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Old 10-17-2011, 08:59 PM   #1
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Thank GOD They Shut Down Napster

Yeah, I was a thieving ne'er do well, downloading the influential songs of my youth off Napster without paying. Thank God I can't do THAT anymore. Enter Youtube. ROFL.

This is NOT a live bootleg recording of KISS in Toronto, Sept. 6, 1976.

Every song I downloaded off Napster, I can download off Youtube with higher quality. Only difference is, with Youtube, I have to stare at a pointless graphic. With Napster, I got the music, with Youtube, I have to stare at the album covers.

Oh, well..

This is the exact same song - but of much higher quality - that I downloaded off Napster years ago. I actually have the whole Varsity Stadium, 1976 show downloaded and burned onto CD, but the Youtube versions sound SO much better...

KISS, Toronto, Sept. 1976:



Its a board tape. If you're a musician you might have a clue what a board tape is... If you're not, it does not matter. I guarantee you DO NOT want to hear a board tape of your favourite artists.

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Old 10-17-2011, 09:01 PM   #2
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You know there is sites that'll strip the songs from YouTube videos and let you download it?
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:03 PM   #3
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You know there is sites that'll strip the songs from YouTube videos and let you download it?
Plenty of them.
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:09 PM   #4
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Also plenty of sites that have clearly copyrighted songs (just released albums) ready to download from their server in mp3 form. How they get away with it no idea.
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:23 PM   #5
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You know there is sites that'll strip the songs from YouTube videos and let you download it?
I did not know that. But I actualy bought a copy of the half inch tape recorded directly from the board from that KISS concert, back when I was 13 years old.

Direct from mixer to half inch. Its fucking beautiful. I don't even think Gene Simmons has sold this tape yet - no video to go along with it.

Here's more KISS from Sept 6, 1976. Hotter Than Hell - Nothin' To Lose!



I bought a copy of the board tapes - They beat the wonky personal cassette recorder tapes I USED to listen to. My first concert, Sept 6, 1976. Arena seating - $6.

I had the ticket stubs from that ancient time, now I have the fucking tapes. They are fucking PRISTINE!

I am so happy!

Go away! (Not my Youtube channel, btw...)
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #6
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is the quality of most of those recordings on youtube really that good? what is the bitrate of the mp3s?
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:06 PM   #7
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is the quality of most of those recordings on youtube really that good? what is the bitrate of the mp3s?
considering the videos are under 400 kbps. I doubt the music bitrate is very good at all.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:12 PM   #8
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considering the videos are under 400 kbps. I doubt the music bitrate is very good at all.
It isn't. I've tried to grab extremely rare music from youtube that was presented in 720p (minimum) and the bitrate sounded way shitty. The file says it was 160kbps, but it sounded more like 92kbps. Blech.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:15 PM   #9
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It isn't. I've tried to grab extremely rare music from youtube that was presented in 720p (minimum) and the bitrate sounded way shitty. The file says it was 160kbps, but it sounded more like 92kbps. Blech.
Even 160 isn't that great to me. At minimum I like 256 kbps.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:32 AM   #10
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320kbps or die.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:15 AM   #11
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Where did you live until now?
Have you ever heard about torrents?
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:18 AM   #12
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everyone on here had blank tape copies, of music and blank vhs copies of movies too.

its all pot calling kettle black when it comes to adult and music "theft"
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:27 AM   #13
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:29 AM   #14
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few weeks ago i found out about one cool label i didn't know for even since i knew their artists for years.

just went to discogs.com and looked up for them, copy/pasted artist album in google and found bunch of direct download links to super high quality mp3 rips in no time and had complete discography from that label in like an hour.

now just imagine that happened 15-20yrs ago, how much money and time would it take me to get all those albums and cassette copies would still be inferior to the originals...
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:31 AM   #15
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:00 AM   #16
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you guys are wrong about the bitrates. 192 is the best stable bitrate, anything above digitally fucks up the balance of high and low, primarely too much bass. Every mp3 ive got with a stable bitrate above 192 sounds worse than the 192 file.

Variable bitrate is the best, after that 192.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:01 AM   #17
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.flv => .mp3

conversion @ linux command line:

ffmpeg -i /media/sata1/mp3conv/song_name.flv -ab 128000 -ar 44100 /media/sata1/mp3conv/newMP3/song_name.mp3

128000 is the bit rate 128Kbps you can change that to whatever you want ...
44100 Hz is the sample rate

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Old 10-18-2011, 06:04 AM   #18
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I sometimes think you're an idiot from your posts here.

I will cut you some slack, now that I know you're a fellow KISS fanatic.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:07 AM   #19
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:14 AM   #20
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One point to consider -- youtube pays license for a lot of the content and a lot of copyright holders have placed their music videos there.

That is not to say that there is a lot of "user uploaded copyright infringing content" there but they remove it as requested.

This is the way of the digital world and right or wrong its not going to change.

The courts agreed with Google -- Viacom International, Inc. v. YouTube, Inc., No. 07 Civ. 2103 (2010) it's settled ...
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:34 AM   #21
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you guys are wrong about the bitrates. 192 is the best stable bitrate, anything above digitally fucks up the balance of high and low, primarely too much bass. Every mp3 ive got with a stable bitrate above 192 sounds worse than the 192 file.

Variable bitrate is the best, after that 192.
I don't see how decreasing the amount of compression could make the sound worse.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:40 AM   #22
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you guys are wrong about the bitrates. 192 is the best stable bitrate, anything above digitally fucks up the balance of high and low, primarely too much bass. Every mp3 ive got with a stable bitrate above 192 sounds worse than the 192 file.

Variable bitrate is the best, after that 192.
fuck mp3s. lossless ftw.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:41 AM   #23
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I emailed link to Gene Simmons.

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Old 10-18-2011, 06:41 AM   #24
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i used to download a lot of bootlegs back in the day(2001-2002). I must have 5000 or so. These were all live recordings. All downloaded via torrents and the quality is about the highest you can get as they are all flac/shn files. i burned them all to cd. i considered it a hobby for a while but eventually it got to be too much so i stopped.
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