Advice on Offering Adult Design Services - GoFuckYourself.com

LandingPower · 02-08-2012, 10:08 AM

I've been designing for a long time, mainly for affiliate marketers. I'm looking to expand and get some work in the adult field since I feel like it's similar to what I'm used to. Does anyone have any advice in terms of how I should go about getting work? I know this is a different world and I'm new, so I'm open to any advice.

gimme-website · 02-08-2012, 11:45 AM

Your in the right place to find work. There's plenty to go round for all levels dispite the doom and gloom you here from people here.

How to get your first gigs..
The early bird catches the worm so they say, be ready like a hawk to jump in any job posts you like. When i started I would get gigs simply by being the first to jump on a thread and someones ICQ.

You need to find someone to give you a break.. then you can prove yourself in both design skills and reliability ect and expand your folio. That will happen if your keen enough.

What are your expectations though? What do you think a good adult designer makes $$$??

Wilsy · 02-08-2012, 11:58 AM

Some more advice is to put some contact info and details about what you offer in you sig so people know how to get hold of you and what you do..

gimme-website · 02-08-2012, 12:03 PM

...and to come back and chew the shit with us for 10 mins to get your post count up

Milfer · 02-08-2012, 12:13 PM

be careful though, you are likely to jerk more often in adult

Serge Litehead · 02-08-2012, 01:12 PM

portfolio + signature + some magic = success

LandingPower · 02-08-2012, 01:13 PM

lots of good info here, I don't have a sig yet cause I'm trying to get my post count up and I don't wanna look like some prick that's spamming. like I said I'm used to doing stuff for affiliate marketers but it does seem like there's a lot of work to go around.

I'm not really sure what the common rates are. lately I've been seeing that a lot of people in the affiliate marketing world expect good designs for Indian wages which just can't happen. does anyone have any input on this?

thanks again for the help so far, greatly appreciated.

2MuchMark · 02-08-2012, 01:19 PM

For small projects, demand 50% down payment, and the rest on completion.

For larger projects, demand 33% + 33% after a milestone is reached and the final 33% upon completion.

Charge per hour and avoid quoting flat rate. Too often people come up with new ideas half way through a project that ads hours or days to a project. If you must stick to flat rate, make sure the project is carefully detailed in an email and agreed to first, noting that any changes cost extra.

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We had a client once made up of 2 partners. They both knew what they wanted color wise but could not agree on anything else. One had a wide-screen 2560x1440 monitor while the other had an old 800x600 monitor. Both complained constantly to us and to each other about how it should look, with neither one of them willing to understand that their monitors were so different. It was a sickening experience, especially because we were suckered into a flat-rate job. NEVER again.

LandingPower · 02-08-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

For small projects, demand 50% down payment, and the rest on completion.

For larger projects, demand 33% + 33% after a milestone is reached and the final 33% upon completion.

Charge per hour and avoid quoting flat rate. Too often people come up with new ideas half way through a project that ads hours or days to a project. If you must stick to flat rate, make sure the project is carefully detailed in an email and agreed to first, noting that any changes cost extra.

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We had a client once made up of 2 partners. They both knew what they wanted color wise but could not agree on anything else. One had a wide-screen 2560x1440 monitor while the other had an old 800x600 monitor. Both complained constantly to us and to each other about how it should look, with neither one of them willing to understand that their monitors were so different. It was a sickening experience, especially because we were suckered into a flat-rate job. NEVER again.

yeah i've definitely been there before. right now i'm doing flat rate and i always stress how important it is to have examples and the exact info in order for everything to go smoothly. how do you charge hourly and actually convince them that's how long you worked? that's why i never did it like that. i personally wouldn't believe someone unless i knew them personally.

Eric · 02-08-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

For small projects, demand 50% down payment, and the rest on completion.

For larger projects, demand 33% + 33% after a milestone is reached and the final 33% upon completion.

Charge per hour and avoid quoting flat rate. Too often people come up with new ideas half way through a project that ads hours or days to a project. If you must stick to flat rate, make sure the project is carefully detailed in an email and agreed to first, noting that any changes cost extra.

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We had a client once made up of 2 partners. They both knew what they wanted color wise but could not agree on anything else. One had a wide-screen 2560x1440 monitor while the other had an old 800x600 monitor. Both complained constantly to us and to each other about how it should look, with neither one of them willing to understand that their monitors were so different. It was a sickening experience, especially because we were suckered into a flat-rate job. NEVER again.

The above is great advice. One way you can use Flat Rate pricing and avoid some of the issues above is to put in your contract for the project X number of revisions. This has worked very well with many of the projects that I have done.

LandingPower · 02-08-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

The above is great advice. One way you can use Flat Rate pricing and avoid some of the issues above is to put in your contract for the project X number of revisions. This has worked very well with many of the projects that I have done.

yeah I offer a set amount of 3 revisions. people have been under the impression that a "revision" counts as them changing their mind or "hey let's see what this looks like this way".

how should I go about finding work on this board? just post an ad?

v4 media · 02-08-2012, 02:13 PM

When I started I did some free work.
Few Banners, few galleries. Just to get a small portfolio together, then went from there.

LandingPower · 02-08-2012, 03:14 PM

is it worthless that i have a non-adult portfolio? do you guys feel that adult design is much more different where i'd need to have items before I can try to get work?

fatfoo · 02-08-2012, 03:24 PM

Find a way to compete with the other designers. Everyone is going to argue about who is better. Point out the reasons why your design services could be better than someone else. Think about factors like lower price, higher quality, faster service and better customer support.

gimme-website · 02-08-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LandingPower

yeah i've definitely been there before. right now i'm doing flat rate and i always stress how important it is to have examples and the exact info in order for everything to go smoothly. how do you charge hourly and actually convince them that's how long you worked? that's why i never did it like that. i personally wouldn't believe someone unless i knew them personally.

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02-08-2012, 10:08 AM	#1
LandingPower Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 49	Advice on Offering Adult Design Services I've been designing for a long time, mainly for affiliate marketers. I'm looking to expand and get some work in the adult field since I feel like it's similar to what I'm used to. Does anyone have any advice in terms of how I should go about getting work? I know this is a different world and I'm new, so I'm open to any advice.

02-08-2012, 11:45 AM	#2
gimme-website Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 1,588	Your in the right place to find work. There's plenty to go round for all levels dispite the doom and gloom you here from people here. How to get your first gigs.. The early bird catches the worm so they say, be ready like a hawk to jump in any job posts you like. When i started I would get gigs simply by being the first to jump on a thread and someones ICQ. You need to find someone to give you a break.. then you can prove yourself in both design skills and reliability ect and expand your folio. That will happen if your keen enough. What are your expectations though? What do you think a good adult designer makes $$$?? __________________ www.gimme-website.com

02-08-2012, 11:58 AM	#3
Wilsy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,865	Some more advice is to put some contact info and details about what you offer in you sig so people know how to get hold of you and what you do.. __________________ Affiliate Manager

02-08-2012, 12:03 PM	#4
gimme-website Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 1,588	...and to come back and chew the shit with us for 10 mins to get your post count up __________________ www.gimme-website.com

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Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	portfolio + signature + some magic = success __________________ SilverCrocodile.com Adult web design since '05

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Milfer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,149	be careful though, you are likely to jerk more often in adult

02-08-2012, 01:13 PM	#7
LandingPower Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 49	lots of good info here, I don't have a sig yet cause I'm trying to get my post count up and I don't wanna look like some prick that's spamming. like I said I'm used to doing stuff for affiliate marketers but it does seem like there's a lot of work to go around. I'm not really sure what the common rates are. lately I've been seeing that a lot of people in the affiliate marketing world expect good designs for Indian wages which just can't happen. does anyone have any input on this? thanks again for the help so far, greatly appreciated.

02-08-2012, 01:19 PM	#8
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,575	For small projects, demand 50% down payment, and the rest on completion. For larger projects, demand 33% + 33% after a milestone is reached and the final 33% upon completion. Charge per hour and avoid quoting flat rate. Too often people come up with new ideas half way through a project that ads hours or days to a project. If you must stick to flat rate, make sure the project is carefully detailed in an email and agreed to first, noting that any changes cost extra. ------------- We had a client once made up of 2 partners. They both knew what they wanted color wise but could not agree on anything else. One had a wide-screen 2560x1440 monitor while the other had an old 800x600 monitor. Both complained constantly to us and to each other about how it should look, with neither one of them willing to understand that their monitors were so different. It was a sickening experience, especially because we were suckered into a flat-rate job. NEVER again. __________________ Custom Software \| Server Management \| Integration and Technology Solutions https://www.2much.net

02-08-2012, 02:13 PM	#12
v4 media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 2,934	When I started I did some free work. Few Banners, few galleries. Just to get a small portfolio together, then went from there.

02-08-2012, 03:14 PM	#13
LandingPower Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 49	is it worthless that i have a non-adult portfolio? do you guys feel that adult design is much more different where i'd need to have items before I can try to get work?

02-08-2012, 03:24 PM	#14
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Find a way to compete with the other designers. Everyone is going to argue about who is better. Point out the reasons why your design services could be better than someone else. Think about factors like lower price, higher quality, faster service and better customer support. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]