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Old 11-25-2011, 11:44 PM   #1
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Suffolk Co. NY to hear proposal to ban Chemtrails

Could the dam FINALLY be breaking in the plight to stop Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering (aka Chemtrails)? If passed, this would be the first county in the USA to ban the practice.

This looks encouraging!


Suffolk Co. NY to hear proposal to ban chemtrails

"On Dec. 6, New York?s Suffolk County government will hold a public hearing on a proposal to ban aerial spraying of aluminum oxide, barium, sulfur, and other salts into the air over the county without first filing an Environmental Impact Statement with and receiving approval from the county?s Department of Health Services, Division of Environmental Quality."

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?If this proposal becomes law in Suffolk County, Long Island, it would be the first in the nation. It would be a starting point for others to follow,? said LISW in a press release. ?Eventually, our governments would have to investigate why our trees are dying in record numbers; why our waters contain toxic levels of aluminum, barium and strontium; why 90% of us are vitamin D deficient; why our crops are failing; and where all of this crazy weather is coming from.?


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you are blowing my mind. i guess my simple brain can't handle the truth.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:53 PM   #3
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yeah it's not industrial pollution that's killing trees and poisoning lakes, it's the new world order. that's the most logical conclusion.
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If you have never heard of Stratospheric Aerosol Geo-Engineering / Chemtrails, here's a great place to start.

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chemtrails... where do they come up with this bullshit?
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The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
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Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist with NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, is quoted in USA Today as saying that logic is not exactly a real selling point for most chemtrail proponents: "If you try to pin these people down and refute things, it's, 'Well, you're just part of the conspiracy'," he said.
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In 1996, a chemtrail conspiracy theory began to circulate when the United States Air Force (USAF) was accused of "spraying the US population with mysterious substances" from aircraft "generating unusual contrail patterns."[4] The Air Force says these accusations were a hoax fueled in part by citations to a strategy paper drafted within the Air Force's Air University entitled Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025.[10][11] The paper was presented in response to a military directive to outline a future strategic weather modification system for the purpose of maintaining the United States' military dominance in the year 2025, and identified as "fictional representations of future situations/scenarios."[11] The Air Force further clarified that the paper "does not reflect current military policy, practice, or capability," and that it is "not conducting any weather modification experiments or programs and has no plans to do so in the future."[4][12] Additionally, the Air Force states that the "'Chemtrail' hoax has been investigated and refuted by many established and accredited universities, scientific organizations, and major media publications."[4]
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Those are condensation trails.
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Good luck with that. What are they gonna do, shoot them down? Keep all aircraft out of their airspace?

WTF?

Maybe the U.S. government should initiate new nuclear trials overColorado. After typing THAT, I had THIS brainstorm...

Bugs Bunny and Black Jack Shellac (America spelling...)... Oh, fuck it.

You self-absorbed Americans are screwed. All you do is fight and argue with the entire world. You can't even agree with each other.

I'm just going to drink beer and laugh at your decline. You're in line to have the shortest lived Empire in the history of the world.

Can you get your shit together? No...

Its OK, my American friends... GOD will fix it all for you. ROFL!
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yeah it's not industrial pollution that's killing trees and poisoning lakes, it's the new world order. that's the most logical conclusion.
Who said anything about the NWO??

Industrial pollution is not dumped out of KC-135's, KC-10A's, and C-130 turboprops at 2,000 feet.

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Who said anything about the NWO??

Industrial pollution is not dumped out of KC-135's, KC-10A's, and C-130 turboprops at 2,000 feet.

who is behind it then and what is their purpose?

sadistic air force pilots?
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Who said anything about the NWO??

Industrial pollution is not dumped out of KC-135's, KC-10A's, and C-130 turboprops at 2,000 feet.

look like a bunch of question marks ?
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who is behind it then and what is their purpose?

sadistic air force pilots?
The purpose? I dunno, but possibly..

1. weather modification
2. mass depopulation
3. mass inoculation
4. HAARP

..no one seems to have a clear answer. At least part of the spraying seems to be for weather modification and/or neutralizing global warming effects.

All I know is that spraying barium, nano-aluminium coated fibreglass (known as CHAFF), radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dessicated blood, mould spores, yellow fungal mycotoxins, ethylene dibromide and polymer fibres, and god knows what else can't be healthy.

I know when they spray in my area, my ears feel plugged, my throat is sore, and I generally feel flu-like symptoms.
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Just did some digging. Some of most common symptoms related to chemtrails include:

- headaches worse than migraines
- heartburn
- heart conditions
- heart arrest, on the _rare_ occasion
- flu-like symptoms
- extreme fatigue
- diarrhea
- pain and swelling of muscles and joints
- dizziness
- nausea
- stiff neck
- nagging sore throat
- general malaise
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Eventually, our governments would have to investigate why our trees are dying in record numbers; why our waters contain toxic levels of aluminum, barium and strontium; why 90% of us are vitamin D deficient; why our crops are failing; and where all of this crazy weather is coming from.?
if the government was behind poisoning everyone they aren't going to admit it..
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In 2008, a KSLA news investigation found that a substance that fell to earth from a high altitude chemtrail contained high levels of Barium (6.8 ppm) and Lead (8.2 ppm) as well as trace amounts of other chemicals including arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium and silver. Of these, all but one are metals, some are toxic while several are rarely or never found in nature.

The newscast focuses on Barium, which its research shows is a "hallmark of chemtrails." KSLA found Barium levels in its samples at 6.8 ppm or "more than six times the toxic level set by the EPA." The Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality confirmed that the high levels of Barium were "very unusual," but commented that "proving the source was a whole other matter" in its discussion with KSLA.

KSLA also asked Mark Ryan, Director of the Poison Control Center, about the effects of Barium on the human body. Ryan commented that "short term exposure can lead to anything from stomach to chest pains and that long term exposure causes blood pressure problems." The Poison Control Center further reported that long-term exposure, as with any harmful substance, would contribute to weakening the immune system, which many speculate is the purpose of such man-made chemical trails.
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In 2008, a KSLA news investigation found that a substance that fell to earth from a high altitude chemtrail contained high levels of Barium
you did see the part where they got the sample from a guy who said the chemtrails dropped into jars of water on his dads truck right ?
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
You and I both would have said the same thing if someone told us about the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment years back, or about many other unbelievable things that have taken place that ended up being true.

I don't put anything past anyone, regardless of if it doesn't make sense to me at the time or not.
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Please, just hush. I have to go back to Canada tomorrow flying from NY and you make me feel guilty.


Does sarcasm come across clearly? If not I want to point out I was being sarcastic. My chemtrail will be half beer half White Castle. Suck on it.
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Just did some digging. Some of most common symptoms related to chemtrails include:

- headaches worse than migraines
- heartburn
- heart conditions
- heart arrest, on the _rare_ occasion
- flu-like symptoms
- extreme fatigue
- diarrhea
- pain and swelling of muscles and joints
- dizziness
- nausea
- stiff neck
- nagging sore throat
- general malaise
Thats Life in general.
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I don't put anything past anyone, regardless of if it doesn't make sense to me at the time or not.
Exactly. Usually you have nibble around the edges for a while, back into, or put pieces together to discover them. Layers upon layers of deceit and cover are usually masking these types of operations. It's not like secret/classified programs are going to be up in flashing neon lights.

I try to keep an open mind about everything, and trust my own senses.
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Chem-trails Can be Used in a time of war ... They can outfit commercial Airliners that fly over enemy territory and release the salts and what not to either dry up any potential rain and create a drought situation or make it rain
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The last 10 years of spraying for West Nile virus prevention, I have noticed a huge decrease in butterflies in NY.
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The purpose? I dunno, but possibly..

1. weather modification
2. mass depopulation
3. mass inoculation
4. HAARP

I know when they spray in my area, my ears feel plugged, my throat is sore, and I generally feel flu-like symptoms.
You sound like a paranoid hypochondriac...

My attitude is more like:



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and i know how this is going to go.

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You sound like a paranoid hypochondriac...

My attitude is more like:



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Chemtrails are real...Dangerous!
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I will say this with certainty,

my mind is completely open to a lot of things which are branded as silly or conspiracy.

Once you realize that your reality has been controlled since Birth, you start to wake up.

BUT, a lot of people haven't reached that point yet.. it takes a lot to wake up and realize just what is really going on around you.. and HOW MANY times have you seen big business and big government fuck the regular population up the ass and laugh about it?

Well,

some conspiracy things may be true, some may not be.. but there are things I have personally witnessed in this lifetime of mine that make me realize I better keep an open mind.
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I was driving back from a country area yesterday and noticed about 10 or 11 staggered straight lines in the sky.

I wasn't sure what they were, however they seemed quite odd - the pattern they formed more than anything else. Also the fact they did not break apart in the hour or so they were in my sight.

Whether they are chemtrails or jet trails, I do not know.
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Christ fuck almighty....... it never stops with these idiots.
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Christ fuck almighty....... it never stops with these idiots.
Thanks for stopping by. ..It just wouldn't be the same if cykoe6 didn't drop by to take a shit in this thread.
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It's actually quite alarming that so many people posting here don't have a clue about Chemtrails. It's been long admitted.

The question is not "if" they are spraying toxic heavy metals into the sky, it's how to stop them.



http://www.mohavedailynews.com/artic...f210991897.txt



Published: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM MST

GOLDEN VALLEY ? In the wake of a number of Mohave County residents testing positive for heavy metal toxicity, a group has formed on Facebook to pursue a class-action lawsuit.

Called ?Chemtrail Geo-Engineering Lawsuit,? the approximately 300-member group is seeking more members who have tested positive for heavy metals in their blood and hair follicles, and those who have had tests conducted on rainwater and soil samples.

The group posted that a Bullhead City woman had just received test results showing the levels of barium in her blood were 28 times normal levels.

?It has become painfully apparent that our federal government, state government and environmental agencies remain unwilling to properly investigate what is going on with the health of people,? said Al DiCicco, of Golden Valley, who has been among those spearheading efforts to get answers as to why he and at least a couple dozen others have tested positive for high levels of the elements barium, aluminum, strontium and uranium.

The group discusses geo-engineering, which is a process used to manipulate the climate to counteract the effects of global warming from greenhouse gas emissions.

DiCicco also has been in contact with documentary filmmaker Michael J. Murphy, whose film ?What in the World are They Spraying?? explores the phenomenon of chemtrails. The film proposes that chemtrails are part of a geo-engineering program that uses jet planes to spray a solution into the atmosphere. The solution is said to contain barium, aluminum strontium and other elements, which are supposed to reflect sunlight and cool the planet.

The group is seeking a law firm to represent it in a class-action lawsuit. The Arizona Department of Environmental Quality, the Mohave County Department of Health, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, the Federal Aviation Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency and President Obama could be among the defendants.
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I love the way that HAARP has actually been designed in the shape of an old fashioned skeleton key; at least these psychopaths have a sense of humour


Chemtrails are an essential part of HAARP. It's about controlling the weather i.e. weather warfare. You can cause a drought in part of Africa, starve the people, then send the UN in with food and kick the old Muslim rulers out.

TPTB are very secretive about HAARP as it's a weapon that will be used to kill millions; it's vital that this all seems like Mother Nature/Climate Change.

The casual observer will quickly write off chemtrails as being contrails. However, what they will not so quickly write off (if they spend some time watching the sky) is the HAARP waves that form after chemtrail spraying. This is where the weather control begins



Some will still write it all off as being Mother Nature unless they see it on CNN, which they won't as then it would no longer be a covert weapon.

As well as altering the weather, HAARP is also capable of triggering and increasing the size of Earthquakes around fault lines where an Earthquake is soon due


We're dealing with psychopaths here who are actually immensely proud of what they're doing, they like to leave their signature on events. They use the date as their signature. This is their weakness. Look out for dates that are also emergency phone numbers.

911 New York - Tuesday 11th September 2001
311 Madrid - Thursday 11th March 2004
77 London - Thursday 7th July 2005
112 Haiti - Tuesday 12th January 2010
311 Japan - Friday 11th March 2011

911 is the US emergency helpline
311 is the US urgent helpline (non life threatening incidents)
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112 European Emergency Number
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