now it's 1:3,000+
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People posting material as a hobby hiding behind a proxy or something is one thing. If sites are paying people to post infringed material there has to be some kind of easy lawsuit that would cripple them? You wouldn't even have to track down the poster or any of that, just provide proof that X person/company paid to have infringed material distributed..?
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Lovely world of theft
![]() I love it when an affiliate signs up and he has a blogger with links to full length sets. Or even better other webmaster forums like jus bl0w m3 allow to happen all day long. Yummy ![]() Brand new ones too. WTF
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You've got mail. I think all producers should start using services like yours and take other measurements. We should not forget that most content thefts are Russian and most Russians are alcoholics suffering from brain damage and it's really not that hard to beat a drunk Russian with brain damage. (I hope you aren't Russian, Pitbull... if you are... my apologies for the above comments - I'm only joking of course, ha ha ha)
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not much will change until the laws change. it would be more productive trying to change the laws then to play the Whac-A-Mole game of sending out DMCA's.
the videos are uploaded by the owners so once they get the DMCA, they just "de-activate" it, only to re-activate the same video a few weeks later with a new title and description. fun huh? they steal our content, money and time! |
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Some things you can and should do:
1) Stop the sharing of passwords completely using proper scripts. Most content theft is done through shared passwords, because content thieves make it a sport not to pay for anything. They will hardly ever pull their credit cards so they mainly use shared passwords. We're developing and already using scripts that make sharing of passwords by two or more people impossible. There are also scripts like Pennywize and StrongBox, I didn't like StrongBox, we were able to download with two people using one password at the same time and trashed StrongBox and started to develop our own scripts. 2) Embed user-ID in downloaded file and/or use watermarking technology to put user ID inside video-footage. If you find your footage on Rapidshare you download it, then you know which of your members is uploading your content, and you ban him to avoid further damage. We already developed a script to embed user ID in video file and we're working on the watermarking now. 3) Use a service like removeyourcontent.com or pitbull to have your content removed from Rapidshare, torrents etc 4) You can block access to your sites from countries like Russia and Ukraine and proxy servers completely. I'm not doing this because I get a few Russian paying members from time to time and haven't caught them uploading my content yet. 5) Disable usage of proxy servers in your member section. We developed scripts for that. If all producers would start using these methods today, things would get very difficult for the Rapidshare, PayPal and torrent mafia. Anyone interested in using our scripts mail to [email protected] |
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With tubes we don't rely on name searches (we do perform it as part of the process) but as you say more generic descriptions are used more frequently. So we search the whole tube for relative terms, then search it again manually page by page. Any infringers will get visited repeatedly and if information allows, we'll build a dossier. and try to find out more about them (this is more of a side project and to satisfy our sleuthing tendencies) Once its done, a re-up or new infringement wont show up in the old pages again and you can search via "latest".
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Well as you can see, broken webmasters at least have a job they can take..
Work as DMCA senders. lol... I would never trust one of those "services" anyway. It can be a KNIFE with double BLADE.. Better be careful, guys. |
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<><><> Very interested in the ability to embed a userid or serial number of sorts into video files (and pictures) <><><>
I'm not really sure how the video embedding would work, unless it's a process like this: User requests a video download -- >> 5-10 minutes pass as the server re-encodes the HD video with user's ID embedded >> User is then served the download Is that how you're doing it? |
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It would be more productive to do ANYTHING else with your money imho. It's impossible to stop piracy. We all know that. So spend the money on marketing, on UI, on branding, on making your site better for your customers, on customer service, on anything really... |
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I can tell you from the script we made and the admin form it shows us that 95% of your members download from one location through one connection only. Our script also looks at some other things like what browser and operating system is being used so if they log in from a second connection you will see a new record that shows you the ip address, hosting provider, country, os, browser. The second connection is blocked by default and you can unblock it manually but we are now adding member trust levels, like for example download from two locations but within same country only. This is what about 4% of your members do, downloading from home and from work, and then you have the 1% who travel internationally and download from laptop from various countries. With all the above, additional connections are being blocked by default, the first connection will remain open, but we added a function then when there is a download through a proxy server of from problematic countries (Russia and other countries that you can specify yourself) the account is blocked completely so the first used connection is being blocked as well. Then you can first review the account and decide whether you want to activate it again. We made all this part of our terms of service. |
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Those guys uploading to filesonic and posting on those dozens forums are probably smarter than you, or the broken webmaster who is now stealing people's money to send DMCA's... if you really think they are not paying a VPS to do SSH TUNEL via proxy to upload their stuff.. or use one of the many free scripts to upload the huge files SERVER -> FILESONIC in minutes.. man.. if you really can't notice that, then you are living in a box and you need to be UPDATED... seriously. |
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You have the hobbyists who like to trade porn, they are everywhere, but the ones who do it professionally and large scale are mainly Russians. I don't think you can make much money with piracy because you're dealing with an audience that doesn't want to pay for anything; that's why they come to this piracy boards in the first place, looking for free stuff. So let's say they make $500 a month with this, if you live in Russia that's a decent income.
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You're talking out of your ass buddy. I keep hearing those urban legends about them ultra smart pirates who can bypass anything to steal your content, who have incredibly eleborate tools to cloack their posts and hide their identities and who basically make piracy "unstoppable". And without a single exception those legends come from people who haven't seen the real thing. While the truth is that there's nothing unstoppable about piracy, you just need time and energy to persue them relentlessly, and some good tools and services to assist you in that.
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Don't use their services then
![]() (and they charge much less than $500/month, Mr Paranoid Cheap Skater - if you can't afford paying $250/month for an essential service like this that means that your business isn't working, and that you're broke, time to quit the biz and start working in your dad's gay whore house) |
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Well that is actually the reason why forum posters CAN be stopped. If you remove all their new uploads, they usually give up after a week or two, and either switch to posting some other stuff or quit posting altogether. They do not have any fat to sustain them through the hard times, and usually quicky drop anything that doesnt bring in the immediate cash return.
Stalking posters is of course a trick of itself, but it's doable. Old school posters who mostly worked for a few "thank you"s and a free premium rapidshare account were not that easily thwarted, because they were not financially interested (or at least that was not a priority), they also had an ideology to justify what they're doing (sharing is caring, however twisted alot of them truly believed in that sharing nonsense) and community support. And they were usually a niche connoisseurs who knew where to find good stuff and knew it's not easily replacable with something else, that's why they didnt switch quickly to some other stuff after DMCA bombing. They'd start dodging, using linksave, rename files, move to other board(s) (alone with the hordes of their followers). It was also not uncommon for them to actually buy access to paysites that they wanted to "share" with their buddies to get appreciation. It is all gone with the new generation of serial cash posters. Money is the only ideology that they have now, and most of them is actually too dumb to have any other. That makes them easier and more vulnerable targets - when they see some type of content is being systematically taken down, they skip on it and move on.
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Despite the obvious increase in the amount of posts (thanks to auto-posters), we find it easier to control board piracy now then it was back in the rapidshare heyday. Not much of the new stuff gets posted, and it is much easier to "convince" posters nowadays to switch to posting something else with a few DMCAs. They're not emotionally attached to your stuff or niche as it was often the case back in the "sharing" days, it is all about money and only about money for them now. If they're loosing links because of DMCAs, they'd simply download some other "megapack" from a torrent, post it and see if it lives. If yes, they'd post and repost the hell out of it. If not, back to step one.
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I already sent you an email last night - waiting on a response about this 'script' .
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Every now and then I pop over to wjunction.com and look at all the threads of people's earnings ripping you guys off.
All these lockers know that people post warez, it's criminal that they get away with it.
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see https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=990150 within that thread are examples of how to embed whatever info you require within the video and images. In your face, or transparently.
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I emailed or ICQ'd you about that over a month ago and you didn't get back to me. If you have a viable solution ready to go let's talk about it
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I have scripts that can do this and a package for setting up the protected streams. Often thou is the prob of integrating into the client CMS ewhich is often encoded script I'm not on icq cos the fucker won't let me log in anymore
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