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Old 01-31-2012, 06:15 AM   #1
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:stop Do you believe in God?

Why or why not? Just curious. I think I had a moment last night. Discuss.
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Translation: "Do you believe in God" = "Are you stupid?"
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Translation: "Do you believe in God" = "Are you stupid?"
This thread wasn't intended to bash anybody for their beliefs. Go back to your shitty board dude. Nobody likes you here anyways.
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I do not believe. Because I'm not stupid.
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This thread wasn't intended to bash anybody for their beliefs. Go back to your shitty board dude. Nobody likes you here anyways.
I wouldn't call it bashing, or being mean. It's just the simple truth.
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Why or why not? Just curious. I think I had a moment last night. Discuss.
what do you apply the term 'god' too?
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This thread wasn't intended to bash anybody for their beliefs.
I'm not bashing anyone. But anyone with religious beliefs of any kind must be ignoring science. By doing so they're ignorant, at best. I'd call most of them stupid though, but I'll admit that I have met religious people who are far from stupid.

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If there is a God he, she, it is a shitty being that loves killing and harming people. The evidence is in the Bible.

He created the Great Flood. His reasoning was he made man flawed and this developed into something that wasn't doing as it should. Except for Moses and his family. So he drowned everything so they and 2 of every kind could start again. Not sure what he had against all the animals and babes, but no one has ever mentioned that part.

He then decided the people of Sodom and Gomorrah were also not doing as he wanted, so destroyed the places, everything got wiped out. Not sure what he had against all the animals and babes, but no one has ever mentioned that part.

Then there were the plagues in Egypt. Again those bloody Egyptians were not doing as they should and he caused the plagues, ending with the death of te first born son. Some must of been innocent babes, but who cares when you're God and trying to make a point? Not sure what he had against all the animals and babes, but no one has ever mentioned that part.

Then he led them into the desert and helped them build a WMD. Nice of him wasn't it?

Then he gave them someone else's land and told them to kill anyone who tried to hang onto what they already had. These were Jews who now complain about others trying to hang onto what they have.

So the destruction continued in Jericho, he cased the Walls to come tumbling down so the Israelite army could go int the city and kill everyone, children and animals as well. On his orders. Not sure what he had against all the animals and babes, but no one has ever mentioned that part.

And so it goes on. It seems so many religious people stand up and tell us to go kill someone, because that's what God wants. Not just Christians, it's most religions. The Catholics are just the the ones we read so much about because the Europeans have been the power house of the World for 2 Millennium.

Of course when God gives his orders to the chosen few, it usually ends up with the chosen few ending up more powerful and richer. And people and babies dying. Not sure what he had against all the babes, but no one has ever mentioned that part.

Or the whole thing is bullshit.
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nope ... what has religion brought us so far? WAR ... and nothing else ... religion is THE source of PURE EVIL and so i HATE religion and disregard "believers" ... "god" is for the confessing non-knowing ...
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LOL. What science would that be? I have multiple degrees in the life sciences and find it interesting that the story of creation jives with the commonly accepted theories of the big bang and evolution.
I'll kindly pass on this discussion. It has been my experience that discussing science with religious people leads into arguments defying logic and peer-reviewed scientific results, thus turning into a huge waste of time for all parties involved.
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Do you believe that Billy Graham's conception or definition of "God" is the only possible one, or do you believe that the force behind it all could be understood and described in very different ways by different people?

I believe that many of the TV preachers are wrong - God, as they describe Him, doesn't exist. Also, I know that I regularly experience a force, an energy, related to timeless principles like honesty and love. I call that force "God".

Would you date Mike Tyson? If not, does that mean you don't believe in dating? That would be silly. Yet, many people go from "I don't believe everything my mom said about her beliefs about God" to "therefore there must not be any power beyond my own little self". That's quite a jump, but a common one.

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Do you believe that Billy Graham's conception or definition of "God" is the only possible one, or do you believe that the force behind it all could be understood and described in very different ways by different people?

I believe that many of the TV preachers are wrong - God, as they describe Him, doesn't exist. Also, I know that I regularly experience a force, an energy, related to timeless principles like honesty and love. I call that force "God".

Would you date Mike Tyson? If not, does that mean you don't believe in dating? That would be silly. Yet, many people go from "I don't believe everything my mom said about her beliefs about God" to "therefore there must not be any power beyond my own little self". That's quite a jump, but a common one.
I stopped reading at Billy Graham...
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The graph shown above relates the arithmetic mean IQ measured in various country's populations, to the fraction of each country's population that believes religion is very important.

The green diamonds represent individual countries; the yellow line is a linear regression (y = mx + b), calculated by the least squares method. The United States data point is circled in red. TK Solver was used to create the graph from the data listed in the table below:

The data shown above begs the question: what would be revealed by a survey that correlated IQ and religiosity on an individual basis? Within a given population, is religion more important to persons of high intelligence, or low intelligence?


The religious attitude data is from a poll that was part of the Pew Global Attitudes Project.

The question wording used in the poll was as follows:

How important is religion in your life—very important, somewhat important, not too important, or not at all important?

The report available online only lists the percentage that said religion was 'very important'. The data from the report is listed below:

Religion Very Important

North America:
U.S. 59 %
Canada 30 %

West Europe:
Great Britain 33 %
Italy 27 %
Germany 21 %
France 11 %

East Europe:
Poland 36 %
Ukraine 35 %
Slovakia 29 %
Russia 14 %
Bulgaria 13 %
Czech 11 %

Conflict Area:
Pakistan 91 %
Turkey 65 %
Uzbekistan 35 %

Latin America:
Guatemala 80 %
Brazil 77 %
Honduras 72 %
Peru 69 %
Bolivia 66 %
Venezuela 61 %
Mexico 57 %
Argentina 39 %

Asia:
Indonesia 95 %
India 92 %
Philipines 88 %
Bangladesh 88 %
Korea 25 %
Vietnam 24 %
Japan 12 %

Africa:
Senegal 97 %
Nigeria 92 %
Ivory Coast 91 %
Mali 90 %
South Africa 87 %
Kenya 85 %
Uganda 85 %
Ghana 84 %
Tanzania 83 %
Angola 80 %
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God is the Santa for adults.

For many, this is true. Many others grow up and develop an adult understanding of who Saint Nick really was, and who or what God really is. These people can separate their five year old understanding from their adult understanding in both cases.

Few, upon learning that there are no flying reindeer, assume that means a mature understanding of Saint Nick is impossible. Yet, they decide that because their childish understanding of God was, well, childish, their must not be any adult understanding of the concept. Surely there is nothing they can learn. Whatever their understanding was at age five must be the only understanding they can ever have. How peculiar.

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I love how arrogant people can be to just dismiss the idea that there might be a first cause behind the universe outright. Yeah, I get why people make fun of the bible with talking snakes and men living inside fish in it. I'm sympathetic to that, but at the same time, given the universe that we're living in, it's very persuasive, the idea that there is some kind of first cause that's running things. It might not be the god of Westboro Baptist church, it might not be the god of al-qaeda, and it might not be the god of Abraham, but something could very well be running things. The order of the universe as we see it, the interlocking nature, and the way things work together, are persuasive of the idea that there may be some overarching first cause.
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I'll kindly pass on this discussion. It has been my experience that discussing science with religious people leads into arguments defying logic and peer-reviewed scientific results, thus turning into a huge waste of time for all parties involved.
Scientists don't know shit. What is human logic in the grand scheme of things?
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could we in fact be living in the matrix?
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Scientists don't know shit. What is human logic in the grand scheme of things?
See what I mean?
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