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Old 11-28-2011, 04:37 PM   #1
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Facebook will soon be on the stock exchange.. Who is buying ?

Facebook Inc. is targeting dates between April 2012 and June 2012 for an initial public offering of its stock, said people familiar with the matter.

Facebook is in internal discussions over the timing of its filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission for the IPO, and is considering filing dates as early as this year, these people said.

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Why all of the sudden? Wasn't it a long term stand that they were gonna stay away from going public? Are they finally starting to see some competition from somewhere and want to do the money grab while still on top? Seems odd they are going public this late in the game being they are already on top.
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:54 PM   #7
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Why all of the sudden? Wasn't it a long term stand that they were gonna stay away from going public? Are they finally starting to see some competition from somewhere and want to do the money grab while still on top? Seems odd they are going public this late in the game being they are already on top.
maybe because of this

"The company is exploring raising $10 billion in an IPO that could value Facebook at more than $100 billion"
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maybe becuase of this

"The company is exploring raising $10 billion in an IPO that could value Facebook at more than $100 billion"
So it's just a money grab. I mean I just watched an interview with them a week or two ago where they had no plans to start any new outside ventures, but to just keep doing what they are doing with FB.
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So it's just a money grab.
I guess so
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It's going to go down as the money grab of all worthlessness in all of history. watch
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:39 AM   #13
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i bet they drop in value as soon as they are sold.

in 6 years time facebook will be the next myspace.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:39 AM   #15
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Now that would be a great company to go public. It would be a great buy or make the FFN crash look like a storm in a tea cup.

[IMG]i bet they drop in value as soon as they are sold.

in 6 years time facebook will be the next myspace.[/IMG]

I tend to agree with you. Why are they worth $100 billion, is the ad revenue that much a year or $10 billion a year?

Going public means they have to open their books for scrutiny. So income will be there on the balance sheet.
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I wouldn't... just look at the history of ALL the other big mainstream social networks before facebook. The sheeple will move elsewhere in due time. Invest in weed.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:22 PM   #18
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I wouldn't... just look at the history of ALL the other big mainstream social networks before facebook. The sheeple will move elsewhere in due time. Invest in weed.
The Social Site User base has always been and probably always will be transient, FB is in no different position than any that came before or will come in the future. There will always been something new and hot. as will there always be the old and stale.

Personally I think it's a serious mistake by FB to focus "only" on FB and not move into other areas on and offline. Eventually they will lose the throne and then what will be left?

I mean really would any of you buy FB stock to hold for 20 or 30 years like say you might with Ford, GM, GE, Sony.. ect..ect? Now say the same thing about Google whom has moved into several areas both on and offline. I know which one I'd rather stick with for a long term investment.

FB ipo is nothing but a money grab with it coming out this late in the game.

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The Social Site User base has always been and probably always will be transient, FB is in no different position than any that came before or will come in the future. There will always been something new and hot. as will there always be the old and stale.

Personally I think it's a serious mistake by FB to focus "only" on FB and not move into other areas on and offline. Eventually they will lose the throne and then what will be left?

I mean really would any of you buy FB stock to hold for 20 or 30 years like say you might with Ford, GM, GE, Sony.. ect..ect? Now say the same thing about Google whom has moved into several areas both on and offline. I know which one I'd rather stick with for a long term investment.

FB ipo is nothing but a money grab with it coming out this late in the game.

Quoted for truth!

Buying stock in a "Fan based system" is short term.
Short term in like it would have been great six years ago and now you could
dump it on the idiots.

I mean, what "new technology" are they creating....A new wall layout?

"Now you can connect with even more useless motherfuckers that you don't care about".


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Why all of the sudden? Wasn't it a long term stand that they were gonna stay away from going public? Are they finally starting to see some competition from somewhere and want to do the money grab while still on top? Seems odd they are going public this late in the game being they are already on top.
The limited for private companies is 500 investors before they have to start filing. FB is either there or about to be. Why not go public if you have to file reports anyway?

Congress is looking into changing the law to 2000 investors before having to publicly report.

To get around the 500 investor limit, companies like Goldman setup companies that only invested in facebook, meaning each "investor" in Facebook could really be 500 investors. I think there were some issues with them doing this as it was only done to skirt that requirement but I can't remember.
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The limited for private companies is 500 investors before they have to start filing. FB is either there or about to be. Why not go public if you have to file reports anyway?

Congress is looking into changing the law to 2000 investors before having to publicly report.

To get around the 500 investor limit, companies like Goldman setup companies that only invested in facebook, meaning each "investor" in Facebook could really be 500 investors. I think there were some issues with them doing this as it was only done to skirt that requirement but I can't remember.
The point I was getting at is it's way late in the game for them to offer stock considering they aren't doing anything "new". Considering that social websites have shelf lives that are rather short in investment terms, I just can't see this as anything more than a money grab.

This is not a company that is looking for funding to expand into new markets or products.. It's a company that is already at the top and is looking to do nothing new. They will eventually not be at the top and then what?

The FB guys know this and are just milking the cow one more time before the cow runs dry. Sure there might be some money to be made trading the stock on the short term, but we all know where this is eventually going to go and that's exactly what is wrong with wall street these days.

It's not about funding companies but instead creating money out of nothing for investors and dumping before it crashes. That's not a sustainable market. This is no different than a pink sheet pump & dump because maybe it will be a week maybe two years but FB stock is not going to be anything in the end.

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There is still tons facebook can do.

They're not limited to social.

They can do anything they want, just like google.

Facebook wants to have a part of just about everything you do on the web and they're big enough and popular enough to accomplish it.
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There is still tons facebook can do.

They're not limited to social.

They can do anything they want, just like google.
Providing they actually provide / invest in a diverse range of services which are portable outside of the Facebook platform. If they stay constrained within the Facebook platform (development wise) they run the risk of being the LiveJournal or MySpace of the 2010's.
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Providing they actually provide / invest in a diverse range of services which are portable outside of the Facebook platform. If they stay constrained within the Facebook platform (development wise) they run the risk of being the LiveJournal or MySpace of the 2010's.
I don't care if facebook lasts or fails.

If I had to bet though my money would go on them continuing to grow.

I used MySpace for two years, LJ for one. Facebook for four.

Google+ seems to be growing rapidly though so who knows.
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Monday it was estimated close to $1 billion was to be spent online. This was the best day in the year for online sales. So it's not too crazy to assume the entire online revenue is around $200 to $250 billion. So how do they rate FB to be worth $100 when all it does is carry advertising for the sites selling with a few games it sells?

Adverting mainstream can't be more than 20% of the total revenue, FB can be #2 or #5 in a few years.
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I don't care if facebook lasts or fails.

If I had to bet though my money would go on them continuing to grow.

I used MySpace for two years, LJ for one. Facebook for four.

Google+ seems to be growing rapidly though so who knows.
I tend to agree Facebook isn't going anywhere soon, but I'm not betting money on it.
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Monday it was estimated close to $1 billion was to be spent online.
You're joking right ? $1 billion would be spent online measured in the hours, not days months or years.
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So how do they rate FB to be worth $100 when all it does is carry advertising for the sites selling with a few games it sells?
one word. traffic.
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There is still tons facebook can do.

They're not limited to social.

They can do anything they want, just like google.

Facebook wants to have a part of just about everything you do on the web and they're big enough and popular enough to accomplish it.
Sure they "could" expand into other things but they aren't. They have specifically stated that they have no intentions of doing anything out side of FB. They plan to stay focused on FB so they can "do it well".



All they are interested in is building the social technology as they claim. Eventually that isn't going to be enough when someone else comes along to become the next new/hip thing.
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Sure they "could" expand into other things but they aren't. They have specifically stated that they have no intentions of doing anything out side of FB. They plan to stay focused on FB so they can "do it well".

All they are interested in is building the social technology as they claim. Eventually that isn't going to be enough when someone else comes along to become the next new/hip thing.
He's going to be kicking himself soon.
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