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not to discount what you said but i am pretty sure this was on a campus, not public property but private property , and one that i imagine the students had paid to be on, makes it a bit different scenario that just sounds like sheep talk. Lets take a hypothetical situation, you are having a birthday party in a local park with 20-30 friends, a group of armed police suddenly show up and say "disperse this riot now or you will be pepper sprayed" .. Would you run to your car or would you say "hey i think you have made a mistake , this is just a birthday party". Lets imagine you chose the latter like 99% of people would ![]()
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i wonder what our founding fathers would have done if there was cops telling them not to continue with the revolution
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Those cops clearly stated and warned that if they won't leave you will be sprayed and removed. What else could they do? Ok I see someone explained it before me: Quote:
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That wasn't a warning it was an imminent notice. Your example is too skewed to be serious. You don't have the right to argue law in the field with police, it's their call. If you are given opportunity to leave, pending arrest otherwise then your only legal right is to either leave or argue in court while wearing prison greys. It's *not* RIGHT WING to enforce authority. There is a THIN LINE between your LIBERTY and LOSING MOST ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS. If you get caught smoking a joint THEN you can be stripped naked every day of the week and ordered where to sit, stand and lie down for 5 years, and gassed to sleep in your cell IN PRISON You guys are sweating the small stuff, pitching tents where you like and dishing it out to police is nobodies right. |
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I do not understand why some of you use that "paid to be on" argument. They paid tuition but they did not get permission to camp on the property. In this scenario property owner asked them to stop camping. If you are student there you do not get the rights to do whatever you want on that property just because you paid tuition. Tuition does not include camping. And Property owner was right to ask them to leave.
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then you stop them from camping.. you are aware of parking rules , but you would be hard pressed to find someone who expects to be tear gassed for it. normally we remove the car Quote:
false , he can tell them to stop camping , he can't make them leave as they have paid to be there, he can make them stop camping.. that is what should have been done..
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you're not making any sense!
the police ASKED THEM TO REMOVE THEIR TENTS just like you are saying what they should have done! This is your idea of Utopia: POLICEMAN: THIS IS NOT A CAMPING AREA, PLEASE REMOVE YOUR TENTS STUDENT: NO! POLICEMAN: OK THEN, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME MARSHMELLOWS? |
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I wonder if she was the one who made the decision to demand to the tents be taken down.
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![]() these people are sitting on ground blocking the sidewalk nothing more, they are not sittin in tents. in fact, the articles claim "the officers were surrounded" but you can easily tell by video, there is no circle anymore, they are in a single line across the walkway entrance to school, no tents, no circle.
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In other words, I can't drive my car on the grass and park it there. It's public property, owned by the state, but that does not give me the right to do whatever the fuck I want there. You can't park on the grass, and you can't pitch tents. Quote:
Why don't you understand this: When police are called to a dispute and tell you to leave the area, that's a legal order. If you fail to obey them, your quickly on the wrong side of the law no matter what - You can start with trespassing, failure to obey a police officer, and creating a nuisance. At that point they can arrest you, and if you resist arrest you'll be taken down by force - including pepper spray. This has nothing to do with protesting. The cops didn't come to break up a protest; The came because the college called them because the students were out of control and failed to listen to the administration. The cops came to the dispute, the children refused to listen, and the children got arrested. It doesn't matter if it's children on a college campus or grown adults arguing over picnic tables in the local park.
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there's a lot of different accounts, the reports, the tents, the ownership of the property is not that important.
the students were 1/ nuisance 2/ disturbance 3/ trespassing 4/ loitering 5/ interfering with public access 6/ disrupting University work Take your pick! as well as not abiding by the University ethos The police were rightfully called in and had the right to disperse the students. If you remove the authority of police you live in anarchy. It's like grabbing a kitten by the back of the neck, pepper spray SAVED any injuries from happening. It was either that or going in with batons, or the law just lying down. "Sorry Chancellor, the students said no they're going to block access to the University anyway, we asked!" |
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At this point this incident had nothing to do with the college. Police were called to the campus because of a dispute; At this point it was a legal matter. If police are called to the your local Best Buy because your making a scene and the police tell you to leave, it doesn't matter that it's public property. Your either leaving or going to jail.
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No. The cops say, "Please remove your tents and vacate the area"; to which the protestors say "No!". Son of a bitch! Respect my authoritah! Then the highly trained law-enfocement agent (ROFL!) calmly writes a number of tickets for a variety of bylaw infractions, and the whole thing is sorted out in court at a later date. But, no... Stupid, idealistic people arbitrarily get pepper-sprayed in the face, and your property taxes go up because the municipality that this happened in has a shitload of out-of-court settlements to deal with. A Message From The Mayor Of Your City: Quote:
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wait, where the tents at? ;)
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Really? You said there was no circle and officers were not surrounded. You're wrong completely. The tents were removed but THAT has NOTHING to do with the students that all sat and locked themselves in that circle and refused to leave who were chanting "Fuck the police" among other things.
The police that came at them with pepper spray, were not the ones on the inside of the circle, it was ones that came up the sidewalk from outside of the circle. Its all pretty clear if you actually did watch the video. I know that actual facts are a bit bothersome.
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obviously youre taking this quite seriously.
![]() looks to me its not even full circle, looks like its broken on both sides and its mostly just bystanders sitting and people looking at the cops, not really a full circle imo. this can be shown by the fact the ones in front camera face outward, whereas all people in back are facing inwards. LOL
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it may have been a circle at one time but as the event wound down people dismantled tents and then watched with cameras in hand at cops... no one was attacking them or anything, all this talk of tents and private property is irrelevant its about SPRAYING students in face with chemicals that burn people and cause severe skin irritation and/or inflammation reactions for sitting on sidewalk. spit on a cop, sure, id say mace your ass. really... but these people were not doing anything.
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I was simply correcting his re-imagining of the actual events and circumstances. Not saying the protesters look dangerous or trying to break down and analyze the structural integrity of the circle.
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Any decent cop will tell you that "if you are met with force you respond with force" and in all of these videos/pics there is no indication that any of those students was using force against any officer when the cops sprayed them.
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The truth of it is, there is a full video that documents the entire thing from start to finish on youtube. I know because I watched it.
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except for the fact it was on a college , college students and college police .. besides that sure.. lol this isn't a best buy and nobody pays tuition to best buy, furthermore nobody lives at a best buy. If your dorm is on school property you have a right to be there as you have likely paid rent, the school cannot just ask you to leave just as your landlord couldn't ask you to leave if you had paid rent.. You could however be expelled for breaking school rules, that is all that should have happened here.. the cops should have removed the tents and given them all tickets, if the school feels the violation is ground for expulsion then thats what they should do..
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For those that missed it. It is 15 minutes long, so it includes before backup arrived. There is no doubt that this was a crowd of 300-400 people all encircling about 10 cops. About 5 minutes in backup arrives and the crowd disperses on one side of the sidewalk, except the kids that decided they were not going to move. I have a feeling they will the next time. |
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sure they can.. the police can order you to do anything they want.. when you follow them blindly it makes you a sheep.
once again you must be watching the wrong video , there are no children there.. although a tad sad you would call college students "children" when you sell porn with girls of the same age.. ![]() if those 20+ yo students are children what is this ? ch_____ porn ? http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/bl...lege-babe.html
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there's a time and a place to protest.
the police tell you to move you move. you're all brainwashed with police drama on TV every night "I KNOW MY RIGHTS... EITHER LAY CHARGES AND ARREST ME OR I"M FREE TO DO ANYTHING I WANT" you're all dreaming! don't listen to logic in this thread and you'll get a can of capsicum in your face and sit in a cell with drongos for months on end. your choice! </THREAD> |
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If the parents of this trash had adequately raised their children then none of this would have been necessary. These spoiled self-deluded mutts screaming about how the world owes them something are the result of poor parenting. ![]()
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In general I agree...... except that bashing the fuck out of rioting degenerate hippie trash is basically the only legitimate function of the police. Most of what they do on a day-to-day basis is an outrage...... but maintaining public order is about the only thing they are supposed to be doing.
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