pretty good quote about the occupy wallstreet mob.

[12clicks]

Exhibit C. To the villainy-of-the-rich theme emanating from Washington, a child is born: Occupy Wall Street. Starbucks-sipping, Levi?s-clad, iPhone-clutching protesters denounce corporate America even as they weep for Steve Jobs, corporate titan, billionaire eight times over.

These indignant indolents saddled with their $50,000 student loans and English degrees have decided that their lack of gainful employment is rooted in the malice of the millionaires on whose homes they are now marching ? to the applause of Democrats suffering acute Tea Party envy and now salivating at the energy these big-government anarchists will presumably give their cause.

Except that the real Tea Party actually had a program ? less government, less regulation, less taxation, less debt. What?s the Occupy Wall Street program? Eat the rich.

And then what? Haven?t gotten that far.

No postprandial plans. But no matter. After all, this is not about programs or policies. This is about scapegoating, a failed administration trying to save itself by blaming our troubles ? and its failures ? on class enemies, turning general discontent into rage against a malign few.

[woj]

sums up the whole situation quite well indeed

[12clicks]

[Jarmusch]

Seems to me they want to win the lottery without buying a lottery ticket.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Exhibit C. To the villainy-of-the-rich theme emanating from Washington, a child is born: Occupy Wall Street. Starbucks-sipping, Levi?s-clad, iPhone-clutching protesters denounce corporate America even as they weep for Steve Jobs, corporate titan, billionaire eight times over.

These indignant indolents saddled with their $50,000 student loans and English degrees have decided that their lack of gainful employment is rooted in the malice of the millionaires on whose homes they are now marching ? to the applause of Democrats suffering acute Tea Party envy and now salivating at the energy these big-government anarchists will presumably give their cause.

Except that the real Tea Party actually had a program ? less government, less regulation, less taxation, less debt. What?s the Occupy Wall Street program? Eat the rich.

And then what? Haven?t gotten that far.

No postprandial plans. But no matter. After all, this is not about programs or policies. This is about scapegoating, a failed administration trying to save itself by blaming our troubles ? and its failures ? on class enemies, turning general discontent into rage against a malign few.

Well put.

[PR_Glen]

a job is a right now? that's a new one....

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Seems to me they want to win the lottery without buying a lottery ticket.

I drove past a sign in philly demanding free college tuition.

these people are in fantasy land where money grows on trees and no one should have to work for what they want

[Sly]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

LOL.

Rights.

Ahaha.

[TheDoc]

More media soaked up clueless banter.....

[Sly]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I drove past a sign in philly demanding free college tuition.

these people are in fantasy land where money grows on trees and no one should have to work for what they want

That "want" is particularly funny because it is now more obvious than ever that a college education really doesn't mean all that much. It takes much more than a piece of paper and 4-5 years in school.

Next they will want free jobs to match their free college tuition.

[will76]

What I find most humorous, besides their gripes being everything from anti war - to anti rich, is the ones who complain about the rich having all of the political power.

If these hippie, liberal morons would organize to get out and vote vs protesting then they would have political control.

I heard one of them saying " The richest 1% controls all of the political power". Well dumb asses, if you organized the other 99% to go out and vote YOU would have the political power. You would pick the candidates and could easily replace them if they didn't do what you wanted. The reason the 1% do have political influence is because most people don't vote.

These people who cry about not having control, most of them are the same ones that don't vote. If they took the same amount of energy they spend bitching and protesting and spent that on organizing and getting people to vote they would accomplish their goals. However, protesting is cool and a lot more fun for them.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Sly

LOL.

Rights.

Ahaha.

let me catch a hot girl holding an "eat the rich" sign................

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

to the applause of Democrats suffering acute Tea Party envy and now salivating at the energy these big-government anarchists will presumably give their cause.

so all the corporations funding the tea party are big-government anarchists?

good to know

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

these people are in fantasy land where money grows on trees and no one should have to work for what they want

Neither work, or pay, for what they want....

A lot of these people who want the government holding their wittle hand, and doing everything for them. But of course, no one wants to pay for it in taxes. I guess the government is just suppose to keep pulling money out of thin air (i.e. China).

Why people want the government up in their business 24/7/365 is beyond me.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Exhibit C. To the villainy-of-the-rich theme emanating from Washington, a child is born: Occupy Wall Street. Starbucks-sipping, Levi?s-clad, iPhone-clutching protesters denounce corporate America even as they weep for Steve Jobs, corporate titan, billionaire eight times over.

Sure, let's shut down all of these companies. You won't be able to wear your Levi's Jeans while using your iMac to find the nearest Starbucks.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

so all the corporations funding the tea party are big-government anarchists?

good to know

[FlexxAeon]

someone have the Koch bros/americans for prosperity/chamber of commerce generate a bullet list of demands for them then

oh yeah that's right...

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

someone have the Koch bros/americans for prosperity/chamber of commerce generate a bullet list of demands for them then

oh yeah that's right...

son, believing that horse shit is a sure sign life is going to be difficult for you.

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

son, believing that horse shit is a sure sign life is going to be difficult for you.

life's hard enough w/o tea party pawns thinking their 'movement' is any more valid than another

[grumpy]

capitalism as we know it, is dead, we need to find a new economic base.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

life's hard enough w/o tea party pawns thinking their 'movement' is any more valid than another

99% of the tea party has never heard of your boogie men, let alone received money from them.
Just as successful people can't understand the occupy wallstreet crowd, you don't understand the tea party. (beyond what your liberal sources have told you)

[Markul]

Originally Posted by grumpy

capitalism as we know it, is dead, we need to find a new economic base.

Peaches... it's the new gold!

[INDY500DRIVER]

As soon as I get another passport, my US one is DONE-SKEEE.. these fucking idiots in the US Govt can have it... Pretty soon this place will be full on socialism and have taxes like Italy.. in some cases more than 85% of your income.. Goodbye old US of A, thanks Grandpa for making this place great, thanks friends for fucking it all up.. thanks Gen X and Y for thinking you are entitled to ANYTHING... because.. you fucking arent.. Go play in your little leagues that dont keep score because everyone is a winner

[ReGGs]

Yeah the whole Koch bros funded tea party is a myth. Minus all this stuff.

"Americans for Prosperity Foundation?an organization that David Koch started, in 2004"

"A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party, ?The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It?s like they put the seeds in the ground."

"And she noted that Americans for Prosperity had provided Tea Party activists with lists of elected officials to target. She said of the Kochs, ?They?re certainly our people. David?s the chairman of our board. I?ve certainly met with them, and I?m very appreciative of what they do.?

"Americans for Prosperity has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement?s inception. In the weeks before the first Tax Day protests, in April, 2009, Americans for Prosperity hosted a Web site offering supporters ?Tea Party Talking Points.?



Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...#ixzz1amtfJOr6

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

99% of the tea party has never heard of your boogie men, let alone received money from them.
Just as successful people can't understand the occupy wallstreet crowd, you don't understand the tea party. (beyond what your liberal sources have told you)

like i said....pawns

there's not much to understand about either group. when you get down to the people they all want the same thing. but the whole "tea party is more grassroots" shit is highly laughable, and touting them for their organization skills only supports that laughter.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

like i said....pawns

there's not much to understand about either group. when you get down to the people they all want the same thing. but the whole "tea party is more grassroots" shit is highly laughable, and touting them for their organization skills only supports that laughter.

I'm sure you feel like you're right.

Its good to feel that way.

re-read my first post to you.

[epitome]

Both the Tea Party and OWS are stupid.

Everything is fine the way it is. Nothing needs to change.

[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'm sure you feel like you're right.

Its good to feel that way.

re-read my first post to you.

and then re-read my reply and we'll leave it in that infinite loop

[Si]

This bit is so true it is unreal:

Starbucks-sipping, Levi’s-clad, iPhone-clutching protesters denounce corporate America even as they weep for Steve Jobs, corporate titan, billionaire eight times over.

Sheeple

[crockett]

The Tea party didn't really have a focused message from the start and all the same hate speech aimed toward the left was and still is common place for them.

The only reason they managed to grow into any sort of real movement was because it was helped along by the right wing.

Notice when the Religious Right exited the stage in came the Tea Party as the Right's next political moment.

[epitome]

One thing I am tired of hearing about is the super rich acting like they're paying 30%+ of their income to to the IRS.

Warren Buffet paid 17.4% in 2010.

Guess what? Most middle class people are paying about the same %, some much more than that.

If we're going to have a debate, let's at least be honest about who is bringing what to the table.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

someone have the Koch bros/americans for prosperity/chamber of commerce generate a bullet list of demands for them then

oh yeah that's right...

or pay for the big jumbo tron screens or constant pushing events on fox news or media talking a big stage or big buses with big tea party stickers on them or the country singers playing at them. Yep they were grass roots lol

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Neither work, or pay, for what they want....

A lot of these people who want the government holding their wittle hand, and doing everything for them. But of course, no one wants to pay for it in taxes. I guess the government is just suppose to keep pulling money out of thin air (i.e. China).

Why people want the government up in their business 24/7/365 is beyond me.

if you worked in corporate america and over 45 . Good luck getting another job. OR you are a student with 80 grand on college debt and cant get a job.recent law grads working at starbucks. There are people working harder than any of us can imagine and not making shit.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...#ixzz1amtfJOr6

I did.
"""In April, 2009, Melissa Cohlmia, a company spokesperson, denied that the Kochs had direct links to the Tea Party, saying that Americans for Prosperity is ?an independent organization and Koch companies do not in any way direct their activities.? Later, she issued a statement: ?No funding has been provided by Koch companies, the Koch foundations, or Charles Koch or David Koch specifically to support the tea parties.? David Koch told New York, ?I?ve never been to a tea-party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me.?

the rest is a typical liberal hatchet job full of innuendo and no facts that the newyorker is known for.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by epitome

One thing I am tired of hearing about is the super rich acting like they're paying 30%+ of their income to to the IRS.

Warren Buffet paid 17.4% in 2010.

Guess what? Most middle class people are paying about the same %, some much more than that.

If we're going to have a debate, let's at least be honest about who is bringing what to the table.

they cant be honest if they are their argument falls apart.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I did.
"""In April, 2009, Melissa Cohlmia, a company spokesperson, denied that the Kochs had direct links to the Tea Party, saying that Americans for Prosperity is ?an independent organization and Koch companies do not in any way direct their activities.? Later, she issued a statement: ?No funding has been provided by Koch companies, the Koch foundations, or Charles Koch or David Koch specifically to support the tea parties.? David Koch told New York, ?I?ve never been to a tea-party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me.?

the rest is a typical liberal hatchet job full of innuendo and no facts that the newyorker is known for.

oh she said it so its true lol You made tubby laugh. Good job

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by epitome

One thing I am tired of hearing about is the super rich acting like they're paying 30%+ of their income to to the IRS.

Warren Buffet paid 17.4% in 2010.

Guess what? Most middle class people are paying about the same %, some much more than that.

If we're going to have a debate, let's at least be honest about who is bringing what to the table.

the rich DO pay about 30%+ in taxes as seen here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...d0iK_blog.html

When you add up all of the various taxes, and look at the effective tax rates, it is clear the tax system is already pretty progressive. Everyone pays some tax, even those who pay no federal income taxes, and the wealthiest pay a larger percentage share of taxes. Here?s the effective tax rate for all of the groups, according to the CBO:
Lowest quintile (23.4 million taxpayers), zero to $18,900: 4.3 percent
Second lowest quintile (22.4 million), $18,900-$32,100: 10.2 percent
Middle quintile (22.9 million), $32,100-$47,400: 14.2 percent
Fourth quintile (23 million), $47,400-$71,200: 17.6 percent
Highest quintile (23.6 million), above $71,200: 25.8 percent
Top 10 percent (12 million), minimum income of $98,100: 27.5 percent
Top 5 percent (5.9 million), minimum income of $134,400: 29 percent
Top 1 percent (1.1 million), minimum income of $332,300: 31.2 percent

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by tony286

they cant be honest if they are their argument falls apart.

I understand that thats how the bottom sees it but poor perspective does not change facts, it merely changes an idiots understanding of the facts.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by tony286

oh she said it so its true lol You made tubby laugh. Good job

so simply because you're a liar, you project your actions onto others and assume they're lying.
typical of the bottom

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by tony286

if you worked in corporate america and over 45 . Good luck getting another job. OR you are a student with 80 grand on college debt and cant get a job.recent law grads working at starbucks. There are people working harder than any of us can imagine and not making shit.

more lies from the left, eh tubby?

[PostWhore]

a crazy old man with tea bags around his head wielding a shotgun - a voice of reason.

educated people fed up with the welfare state of a middle class - a "mob" of crazies?

lol, this is a joke

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

Yeah the whole Koch bros funded tea party is a myth. Minus all this stuff.

"Americans for Prosperity Foundation?an organization that David Koch started, in 2004"

"A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party, ?The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It?s like they put the seeds in the ground."

"And she noted that Americans for Prosperity had provided Tea Party activists with lists of elected officials to target. She said of the Kochs, ?They?re certainly our people. David?s the chairman of our board. I?ve certainly met with them, and I?m very appreciative of what they do.?

"Americans for Prosperity has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement?s inception. In the weeks before the first Tax Day protests, in April, 2009, Americans for Prosperity hosted a Web site offering supporters ?Tea Party Talking Points.?



Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...#ixzz1amtfJOr6

guess there isn't enough 'idiots' and quotes from 'caddyshack' to bury the reality of the delusion of some of the people on this board

[tony286]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

so simply because you're a liar, you project your actions onto others and assume they're lying.
typical of the bottom

If Im a liar, then Im in good company
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/koch-i...ry?id=14676652

Charles and David Koch, the secretive billionaire brothers behind the Koch Industries, are a huge financial force in the conservative political movement. According to one estimate, they've contributed more than $100 million to conservative political causes, and a foundation that they back has trained thousands of Tea Party activists.


The trading with Iran involved Koch subsidiaries in Germany and Italy providing key components for a huge state-owned petro-chemical plant, despite a U.S. ban on trade with Iran since 1995.

One order was placed on January 29, 2003, the day after President Bush told Congress in his State of the Union message that Iran continued to be an enemy of the U.S. that "represses its people, pursues weapons of mass destruction and supports terror."

[_Richard_]

12clicks is having a melt down

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by tony286

If Im a liar, then Im in good company
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/koch-i...ry?id=14676652

Charles and David Koch, the secretive billionaire brothers behind the Koch Industries, are a huge financial force in the conservative political movement. According to one estimate, they've contributed more than $100 million to conservative political causes, and a foundation that they back has trained thousands of Tea Party activists.


The trading with Iran involved Koch subsidiaries in Germany and Italy providing key components for a huge state-owned petro-chemical plant, despite a U.S. ban on trade with Iran since 1995.

One order was placed on January 29, 2003, the day after President Bush told Congress in his State of the Union message that Iran continued to be an enemy of the U.S. that "represses its people, pursues weapons of mass destruction and supports terror."

thank you sir

[tony286]

Originally Posted by PostWhore

a crazy old man with tea bags around his head wielding a shotgun - a voice of reason.

educated people fed up with the welfare state of a middle class - a "mob" of crazies?

lol, this is a joke

its frank luntz talking points they are all saying.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by PostWhore

a crazy old man with tea bags around his head wielding a shotgun - a voice of reason.

educated people who've never worked a hard day in their life fed up with the welfare state of a middle class and laying in their own waste - a "mob" of crazies?

lol, this is a joke

there, fixed it for you.

[ReGGs]

It seems like the Rich need to stop vilifying themselves with their support of the occupy movement. It seems like the top earners or "intelligent" people support ows more than any other group.

Wonder what that is all about?

"Occupy Wall Street most popular with high earners"
Less than $ 30,000: 35-27
$ 30,000 to $ 50,000: 35-28
$ 50,000 to $ 75,000: 34-40
$ 75,000 to $ 100,000: 33-35
Over $ 100,000: 44-31
Declined to Answer: 24-30

http://hotspyer.com/2011/10/12/occup...-high-earners/

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by tony286

If Im a liar, then Im in good company
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/koch-i...ry?id=14676652

Charles and David Koch, the secretive billionaire brothers behind the Koch Industries, are a huge financial force in the conservative political movement. According to one estimate, they've contributed more than $100 million to conservative political causes, and a foundation that they back has trained thousands of Tea Party activists.

no, you're simply not bright enough to understand what this means:
"""In April, 2009, Melissa Cohlmia, a company spokesperson, denied that the Kochs had direct links to the Tea Party, saying that Americans for Prosperity is ?an independent organization and Koch companies do not in any way direct their activities.? Later, she issued a statement: ?No funding has been provided by Koch companies, the Koch foundations, or Charles Koch or David Koch specifically to support the tea parties.? David Koch told New York, ?I?ve never been to a tea-party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me.?

[tony286]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

no, you're simply not bright enough to understand what this means:
"""In April, 2009, Melissa Cohlmia, a company spokesperson, denied that the Kochs had direct links to the Tea Party, saying that Americans for Prosperity is ?an independent organization and Koch companies do not in any way direct their activities.? Later, she issued a statement: ?No funding has been provided by Koch companies, the Koch foundations, or Charles Koch or David Koch specifically to support the tea parties.? David Koch told New York, ?I?ve never been to a tea-party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me.?

tubby not bright but no sheep