Bush, Blair Found Guilty of War Crimes

[Solace]

Bush, Blair Found Guilty of War Crimes

By Press TV

November 25, 2011 --- A War Crimes Tribunal in Malaysia has found former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair guilty of war crimes for their roles in the Iraq war.



The five-panel Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal decided that Bush and Blair committed genocide and crimes against humanity by leading the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a Press TV correspondent reported on Tuesday.

In 2003, the US and Britain invaded Iraq in blatant violation of international law and under the pretext of finding weapons of mass destruction allegedly stockpiled by former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

The Malaysian tribunal judges ruled that the decision to wage war against Iraq by the two former heads of government was a flagrant abuse of law and an act of aggression that led to large-scale massacres of the Iraqi people.


Bombings and other forms of violence became commonplace in Iraq shortly after the US-led invasion of the country.

In their ruling, the tribunal judges also stated that the US, under the leadership of Bush, fabricated documents to make it appear that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

However, the world later learned that the former Iraqi regime did not possess WMDs and that the US and British leaders knew this all along.

Over one million Iraqis were killed during the invasion, according to the California-based investigative organization Project Censored.

The judges also said the court findings should be provided to signatories to the Rome Statute, which established the International Criminal Court, and added that the names of Bush and Blair should be listed on a war crimes register.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle29815.htm

[candyflip]

Yeah, and?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Yeah, and?

Maybe some Gadaffi treatment ?

[Solace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Yeah, and?

International precedent, and yeah

[candyflip]

How much you want to bet that NOTHING EVER HAPPENS to either of them?

[Solace]

Define nothing

[Solace]

Define nothing

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Solace

Define nothing

Nothing will happen to them as a direct result of this ruling.

Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Nothing.

[IllTestYourGirls]

And what about the war crimes being committed by Obama now? Not only because he continued the crimes of Bush in Iraq, but what he has done in Pakistan and Libya. Do they plan on putting those on trial too?

[Lucy - CSC]

They will actually now not be able to go to a few countries because of it. Henry Kissenger has the same applied to him. If they did go they would face arrest and in theory America could do nothing about it.

[Lucy - CSC]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

And what about the war crimes being committed by Obama now? Not only because he continued the crimes of Bush in Iraq, but what he has done in Pakistan and Libya. Do they plan on putting those on trial too?

Obama is a cool dude and is 'change' so he gets away with it. Just like how he lied to get into office, continued lying and still lies.

We have the illusion of democracy where as in reality we have a bunch of bought and paid for arseholes.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

They will actually now not be able to go to a few countries because of it. Henry Kissenger has the same applied to him. If they did go they would face arrest and in theory America could do nothing about it.

In theory anyone trying to touch/arrest Bush will first have to go thru secret service agents.

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[uno]

WTF jurisdiction does a malaysian court have? If something like that happens in The Hague, let me know.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Nothing will happen to them as a direct result of this ruling.

Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Nothing.

Define Zero!

Your it

[Solace]

don't expect to have much of a conversation with a fool betting on immorality,
even here candyflip.

[Dcat]

Originally Posted by uno

WTF jurisdiction does a malaysian court have? If something like that happens in The Hague, let me know.

It will NEVER happen because NATO controls The Hague (ICTY).

[12clicks]

The court also ruled that the earth is still flat.

[Solace]

Your implying they are somehow backwards is that it 12 clicks?
You are basing that on what exactly, your smelly vagina?

[2MuchMark]

They should have nailed Karl Rove and Dick Cheney while they were at it.

[Dcat]

We can't even arrest or keep these war criminals out of Canada.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19767824/T...ed-From-Canada


LAW is writing to request that G. W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Tony Blair each be barred from
entering Canada in accordance with the inadmissibility provisions of the Immigration and Refugee
Protection Act (IRPA) provisions that bar entry to foreign nationals suspected of human or
international rights violations.

Credible Accusations: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Tony Blair have each been accused
by knowledgeable groups and individuals throughout the world of complicity in war crimes, crimes
against humanity and other gross human rights abuses. Accusation of war crimes and crimes against
humanity carried out by the Bush administration under the supervision and direction of G.W. Bush
as President and Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces and Dick Cheney as Vice-President
are well documented. For example, Professor Michael Haas, in his book, George W. Bush, War
Criminal? The Bush Administration's Liability for 269 War Crimes, identifies and documents
evidence of 269 war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the U.S. under the direction
and supervision of Bush and Cheney. Tony Blair has been credibly accused of authorizing, directing
or failing to prevent, war crimes and crimes against humanity committed while he was prime
minister during the invasion and occupation of Iraq. None of these accusations have been dismissed
or confirmed by a court of law. However, the credible inculpatory evidence supporting the
accusations is overwhelming and there does not appear to be any credible exculpatory evidence
refuting the accusations.

Reliable Evidence: Evidence that is part of the public record far exceeds the ?reasonable grounds?
required by the inadmissibility sections of the IRPA. That torture and other criminal treatment was
used by U.S. officials on non-Americans imprisoned in Guantánamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and
other offshore U.S. prisons is no longer open to question. In our letter of February 23, 2009 we
advised you of some recent reports.[5] These reports indicate that Bush and Cheney authorized and
directed and failed to prevent torture and other prohibited treatment of prisoners in Guantánamo
Bay, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other U.S. controlled offshore prisons. Evidence now available
establishes that Canadian citizen Omar Khadr is one of the victims of those criminal acts, prohibited
by CAT and by Canadian law. Additional torture memos released by the Obama administration
indicate that Bush and Cheney approved for use on prisoners held in these offshore prisons, sleep
deprivation (used on Khadr), water boarding (simulated drowning) and other treatments prohibited
by international and Canadian law. Records and documents released to date indicate that that Blair
and Bush knowingly planned and carried out the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq that has
resulted in the death, injury and displacement of millions of people.


Court Decisions: Courts in Canada and the U.S. have confirmed the involvement of the Bush
administration in war crimes. The U.S. Supreme Court in Rasul v. Bush 542 U.S. 455 (2004) ruled
that Bush?s 13 November 2001 order[8] depriving Guantánamo Bay prisoners of habeas corpus was
unlawful under both U.S. and international law. Again in 2006 the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdan v
Rumsfeld, 126 S.Ct. 2749 (2006) ruled that the Guantánamo Bay regime created by that same 13
November 2001 order violates the Geneva Convention fair trial rights. Under international (Geneva
Conventions) and Canadian (Crimes against Humanity and War Crimes Act and the Geneva
Conventions Act) depriving a prisoner of a fair trial is a war crime.

The Supreme Court of Canada in Canada (Justice) v. Khadr, 2008 SCC 28, confirmed that the Bush
administration?s treatment of prisoners in Guantánamo Bay violated the Geneva Conventions,
Canada?s domestic law and Canada?s international law obligations. The Federal Court of Canada in
Khadr v. the Prime Minister et al, 2009 FC 405, ruled that the U.S. treatment, of Omar Khadr in
Guantánamo Bay and the use of sleep deprivation (moving Khadr every three hours for a period of
three weeks to ?soften? him up for interrogation by Canadian officials) violated CAT and that
Khadr?s detention was illegal under international law.

Canadian law: As observed by UN High Commissioner of Human Rights Navi Pillay all states are
responsible for enforcing international humanitarian law by ensuring that violators are prosecuted
and held accountable. Canada, as a signatory to CAT, the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Statute
for an International Criminal Court, has a legal duty to take effective measures to prevent and punish
war crimes and crimes against humanity (torture is both) wherever such crimes occur, no matter
what the nationality of the perpetrator(s) or victim(s). The Geneva Conventions and CAT impose a
mandatory duty to prosecute people suspected of, in the case of CAT, torture and in the case of the
Geneva Conventions, war crimes and crimes against humanity, once they enter Canada.

In order to fulfill these duties Canada has passed laws to prevent people suspected of war crimes and
crimes against humanity from entering Canada for any purpose. Canada has also made war crimes
and crimes against humanity--committed anywhere in the world, against and by any person(s)--
crimes under Canadian law. Canada?s duty to prosecute these crimes is triggered when the victim is
a Canadian citizen?e.g. Omar Khadr--or the suspected offender enters Canada.

Reports of visits to Canada by Bush, Cheney and Blair coupled with evidence of their involvement
in war crimes and crimes against humanity trigger these legal duties. Unless the Attorney General of
Canada plans to initiate prosecutions once each enters Canada, Canada?s legal duty is to ensure that
Bush, Cheney and Blair are not allowed to enter Canada. The duty to direct, supervise and carry out
all the steps necessary to ensure this result rests with the Prime Minister, the Attorney General of
Canada and with the Ministers of Immigration and Public Safety. The Minister of Foreign Affairs is
included as a recipient of this letter in the event that he elects, as a courtesy, to advise G.W. Bush,
Dick Cheney and Tony Blair of their inadmissibility as was done in the case of British MP George
Galloway. While the latter decision is discretionary, taking the steps necessary to prevent entry is
required by law. The law does not allow an option of suspending the law to allow, even temporary,
immunity to former heads of states or political colleagues who stand credibly accused of war crimes,
crimes against humanity of other gross human rights violations. Indeed, the rule of law forbids such
preferential treatment.

Official Investigations of War Crimes: There are several ongoing official investigations of the
aforementioned accusations against the Bush and Blair administrations of crimes committed during
extra-legal wars. Three examples are: in the U.K., the Chilcot Inquiry; in the U.S., Attorney General
Eric Holder has ordered an investigation into ?whether or not federal laws were violated in
connection with the interrogation of specific detainees at overseas locations?; in the Hague, the
International Criminal Court is conducting preliminary investigations of accusations of war crimes
and crimes against humanity committed in Afghanistan.

[Solace]

If you people advocating for the freedom of Blair and Bush knew anything,

you would be rolling on the floor in constant orgasm over the fact

Malaysia is conservative to the point of killing off all drug users/sellers.

Really go fuck off and die ignoramuses. This is a valid event. Welcome to it.

[Dcat]

Conclusion: LAW demands that the government of Canada immediately take all necessary steps:

1. To advise George W. Bush, former president of the U.S. and Dick Cheney, former
vice-president and Tony Blair, former prime minister of the U.K. that they are
inadmissible to Canada, at least until the above mentioned official investigations have
been completed, made public and exonerated each of them; and,2. To take all steps necessary to ensure that G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Tony Blair are denied entry to Canada as required by both Canadian law and Canada?s international law obligations; and,

3. If any one of G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney or Tony Blair is not advised of his
inadmissibility or, being advised, presents himself for entry, to treat this letter and the
sources referred to, as a report under s. 44. (1) of the IRPA and to refer the matter to the
Immigration Division for an admissibility hearing; and,

4. To take the steps necessary to have the George W. Bush administration, between
October 2001 and November 2008 designated as a ?government that?has engaged in
systematic or gross human rights violations, or a war crime or a crime against humanity
within the meaning of subsections 6(3) to (5) of the Crimes Against Humanity and War
Crimes Act, pursuant to s. 35(1)(b) of the IRPA.

We remind you of your government?s oft repeated statement, ?The most effective measure to ensure
that Canada is not a safe haven for suspected perpetrators of war crimes, crimes against humanity
and genocide is their early detection and subsequent prevention of entry into Canada.?
We are ready to provide such additional information as you may require, including excerpts from the
statutes and international instruments referred to.

We request an immediate reply and prompt action by the Prime Minister, Minister of Immigration,
Attorney General of Canada, Minister of Public Safety and by the Canadian Border Services Agency
to comply with Canadian law and Canada?s international law obligations and to bar entry to Canada
by G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Tony Blair on the grounds of their suspected involvement,
while heads of state, in authorizing, directing, supervising and failing to prevent war crimes and
crimes against humanity.


Sincerely,
Gail Davidson, Lawyers against the War
www.StopWar.ca

Derrick O?Keefe, Editor,w ww.Rabb le.ca

Copies to:
Leader Jack Layton-NDP
Joe Comartin, Justice Critic Paul Dewar, Foreign Affairs Critic Don Davies, Critic on Immigration
& Public Safety Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff Bob Rae, Foreign Affairs Critic Dominic Leblanc,
Justice Critic
Maurizio Bevilacqua, Immigration Critic Gilles Duceppe, Leader of the Bloc Québécois Real
Ménard, Justice et Procureur Général Serge Ménard, Sécurité Publique Thierry St-Cyr, Citoyenneté
& Immigration Paul Crete, Affaires Etrangères
Lawyers Against the War (LAW) is a Canada-based committee of jurists and others who oppose war and advocate for adherence to international humanitarian law and against impunity for violators.

Contacts:
Gail Davidson, Tel: 604 738 0338; Fax: 604 736 1175, Email:law @ portal.ca

[Solace]

This vBulletin is such fucking garbage

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Solace

If you people advocating for the freedom of Blair and Bush knew anything,

you would be rolling on the floor in constant orgasm over the fact

Malaysia is conservative to the point of killing off all drug users/sellers.

Really go fuck off and die ignoramuses. This is a valid event. Welcome to it.

Can anyone translate this ......

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[Solace]

[Solace]

Apparently the nations former prime minister does "symbolic" war crime trials, against real War Criminals! Isn't that Right?

[Solace]

The symbolic Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Can anyone translate this ......

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He is mumbling something about malaysian drug dealers jizzing all over the floor.

[Solace]

Sure isn't the Land of the Free thinking is it now L-Pink.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by bushwacker

He is mumbling something about malaysian drug dealers jizzing all over the floor.

Here you go chum

http://www.agc.gov.my/Akta/Vol.%205/Act%20234.pdf

[Solace]

Originally Posted by **********

They should have nailed Karl Rove and Dick Cheney while they were at it.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Can anyone translate this ......

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Conservative country Malaysia has war crimes tribunal which finds neo-cons Bush and Blair guilty of war crimes.

kind o' funny.


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[brassmonkey]

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Solace

Sure isn't the Land of the Free thinking is it now L-Pink.

What are you talking about?

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[Solace]

Originally Posted by Caligari

Conservative country Malaysia has war crimes tribunal which finds neo-cons Bush and Blair guilty of war crimes.

kind o' funny.


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What if it were serious?

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Solace

What if it were serious?

isn't it?

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[Solace]

The policies of these two are so bad that they are encroaching on Malaysians. Just a little.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Caligari

Conservative country Malaysia has war crimes tribunal which finds neo-cons Bush and Blair guilty of war crimes.

kind o' funny.


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That was also the point, the hypocrites make it happen.

[WarChild]

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by candyflip

How much you want to bet that NOTHING EVER HAPPENS to either of them?

Bush is already dodging one country that was going to arrest him on arrival.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

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[Solace]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

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You have got the idea now

[DVTimes]

[LiveDose]

Good let them send some officers of their court come to the US & Great Britain and enforce the ruling. LOL I want to see that.

[Si]

Originally Posted by Solace

Define Zero!

Your it

You're dumb.

[directfiesta]

If they both could be taken in a " rendition " operation ( you know, the legal kidnapping of suspected terrorist on foreign land and tortured in another foreign country ) , we could have their first hand impression on enhanced interrogation ...

[V_RocKs]

50 world leaders that won't be traveling to Malaysia.

[barcodes]

Originally Posted by Solace

Define nothing

[DaddyHalbucks]