Say Hello to the American Police State. Conspiracy Theorists are starting to sound legit.

[vsex]

The Senate passed this bill last night. The Bill

If Obama doesn't Veto as he has said he would, what's left of the 6th Amendment is gone.

From Wired.com

"Here?s the best thing that can be said about the new detention powers the Senate has tucked into next year?s defense bill: They don?t force the military to detain American citizens indefinitely without a trial. They just let the military do that. And even though the leaders of the military and the spy community have said they want no such power, the Senate is poised to pass its bill as early as tonight.

There are still changes swirling around the Senate, but this looks like the basic shape of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act. Someone the government says is ?a member of, or part of, al-Qaida or an associated force? can be held in military custody ?without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.? Those hostilities are currently scheduled to end the Wednesday after never. The move would shut down criminal trials for terror suspects.

But far more dramatically, the detention mandate to use indefinite military detention in terrorism cases isn?t limited to foreigners. It?s confusing, because two different sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but in the judgment of the University of Texas? Robert Chesney ? a nonpartisan authority on military detention ? ?U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention authority.?

An amendment that would limit military detentions to people captured overseas failed on Thursday afternoon. The Senate soundly defeated a measure to strip out all the detention provisions on Tuesday.


So despite the Sixth Amendment?s guarantee of a right to trial, the Senate bill would let the government lock up any citizen it swears is a terrorist, without the burden of proving its case to an independent judge, and for the lifespan of an amorphous war that conceivably will never end. And because the Senate is using the bill that authorizes funding for the military as its vehicle for this dramatic constitutional claim, it?s pretty likely to pass."
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And, surprise, it passed!

Say good by to "Posse Comitatus"!

This Government is beyond corrupt now!

Still think all Conspiracy Theorists are crazy? The apathetic are starting to look crazier!

[DWB]

It should make people very uncomfortable when guys like Alex Jones and Glen Beck are right.

[vsex]

Originally Posted by DWB

It should make people very uncomfortable when guys like Alex Jones and Glen Beck are right.

Fo' Sho'!!!!

[epitome]

I'm just going to drop this in for the usual suspects that haven't gotten to this thread yet:

"You're crazy, the government would never do something like that!"

[wehateporn]

[ilnjscb]

No, it is over. The 100 year clock to end of republic has already started.

[porno jew]

i guess when the japanese were placed in internment camps the "conspiracy theorists were right" as well.

do your brain a favor and read some history books instead of watching youtube videos.

[vsex]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I've read the revision and it very cleverly worded POS:

1032 b plainly states:
(b) Applicabilhaity to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitutihaon of the United States.

"Requirement" - is vastly different then the "ability" to detain a citizen.

Exactly, That's what has everyone up in arms and rightfully so.

[vsex]

Originally Posted by porno jew

i guess when the japanese were placed in internment camps the "conspiracy theorists were right" as well.

do your brain a favor and read some history books instead of watching youtube videos.

Ahhh, you're back to prime form. Why don't you do your ignorance a favor and read the bill, then decide for yourself.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by vsex

Ahhh, you're back to prime form. Why don't you do your ignorance a favor and read the bill, then decide for yourself.

i know more about it than you. you should stick with looking at slo-mo videos of the twin towers falling.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by DWB

It should make people very uncomfortable when guys like Alex Jones and Glen Beck are right.

extremely.

[wehateporn]

You'll be ok as long as you haven't got more than 7 days food supply or any missing fingers

[vsex]

Originally Posted by porno jew

i know more about it than you. you should stick with looking at slo-mo videos of the twin towers falling.

Here's a reminder for you:



And with the way you behave most of the time, I think you're still at that point in your life.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by vsex

Here's a reminder for you:



And with the way you behave most of the time, I think you're still at that point in your life.

[Phoenix]

this is good for you...you only have to worry if you are a terrorist...lol

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