People Arrested for Dancing!

[DK]

I'm shopping this week for curtains for my future Fema camp detention cell.
I'm thinking eggshell color would go nice with concrete grey?

[ottopottomouse]

people arrested for being twats.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

people arrested for being twats.

You'll make a great officer at an American concentration camp. There will probably be job openings in the near future.

[DK]

Originally Posted by Failed

You'll make a great officer at an American concentration camp. There will probably be job openings in the near future.

[beerptrol]

It's not like they were warned!!!!!

[Phoenix]

the thing is, this wasn't some innocent act, they went there to get arrested to show people you can't dance there. They were successful.
Is it ridiculous? Of course...however it is a blip on the radar of what we need to be concerned about.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

It's not like they were warned!!!!!

Warned to stop dancing, in a public place! So if a cop comes up to you while you're out in public and warns you to stop walking, or stop standing, or stop speaking, or some other insane bullshit request, will you stop?

[2intense]

[Jman]

Wow, this is ridiculous. glad I live in Canada

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Failed

Warned to stop dancing, in a public place! So if a cop comes up to you while you're out in public and warns you to stop walking, or stop standing, or stop speaking, or some other insane bullshit request, will you stop?

hell yes! I know better than to argue with or disobey a cop, unless I'm trying to get arrested

[baddog]

Stop whining. They got precisely what they wanted. Even Phoenix sees that.

[CYF]

wasn't this already posted a couple months ago?

EDIT: This is from MAY.

[Failed]

I'm glad I was born a "whiner" and that there are "whiners" like the people in this video and the OWS who are willing to stand up for basic freedoms instead of keeping quiet like cowards.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Failed

I'm glad I was born a "whiner" and that there are "whiners" like the people in this video and the OWS who are willing to stand up for basic freedoms instead of keeping quiet like cowards.

Stop being stupid. They went there knowing the law. They knew they would get arrested for causing a public disturbance. But they went anyways to get arrested and film it. For what? Did it change anything? Did it change the law? Did it change public perception?

No. A bunch of idiots with nothing better to do. Thank GOD OWS came along, now we know where all the idiots will be at any given time.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Stop being stupid. They went there knowing the law. They knew they would get arrested for causing a public disturbance. But they went anyways to get arrested and film it. For what? Did it change anything? Did it change the law? Did it change public perception?

No. A bunch of idiots with nothing better to do. Thank GOD OWS came along, now we know where all the idiots will be at any given time.

The reason things like this anger me is because I wonder where the line will be drawn, if at all. They were dancing, not sitting down, not blocking sidewalks, not harassing anyone, just dancing. What's next, saying the wrong things, wearing the wrong clothes, being too poor, being a different color?

Don't you have kids, or younger members of your family? Don't you worry about their increasing loss of freedoms in this country?

The video has been posted several times, on many sites across the internet. To answer your question, yes, it did bring change. We're all here discussing it, and so are the people who have discussed it before. If it woke just one more person up to the slippery slope we're on in this country, then yes, it was worth it and change has been made.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Failed

The reason things like this anger me is because I wonder where the line will be drawn, if at all. They were dancing, not sitting down, not blocking sidewalks, not harassing anyone, just dancing. What's next, saying the wrong things, wearing the wrong clothes, being too poor, being a different color?

Don't you have kids, or younger members of your family? Don't you worry about their increasing loss of freedoms in this country?

The video has been posted several times, on many sites across the internet. To answer your question, yes, it did bring change. We're all here discussing it, and so are the people who have discussed it before. If it woke just one more person up to the slippery slope we're on in this country, then yes, it was worth it and change has been made.

You are delusional. Discussing how stupid it was to go and knowingly breaking a law to garner internet fame is NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. Does the law still stand? Yes. Causing a public disturbance at a National Monument, was that really needed to be done to enact change? Get off the fucking pipe.

But you'll say whatever you need too so you can win the argument, no matter how much you look like a fucktard doing so.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by Anthony

You are delusional. Discussing how stupid it was to go and knowingly breaking a law to garner internet fame is NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. Does the law still stand? Yes. Causing a public disturbance at a National Monument, was that really needed to be done to enact change? Get off the fucking pipe.

But you'll say whatever you need too so you can win the argument, no matter how much you look like a fucktard doing so.

Fox News 101:

After completing this course you will learn how to avoid questions, change topics, and hurl insults as a way to manage your new life in a world that has changed and passed you by, becoming too frightening to accept.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Failed

Fox News 101:

After completing this course you will learn how to avoid questions, change topics, and hurl insults as a way to manage your new life in a world that has changed and passed you by, becoming too frightening to accept.

Loser News 101

Using the Fox News Line as an attempt to bolster a losing argument where there is no other recourse.

[CYF]

Originally Posted by Anthony

You are delusional. Discussing how stupid it was to go and knowingly breaking a law to garner internet fame is NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. Does the law still stand? Yes. Causing a public disturbance at a National Monument, was that really needed to be done to enact change? Get off the fucking pipe.

But you'll say whatever you need too so you can win the argument, no matter how much you look like a fucktard doing so.

Those civil rights activists sure were fucking stupid for breaking a law to garner newspaper fame. Causing a public disturbance at diners and buses, was that really needed to be done to enact change?

[Anthony]

Got anymore Straw man you want your ass handed to you on?

I insult you after I state my facts, which you have zero retort too. Other than of course, an ad hominem? Fox News. So lame.

Failed = Failed.

[Lucy - CSC]

I am jealous of Americans freedoms.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CYF

Those civil rights activists sure were fucking stupid for breaking a law to garner newspaper fame. Causing a public disturbance at diners and buses, was that really needed to be done to enact change?

Not much better than Failed. Really, is this the extent of your debating skills?

The Civil Rights Movement - Equality for all Americans. Thank God for Rosa Parks.

Getting Arrested for causing a public disturbance at a National Monument after being warned... Thank God for... Ummm... What?

Oh yah, Internet Fame Video for idiots who think they are the Civil Guardians of the Interwebz.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Got anymore Straw man you want your ass handed to you on?

I insult you after I state my facts, which you have zero retort too. Other than of course, an ad hominem? Fox News. So lame.

Failed = Failed.

And you say I'm delusional

No answers, topic changes, insults. No answers, topic changes, insults. Keep that cycle going

[Anthony]

Goddamnit! the guberment is holding me back from dancing at national monumentz. that is some fucked up shit! Let's go dance my ninjas!

Bring some cameras so we can film this and put it on the interwebz and socially minded geeks can talk about how so cutting edge it is to fight the man, and stamp out tyranny!

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Failed

And you say I'm delusional

No answers, topic changes, insults. No answers, topic changes, insults. Keep that cycle going

did you need it re posted for you fucktard?

Originally Posted by Anthony

You are delusional. Discussing how stupid it was to go and knowingly breaking a law to garner internet fame is NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. Does the law still stand? Yes. Causing a public disturbance at a National Monument, was that really needed to be done to enact change? Get off the fucking pipe.

But you'll say whatever you need too so you can win the argument, no matter how much you look like a fucktard doing so.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Goddamnit! the guberment is holding me back from dancing at national monumentz. that is some fucked up shit! Let's go dance my ninjas!

Bring some cameras so we can film this and put it on the interwebz and socially minded geeks can talk about how so cutting edge it is to fight the man, and stamp out tyranny!

QUOTE for FAILED, who skips over posts he doesn't want to look at so he can be all "I'm right".

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

the thing is, this wasn't some innocent act, they went there to get arrested to show people you can't dance there. They were successful.
Is it ridiculous? Of course...however it is a blip on the radar of what we need to be concerned about.

QFT... It was of course ignored by those who want to look cutting edge OWS Style.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by Failed

The reason things like this anger me is because I wonder where the line will be drawn, if at all. They were dancing, not sitting down, not blocking sidewalks, not harassing anyone, just dancing. What's next, saying the wrong things, wearing the wrong clothes, being too poor, being a different color?

Don't you have kids, or younger members of your family? Don't you worry about their increasing loss of freedoms in this country?

The video has been posted several times, on many sites across the internet. To answer your question, yes, it did bring change. We're all here discussing it, and so are the people who have discussed it before. If it woke just one more person up to the slippery slope we're on in this country, then yes, it was worth it and change has been made.

I saw your post, and here is mine again, because it's you who obviously skipped over. You see, I was trying to get your opinions on the current state of affairs in this country from these questions. I tried to see if you had concern for our country continuing to head down a path of removing our rights and freedoms. As was just done with the defense bill Obama signed.

It's really my fault though, for believing you had the capacity to do anything but continue the cycle I posted. I apologize!

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Failed

I saw your post, and here is mine again, because it's you who obviously skipped over. You see, I was trying to get your opinions on the current state of affairs in this country from these questions. I tried to see if you had concern for our country continuing to head down a path of removing our rights and freedoms. As was just done with the defense bill Obama signed.

It's really my fault though, for believing you had the capacity to do anything but continue the cycle I posted. I apologize!

Your questions are nothing but clear cut fabrications you've decided to throw out as a Red Herring to get away from my original argument.

The broke the law knowingly. To show what? Change what? That you can't answer.

Seriously, who taught you how to debate?

[CYF]

Originally Posted by Anthony

The broke the law knowingly. To show what?

Maybe to show how fucking stupid it is to arrest peaceful, silent dancers at the monument for a president who was in favor of freedom? Do you seriously need someone to point that out to you??

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CYF

Maybe to show how fucking stupid it is to arrest peaceful, silent dancers at the monument for a president who was in favor of freedom? Do you seriously need someone to point that out to you??

That makes total sense! Goddammit! You are right! There should be silent dancing at all the National Monuments, that will set things right in America! My rights have been trod upon by the man, we need to change this shit NOW!

Are you really that dumb? This was made for internet fame, and you think it was done to change the laws on dancing at national monuments? Really?

A decade on here, I should already be used to how stupid people are.

[GFED]

No dancing allowed? Really? That's a stupid fucking law. I'm glad there are people out there to speak out against it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

gotta love the sheeple who say shit like "they were warned"..

the law wasn't meant to stop dancing, people who enforce and obey idiotic laws are idiots. Jefferson told us to disobey unjust laws. He didn't tell us to lobby or vote , he told us not to obey unjust laws. The monument is there to celebrate his wisdom as a founding father. Arresting people for dancing is like spitting on america as far as i am concerned. Anyone who supports it is doing the same.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Anthony

That makes total sense! Goddammit! You are right! There should be silent dancing at all the National Monuments, that will set things right in America! My rights have been trod upon by the man, we need to change this shit NOW!

Are you really that dumb? This was made for internet fame, and you think it was done to change the laws on dancing at national monuments? Really?

A decade on here, I should already be used to how stupid people are.

Not only do I totally agree with every single one of your points, but there is some serious synergy going on with the flashing Nalem avatar. I can't stop laughing. So fucking funny.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Anthony

you think it was done to change the laws on dancing at national monuments? Really?

You can't go to court and say i don't like this law please change it.. you have to fight it by being charged and brought to court. That was the purpose..

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You can't go to court and say i don't like this law please change it.. you have to fight it by being charged and brought to court. That was the purpose..

Smokey, I've always enjoyed reading your posts, even though sometimes I disagree with them. Both you and I know that this could have been brought to court without breaking the law. I would hazard a guess that these "Civic Minded" young adults came up with this idea while smoking BC's Finest and brainstorming. Because as of May, absolutely NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, LAW CONTESTED, or anything been changed to that law due to this video. Nothing.

[baryl]

We need Kevin Bacon to move into this town.

[Lucy - CSC]

A legal challenge against the law would not bring the exposure to it that this has.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

A legal challenge against the law would not bring the exposure to it that this has.

And the exposure this video has made has done what? Changed the law? Done anything? What about that, why did you leave out those points I made? Obviously because you have nothing for it.

[CYF]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Because as of May, absolutely NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, LAW CONTESTED, or anything been changed to that law due to this video. Nothing.

The government dropped their charges. Can't exactly argue against the law in court when the court drops your charges.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Smokey, I've always enjoyed reading your posts, even though sometimes I disagree with them. Both you and I know that this could have been brought to court without breaking the law. I would hazard a guess that these "Civic Minded" young adults came up with this idea while smoking BC's Finest and brainstorming. Because as of May, absolutely NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, LAW CONTESTED, or anything been changed to that law due to this video. Nothing.

i would find it hard to believe anyone could get a supreme court case heard in 7 months..

how exactly do you fight a bad law without breaking it ? i am not a legal expert by any stretch so i really have no idea, but i am pretty sure you have to break the law to have a case heard..

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CYF

The government dropped their charges. Can't exactly argue against the law in court when the court drops your charges.

And it brings me back to my point one.

Nothing this video has done has changed the law, repealed the law, or made anyone else think twice about this after a day.

Don't mind me, I'm using this thread as a vehicle to make 10k.

So keep arguing with me.

[geedub]

Originally Posted by Failed

Warned to stop dancing, in a public place! So if a cop comes up to you while you're out in public and warns you to stop walking, or stop standing, or stop speaking, or some other insane bullshit request, will you stop?

Hardly dancing, more like making a scene, there are plenty of public places where such activities (making a scene, not "dancing") aren't cool.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i would find it hard to believe anyone could get a supreme court case heard in 7 months..

how exactly do you fight a bad law without breaking it ? i am not a legal expert by any stretch so i really have no idea, but i am pretty sure you have to break the law to have a case heard..

7 months, 7 years. With what we are going through right now, slow dancing at a national monument is the least of our worries.

NDAA is on the President's Desk right now. I've been on a online campaign to get the word out as there is a black out on the news about it.

If you really care about our Country's future, forget this bullshit about dancing, fill this out, and send it. Share it with everyone.

https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocac...AAveto_fixNDAA

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Anthony

And it brings me back to my point one.

Nothing this video has done has changed the law.

i think you missed the fact they dropped the charges.. they dropped the charges because they likely knew if it went the distance they would find the law unconstitutional .

You cant simply go to court and ask them to change a law.. You must break a law to challenge its validity.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think you missed the fact they dropped the charges.. they dropped the charges because they likely knew if it went the distance they would find the law unconstitutional .

You cant simply go to court and ask them to change a law.. You must break a law to challenge its validity.

One way of looking at it, or maybe the dropped the charges because it's a waste of time and taxpayer money. We need to spend that money on buying upgrades for planes that the Air Force doesn't need.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Anthony

7 months, 7 years. With what we are going through right now, slow dancing at a national monument is the least of our worries.

it all starts somewhere. maybe we are where we are because we stopped caring and have slowly let our constitution get trampled piece by piece

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

it all starts somewhere. maybe we are where we are because we stopped caring and have slowly let our constitution get trampled piece by piece

If we are laying blame, then let's start with Abraham Lincoln, and what we let him do with our Constitution.

[Mr Pheer]

There is a time and place for everything.

Obviously that was not the place for dancing or the time to be acting like an immature douche.

[Rochard]

All kidding aside, this is some bullshit.

It's not that dancing is illegal, it's more about disturbing the peace. You can't go into a local restaurant where I'm eating dinner and start dancing or singing. Along the same lines, if I was drop thousands of dollars in plane fare and hotels to go to visit monuments in Washington DC only to have my afternoon ruined by stupid kids making a scene, I'd be pretty pissed to.

And these dumb kids will understand this more twenty years from now when they have kids of their own, they shell out a ton of money to spend a day at a museum or monument on vacation, only to have their day ruined by a bunch of stupid kids. I remember once at the Grand Canyon a group of four or five teens all bought ice creams cones, and decided to have a ice cream fight in the middle of the path. It was a five minute scene, and then I had to try to explain to my kid what was happening. I'm pretty easy going (and I've acted like an asshole more than once in Vegas myself), but there's a time and a place for that.