riddle me this... join submits

[JohnRingo]

how do i have join submits in NATS and no sales?

[epitome]

It means someone tried to join but was rejected. Lack of funds, incorrect card number, name not matching and many more reasons.

[JohnRingo]

Fucking losers

[Arton]

Also some of this form submit are from spam bots, its happens in one sponsors I have much more joins submits than join hits

[IllTestYourGirls]

I have some sponsors with a ton of submits and few sales.

[BIGTYMER]

They changed their mind.

[gleem]

No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by gleem

No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.

This. Join submit is basically an email submit, no payment information. A lot of people feel they can get more joins if they don't mention the price till the second page, and I tend to agree, however it also dramatically increases join submits by people who are never going to buy anything, ever.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by gleem

No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.

Is this the page they count as "join submits" or the next one after the surfer fills out their usename/pass?

http://www2.yourgirlfriends.com/sign...=2&qualify= 1

[Supz]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Is this the page they count as "join submits" or the next one after the surfer fills out their usename/pass?

http://www2.yourgirlfriends.com/sign...=2&qualify= 1

This one, but what he is trying to say, a lot of programs dont have the dollar amount on this page. Just room for username, password email etc. Then it takes them to another page with CC information.


Which would look more like this (just came upon this yesterday when going over the domains for sale thread)

http://boobs.com/join.php

[JohnRingo]

so basically... email on the page but no price...

means they are skimming emails and screwing you out of a sale

dirtballs in porn? no way!

[porno jew]

no retard. most people do what i do and type in [email protected] just to see the price (and cross sales).

but keep at it and you can break 300 next month.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

so basically... email on the page but no price...

means they are skimming emails and screwing you out of a sale

dirtballs in porn? no way!

btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by porno jew

btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.

Every post I have links to the sponsor in a very effective way. Much better ctr on the post themselves than from the sidebar.

[JohnRingo]

Originally Posted by porno jew

btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.

Yeah ok. Not every internet user is savvy. I would say the most savvy are just stealing ur content from torrents or watching it on illegal tubes.

So I'm betting there are more than a few that use their real email address. And If u aren't following up with those emails u are the retard.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

Every post I have links to the sponsor in a very effective way. Much better ctr on the post themselves than from the sidebar.

i looked at your site and could see no sponsor links. i could be wrong.

[JohnRingo]

Yeah. U r wrong. They are all there

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

This. Join submit is basically an email submit, no payment information. A lot of people feel they can get more joins if they don't mention the price till the second page, and I tend to agree, however it also dramatically increases join submits by people who are never going to buy anything, ever.

It also allows the sponsor to build a database of emails to use to try to sell memberships later. Or in some cases to push other programs. Guess what the affiliate usually gets for this? If I were an unscrupulous sponsor I might even rig it so any affiliate sent join is automatically declined 9/10 times. Then instantly (or an hour after the affiliate cookie expires if with the same processor) send an email using another processor and offer them a $5 discount for the inconvenience. This way you cut out the affiliate who originally sent you that join and even with the $5 discount you still come out ahead.

Affiliates need to be vigilant and check their sponsors for these things. Sign up a new fake email address to one of these forms and see what gets sent to you. You may be surprised.

Cardinal rule: If I'm not making money from my traffic my sponsors shouldn't either!