Herman Cain is Just Another Koch-Sucker

[BFT3K]

Why Herman Cain Is The Koch Brothers? Favorite Presidential Candidate



Former pizza executive Herman Cain?s rise to the top of the Republican presidential pack will undoubtedly put smiles on the faces of two brothers: Charles and David Koch.

Story continues here...

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...koch-brothers/

[12clicks]

actually, it will put smiles on the faces of all successful people.
The leeches will certainly have a problem with him

[blackmonsters]

That dude made pizza.

That qualifies him to be president?

[Vendzilla]

https://www.hermancain.com/999plan At least he has a plan.

[devilspost]

[raymor]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

That dude made pizza.

That qualifies him to be president?

While GW Bush was ruining sports teams and oil companies and Barak Obama was organizing Chicago vote fraud, Herman Cain was successfully leading Burger King and Godfather's Pizza, actually leading people in his part of growing the economy.
That doesn't make him the MOST qualified candidate ever, but actual success in leadership makes him more qualified than the last two or three presidents.

More important to me, he gives straightforward answers to straightforward questions and presents solutions. That, to me, makes him more appealing than the more experoenced Perry, who never gives a straight answer or Barak "it's all somebody else's fault" Obama. I'm not in love with any of the candidates, but finally having a candidate who has actually accomplished SOMETHING, who has shown some kind of LEADERSHIP, is a lot more appealing to me than four more years of fail.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

That dude made pizza.

That qualifies him to be president?

what did obama make?


Bachelor?s
degree in Mathematics.
Master?s degree
in Computer Science.
Mathematician
for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket
scientist).
Computer
systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
VP of Corporate
Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the
computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major
corporation).
All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!

Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury?s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company?s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company?s best performers.

Godfather?s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather?s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.

In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather?s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.

Cain was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.

Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!

Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.

Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve Bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.

After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!

Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You?re Stupid.

Radio Host. Around 2007?after a remarkable 40 year career?he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).

He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid).

[TheDoc]

He's a corporatist just like Obama...

Ever looked up how he made those companies profitable? Simple... he fired people, closed up places, making it instantly profit more, stock values go up, and more investments come in... now that some skills. lol

[ilnjscb]

Bunch of racists - how dare you criticize a 100% black man?

[ReGGs]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

https://www.hermancain.com/999plan At least he has a plan.

lol too bad that plan according to economists would "Cause Largest Deficits Since WWII, While Increasing Taxes For Most Americans" and "?would be the biggest tax shift from the wealthy to the middle-class in the history of taxation, ever, anywhere, and it would bankrupt the country.?



http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ysis-deficits/

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

lol too bad that plan according to economists would "Cause Largest Deficits Since WWII, While Increasing Taxes For Most Americans" and "?would be the biggest tax shift from the wealthy to the middle-class in the history of taxation, ever, anywhere, and it would bankrupt the country.?



http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ysis-deficits/

considering the bottom 50% pay nothing, a little tax burden shift seems appropriate.

are they the same "economists" who said obama's plans would create jobs and not balloon the deficit?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

lol too bad that plan according to economists would "Cause Largest Deficits Since WWII, While Increasing Taxes For Most Americans" and "?would be the biggest tax shift from the wealthy to the middle-class in the history of taxation, ever, anywhere, and it would bankrupt the country.?



http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ysis-deficits/

Obama's Economists? keep

Again, at least he has a plan, Obama is going to do another stimulus, remember how many Japan did? Did it help? NO!!

[DaddyHalbucks]

Herman Cain is a breath of fresh air.

[ReGGs]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

considering the bottom 50% pay nothing, a little tax burden shift seems appropriate.

You repeat this over and over again yet it doesn't make it any more true. Just more faux news spin. You are talking about federal taxes. And if you want someone to blame for that blame Nixon the EITC.

"47 percent of households are owed more in federal help than they pay in federal income tax. But it's not because they don't owe federal income tax. It's because they're owed other money that runs through the tax code. Example: Earned Income Tax Credit....The result isn't that you don't owe anything in federal income taxes, but that your income tax liability is wiped out by your EITC check. The critics of the tax code don't seem(want) to know this"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...y_no_taxe.html

Besides you could take ALL the poors money they made in a year and you would only have 1 trillion. That's about 9 percent of the GDP. Tax the poor 100% and you still won't fill the gap. On top of that Cains plan in 2007 "would have yielded just under $1.3 trillion in total federal tax revenue -- 9.2 percent of the GDP -- compared to 18.5 percent of GDP in tax revenue that was actually collected that year."

So basically the 999 plan should be called "Tax the Poor More!"

[Minte]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

He's a corporatist just like Obama...

Ever looked up how he made those companies profitable? Simple... he fired people, closed up places, making it instantly profit more, stock values go up, and more investments come in... now that some skills. lol

So Obama ran a daycare center. And that worldly experience continues to be painfully obvious.

[Brujah]

Doesn't matter. Cain will fall out and endorse Romney.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Minte

So Obama ran a daycare center. And that worldly experience continues to be painfully obvious.

It's not like running America is actually anything like running a business.

[nextri]

The Koch Brothers’ investment in Herman Cain appears to already be paying dividends in advancing their corporatist agenda. Cain has centered his presidential bid around the “999″ economic plan, an enormous corporate giveaway that would reduce companies’ income tax rate from 35 percent to 9 percent. Not only would Koch Industries reap massive benefits, but the Koch Brothers themselves — already tied for the fourth richest people in America — would personally see their tax rates fall from approximately 28 percent to around 11 percent.

interesting..

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

You repeat this over and over again yet it doesn't make it any more true. Just more faux news spin. You are talking about federal taxes. And if you want someone to blame for that blame Nixon the EITC.

"47 percent of households are owed more in federal help than they pay in federal income tax. But it's not because they don't owe federal income tax. It's because they're owed other money that runs through the tax code. Example: Earned Income Tax Credit....The result isn't that you don't owe anything in federal income taxes, but that your income tax liability is wiped out by your EITC check. The critics of the tax code don't seem(want) to know this"

hahahaha, yes the government hands out more money to them than their tax liability.
Thats called "paying no income tax" in intelligent circles.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

You repeat this over and over again yet it doesn't make it any more true. Just more faux news spin. You are talking about federal taxes. And if you want someone to blame for that blame Nixon the EITC.

"47 percent of households are owed more in federal help than they pay in federal income tax. But it's not because they don't owe federal income tax. It's because they're owed other money that runs through the tax code. Example: Earned Income Tax Credit....The result isn't that you don't owe anything in federal income taxes, but that your income tax liability is wiped out by your EITC check. The critics of the tax code don't seem(want) to know this"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...y_no_taxe.html

Besides you could take ALL the poors money they made in a year and you would only have 1 trillion. That's about 9 percent of the GDP. Tax the poor 100% and you still won't fill the gap. On top of that Cains plan in 2007 "would have yielded just under $1.3 trillion in total federal tax revenue -- 9.2 percent of the GDP -- compared to 18.5 percent of GDP in tax revenue that was actually collected that year."

So basically the 999 plan should be called "Tax the Poor More!"

I remember a women, made very little money, just above minimum wage, had a few kids and the government gave her over $7k everyyear for her taxes, is that really right? All because of the EIC

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I remember a women, made very little money, just above minimum wage, had a few kids and the government gave her over $7k everyyear for her taxes, is that really right? All because of the EIC

Is the percentage of overall taxes paid vs. income earned higher? It's all how you word it...

That percentage is so extreme, you can take "all" the income the lower income people have and it wouldn't change anything.... they aren't the ones with the money, taxing them more is pointless, it solves zero problems.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by raymor

While GW Bush was ruining sports teams and oil companies and Barak Obama was organizing Chicago vote fraud, Herman Cain was successfully leading Burger King and Godfather's Pizza, actually leading people in his part of growing the economy.
That doesn't make him the MOST qualified candidate ever, but actual success in leadership makes him more qualified than the last two or three presidents.

More important to me, he gives straightforward answers to straightforward questions and presents solutions. That, to me, makes him more appealing than the more experoenced Perry, who never gives a straight answer or Barak "it's all somebody else's fault" Obama. I'm not in love with any of the candidates, but finally having a candidate who has actually accomplished SOMETHING, who has shown some kind of LEADERSHIP, is a lot more appealing to me than four more years of fail.

STFU. That motherfucker sold pizza.

That does not make him smart in any way.

Who da fuck can't sell pizza and hamburgers to you fat motherfuckers?

[raymor]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

STFU. That motherfucker sold pizza.

That does not make him smart in any way.

Who da fuck can't sell pizza and hamburgers to you fat motherfuckers?

Who can't, you ask? Bush, Obama, and Clinton are three people who can't run a successful organization of any kind.

I wish I could save and run a company selling a few hundred million dollars of pizza.

[BFT3K]

This article is very funny...

http://techland.time.com/2011/10/13/...itys-999-plan/

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

He's a corporatist just like Obama...

Ever looked up how he made those companies profitable? Simple... he fired people, closed up places, making it instantly profit more, stock values go up, and more investments come in... now that some skills. lol

They are all the same at this point. Just pick the lesser of the evils.

[CynBabes]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

what did obama make?


He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid).

Obama was President of the United States of America before he turned 50. Cain has run for office twice before and failed to even get a nomination let alone an office.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by raymor

While GW Bush was ruining sports teams and oil companies and Barak Obama was organizing Chicago vote fraud, Herman Cain was successfully leading Burger King and Godfather's Pizza, actually leading people in his part of growing the economy.
That doesn't make him the MOST qualified candidate ever, but actual success in leadership makes him more qualified than the last two or three presidents.

oh good lord satan another fucking businessman, what this country needs is a real leader like our founding fathers, not these religious fucking capitalists who put god and money before freedom.

FUCK him and all those like him, he cares only about money and not one shit about the people of this nation.

[dodger21]

Yes we cain!! Yes we cain!!!!

[Viewfinder]

Yummy...I hear it's only $9.99.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's not like running America is actually anything like running a business.

of course not,
its a lot like running a communist voter fraud gig in Chicago..

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Ever looked up how he made those companies profitable? Simple... he fired people, closed up places, making it instantly profit more, stock values go up, and more investments come in... now that some skills. lol

VS letting companies go bankrupt sending everyone to unemployment.
He simply fired unproductive idiots that allowed productive idiots to retain their jobs.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

oh good lord satan another fucking businessman, what this country needs is a real leader like our founding fathers, not these religious fucking capitalists who put god and money before freedom.

Did Doc's cock get stuck in your throat ?
weren't some of the founding fathers business man and rich land owners as well ??
Are you aware that everyone of the founding fathers was a deeply religious individual as well ?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

Did Doc's cock get stuck in your throat ?
weren't some of the founding fathers business man and rich land owners as well ??
Are you aware that everyone of the founding fathers was a deeply religious individual as well ?

i dont even follow thedoc and barely post here what does he have to do with all this?

ah but they were not like this current breed of businessmen. They owned acres and acres of marijuana HAHAHA

but Thoas Jefferson also coined Separation of church and state. Nowadays, your religion is the BASIS of your campaign... it has no place in politics, nor do we need another starbucks owned idiot. We NEED REAL LEADERS.

know the diff between leaders and businessmen? Our founding fathers were LEADERS.

George Washington led army man, when last time we had a real pres who wasnt some rich college kid? WE NEED REAL LEADERS. Ya know, like Washington who would lead American Revolution, Obama, bush, they just whores for capitalism, not a leader at all.

see dictionary for difference.

[Fletch XXX]

here because it seems many seem to have the misconception that just because you can increase profits at a company you can be a leader.

NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership

most people hate politicians, they do NOT invoke leadership from most americans.

leaders do not need to beg you for a vote, you WANT to follow them to victory.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i dont even follow thedoc and barely post here what does he have to do with all this?

ah but they were not like this current breed of businessmen. They owned acres and acres of marijuana HAHAHA

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[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

but Thoas Jefferson also coined Separation of church and state. Nowadays, your religion is the BASIS of your campaign... it has no place in politics, nor do we need another starbucks owned idiot. We NEED REAL LEADERS.

.

They also coined "freedom OF religion" and not "freedom FROM religion"

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

of course not,
its a lot like running a communist voter fraud gig in Chicago..

Okay.... no idea what that has to do with anything or how that doesn't mean running the Government is nothing like running a business.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

VS letting companies go bankrupt sending everyone to unemployment.
He simply fired unproductive idiots that allowed productive idiots to retain their jobs.

That's not the point.... the "talking point" is that he took these companies and made them grow. Leading on that he actually did something - like made real improvements or improved the product / service quality, thus actually grew the low performing stores through his actual business skills.... ie: what you would really expect from a successful ceo that's running for President - if you truly expect to see "real" improvements.

Rather in reality, he walked in fired/removed costs so the profits went up, thus stock values increased because the company looked to be doing better on the books. Which just about every business person in the world has experience with, for sure if you made it through a recession - which is not much of a "presidential" skill, unless you think half the adult industry is qualified to be President as well.

[slavdogg]

So you're against making companies profitable ??

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

So you're against making companies profitable ??

Nope, never said that... kind of impossible to even get that out of what I said.