Feds Seize $50 Million in Megaupload Assets, Lodge New Charges

[grumpy]

The government, meanwhile, also said Friday that, despite claims of having 180 million registered users, the site had 66.6 million. The authorities said that 5.86 million of these registered users uploaded files, ?demonstrating that more than 90 percent of their registered users only used the defendant?s system to download.?

more here
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ng-indictment/

[Dirty Dane]

They're fucked. Uploaders are also under investigation.

[lucas131]

oh this is bringing back memories ...

[DWB]

Originally Posted by grumpy

more here
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ng-indictment/

So it was only the 10% who were crying about their important files being lost on the site.

At least we know 10% of them are total morons.

I hope the drop the hammer on everyone involved and all the registered downloaders too.

[adendreams]

For those that haven't see this quite astonishing video.

Odd that the voice of Macy Grey seems to be featured but no face seen.

These celebs don't do these endorsements cheap, this is a multi-million dollar video for sure....

[Django]

Originally Posted by adendreams

[Fletch XXX]

only a pig,... its common sense there will be more downloaders than uploaders, this is news to these swine?

LOLOLOL

[BareBacked]

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

[PornoMonster]

If the CEO is in the Car, Yes!

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

did you ever read how the site worked? you could watch a movie for 72 minutes, then you had to pay to see the rest.

you understand now?

[BareBacked]

LOL i guess this makes things a little different


The superseding indictment in the Eastern District of Virginia also claims that Megaupload paid one of its registered users $3,400 between 2008 and 2009 for uploading 16,960 files that generated 34 million views. The files included motion pictures Ocean’s Thirteen, Ratatouille and Evan Almighty, the government said.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

did you ever read how the site worked? you could watch a movie for 72 minutes, then you had to pay to see the rest.

you understand now?

That does not really make any difference to my original point
I can test drive a corvette before I pay for it too LOL

[Failed]

You would think that a guy with this much money and resources could of felt the heat coming, sold out and retired to a nice life of luxury.

[seeandsee]

they will be kicked mega to the jail

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

That does not really make any difference to my original point
I can test drive a corvette before I pay for it too LOL

actually in this case it would be a stolen Corvette you buy - fully knowing that it is stolen

[porno jew]

emails show they were fully aware mu was used for piracy. this among other things, is the difference.

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

[Hentaikid]

When sites like ninjavideo or seriesyonkis are sending you millions of uniques a day you can't pretend you don't know where or what they're coming for

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

They're fucked. Uploaders are also under investigation.

the people that used their real names

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

actually in this case it would be a stolen Corvette you buy - fully knowing that it is stolen

You are way off here lol

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by porno jew

emails show they were fully aware mu was used for piracy. this among other things, is the difference.

Ya it seems like that is the case and what did them in.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

They had their emails that confirmed they knew it was being used for piracy. That's a slam dunk.

Your analogy doesn't apply to this.

Originally Posted by Failed

You would think that a guy with this much money and resources could of felt the heat coming, sold out and retired to a nice life of luxury.

That's the thing with many who are super rich, many are too arrogant for their own good often thinking they are above the law. Some get away with shit, some have the hammer dropped on them. Everyone who does something illegal thinks they will get away with it. Prisons around the world are full of people who all thought the same thing.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

You are way off here lol

why's that?

people upload copyrighted content, others watch it - MU in the middle charges for it and keeps the money for themselves. you dont see a problem with this business model?

[webair]

Still, anyone who used Megaupload as a way to share and store legitimate files is now likely never going to be able to get them back.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

That does not really make any difference to my original point
I can test drive a corvette before I pay for it too LOL

You are missing one Important thing. You example would hold true if the Corvette was Stolen, just like the Movies.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

why's that?

people upload copyrighted content, others watch it - MU in the middle charges for it and keeps the money for themselves. you dont see a problem with this business model?

Ofcourse I personally have a problem with it..

I was asking what the law was. It appears that there was proof that they were aware of it and were actually paying for it.


I a not a lawyer or an expert on the matters. I am curious .


What you just said could be said for any number of webhosts or ISP's

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by webair

Still, anyone who used Megaupload as a way to share and store legitimate files is now likely never going to be able to get them back.

yeah real justice

[JFK]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the people that used their real names

why, what did you use ?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

What you just said could be said for any number of webhosts or ISP's

me thinks you still throw things in the same pot that dont belong there

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by JFK

why, what did you use ?

downloaded some bible scriptures

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by adendreams

For those that haven't see this quite astonishing video.

Odd that the voice of Macy Grey seems to be featured but no face seen.

These celebs don't do these endorsements cheap, this is a multi-million dollar video for sure....

Because none of these people can afford a site of their own to send files.

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

They do if he knows he's providing the car for a criminal offense. Kim Dotcom knew his service was being used habitually by people breaking the law, he encouraged them by turning a blind eye and paying them.

If a Corvette is being used all the time by criminals, the CEO knows this and ignores it and pays them to commit criminal acts. The CEO is facing some serious problems. If Kim can establish he thought he was running a 100% legit company then he like the CEO of GM, have a case.

It's not only emails the Feds have, they have payment and bank details. ISPs, the content uploaded, downloaded, the money sent, received, and a ton of other stuff.

Start sending the letters and demanding the payments is my advice.

[alextokyo]

Originally Posted by adendreams

Macy Grey

Rhethurdid Humpback Female Negro of Notre Dame.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by adendreams

For those that haven't see this quite astonishing video.

Odd that the voice of Macy Grey seems to be featured but no face seen.

These celebs don't do these endorsements cheap, this is a multi-million dollar video for sure....

macy grey was the shit in training day smoke dem foolz

[porno jew]

is it just me or have markham's posts make even less sense than before the last few weeks? like you read the post he replying to and there is no connection?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Because none of these people can afford a site of their own to send files.



They do if he knows he's providing the car for a criminal offense. Kim Dotcom knew his service was being used habitually by people breaking the law, he encouraged them by turning a blind eye and paying them.

If a Corvette is being used all the time by criminals, the CEO knows this and ignores it and pays them to commit criminal acts. The CEO is facing some serious problems. If Kim can establish he thought he was running a 100% legit company then he like the CEO of GM, have a case.

It's not only emails the Feds have, they have payment and bank details. ISPs, the content uploaded, downloaded, the money sent, received, and a ton of other stuff.

Start sending the letters and demanding the payments is my advice.

[NetHorse]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

I really do not understand this.

The provided a service.
The users abused the service.


Do you arrest the CEO of GM if you catch some douche bag speeding in a corvette ?

That is such a moronic analogy, (no offense).

First and foremost, you need to actually read why they were being investigated in the first place. It goes a little further than users abusing their service underneath their noses.

Second of all, give me a break! It serves them right. They offered a service that encouraged and profited $100s of millions from stolen material. I hope every filesharing service shares the same fate. 99.999% of everything shared was illegally being distributed, only a jackass would assume they didn't know that.

Has anyone even bothered to see how youtube has changed after the Viacom lawsuit? They've set a precedent on how to legitimately run a service that is routinely abused beyond their control.

Youtube launched their partner program, but the underlying effect was denouncing the encouragement of uploading copyrighted material. The ONLY videos that display ads are original videos uploaded by those enrolled in google's/youtube's partner program or videos uploaded by youtube themselves.

If you attempt to profit off copyrighted works in their partner program; they investigate, permanently ban and delete your youtube and adsense account at the drop of a hat. Even outside of the partner program; upload a copyrighted video on youtube, there will be no ads, google will not profit off it and if you get caught they will delete your account or even hold you responsible for damages.

Now, compare that to what fucking megaupload and every other bullshit filesharing service does/did. They blatantly profit off and even encourage illegal filesharing; to put it any other way is an insult to everyone's fucking intelligence.

It's about fucking time, now take down the rest of the scumbags. These aren't little petty thieves, they're making 2-3-400,000+ million dollars and laughing at getting away with it under 'technicalities' in countries outside the U.S.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

That is such a moronic analogy, (no offense).

First and foremost, you need to actually read why they were being investigated in the first place. It goes a little further than users abusing their service underneath their noses.

Second of all, give me a break! It serves them right. They offered a service that encouraged and profited $100s of millions from stolen material. I hope every filesharing service shares the same fate. 99.999% of everything shared was illegally being distributed, only a jackass would assume they didn't know that.

Has anyone even bothered to see how youtube has changed after the Viacom lawsuit? They've set a precedent on how to legitimately run a service that is routinely abused beyond their control.

Youtube launched their partner program, but the underlying effect was denouncing the encouragement of uploading copyrighted material. The ONLY videos that display ads are original videos uploaded by those enrolled in google's/youtube's partner program or videos uploaded by youtube themselves.

If you attempt to profit off copyrighted works in their partner program; they investigate, permanently ban and delete your youtube and adsense account at the drop of a hat. Even outside of the partner program; upload a copyrighted video on youtube, there will be no ads, google will not profit off it and if you get caught they will delete your account or even hold you responsible for damages.

Now, compare that to what fucking megaupload and every other bullshit filesharing service does/did. They blatantly profit off and even encourage illegal filesharing; to put it any other way is an insult to everyone's fucking intelligence.

It's about fucking time, now take down the rest of the scumbags. These aren't little petty thieves, they're making 2-3-400,000+ million dollars and laughing at getting away with it under 'technicalities' in countries outside the U.S.

Amen ........ Well stated.


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[garce]

Yup, only illegal uploaders use that site. I've been working on original Oblivion mods for the last five years and using Megaupload to share them.

So much for that hobby... Oh, well...

It'd be nice to have a file-sharing service that allowed people to share their original works and personal files, but that will never happen.

The internet is as good as dead when it comes to being a forum for sharing ideas. The only places left where "The Internet" symbolizes freedom are in countries populated by people who make $2 a month and fuck goats for entertainment.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by DWB

They had their emails that confirmed they knew it was being used for piracy. That's a slam dunk.

Your analogy doesn't apply to this.

you said the same thing about youtube when paul markham posted his smoking gun thread about youtube

And then we found out that what was presented was 1/2 of a conversation, where the partners pointed out the potential authorized /fair use authorized actions that would make it not infringing.

And that the only way they could be sure was to simply follow the DMCA takedown process.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by garce

Yup, only illegal uploaders use that site. I've been working on original Oblivion mods for the last five years and using Megaupload to share them.

So much for that hobby... Oh, well...

It'd be nice to have a file-sharing service that allowed people to share their original works and personal files, but that will never happen.

The internet is as good as dead when it comes to being a forum for sharing ideas. The only places left where "The Internet" symbolizes freedom are in countries populated by people who make $2 a month and fuck goats for entertainment.

You mean a legal file sharing service isn't possible?

Can you explain further please.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

That does not really make any difference to my original point
I can test drive a corvette before I pay for it too LOL

And you'd do this in a stolen corvette too? Get real man!!! It's one thing playing Devil's Advocate, it's an entirely different thing being deliberately obtuse.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

actually in this case it would be a stolen Corvette you buy - fully knowing that it is stolen

didn't see your reply before posting :D

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Ofcourse I personally have a problem with it..

I was asking what the law was. It appears that there was proof that they were aware of it and were actually paying for it.


I a not a lawyer or an expert on the matters. I am curious .


What you just said could be said for any number of webhosts or ISP's

Indeed - and the CEO's of the companies that provided hosting for MU knew exactly what was going on. MU was probably their biggest single customer, someone should have done some due diligence. I would be very worried if I were in their shoes.

Its very easy to ignore what is going on in your data centre when someone is paying you a million dollars a month. I would reccomend that hosting companies take a long look at what the are involved with.

This is also why lots of industry peeps wanted to block SOPA - the internet industry (hosting, bandwidth, servers, etc) is a whole lot less lucrative if we start enforcing copyright law on the internet.

[VGeorgie]

Originally Posted by garce

It'd be nice to have a file-sharing service that allowed people to share their original works and personal files, but that will never happen.

GitHub, SourceForge, Google Docs, and a few others like them are the ones I use for sharing open source files. I can't imagine using a host that pays uploaders for porn and pirated movies for files that are important to me.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by VGeorgie

GitHub, SourceForge, Google Docs, and a few others like them are the ones I use for sharing open source files. I can't imagine using a host that pays uploaders for porn and pirated movies for files that are important to me.

you can't, but a large part of corporate traffic was actually megaupload.

[Klen]

Megaupload was first for keyword "file upload"which is probably why they were number one.

[DWB]

Mega Mega Uploooooooooooooooaaaaad!